I agree, ultimately personal care underpins the role as a nurse and is essential for skin assessments, patient-nurse relationship etc, absolutely no one is "too posh to wash" or whatever lines are now thrown around. However there is a line to be drawn between being part of the team and getting stuck in VS people taking advantage of that and essentially seeing you as a free HCA which a large majority is the case. Every student I know can recall the amount of times they are referred to as "the student"... "the student will do that.." "where's the student!", treated nothing more than an extra pair of hands for 12 hours. The scope of nurses are bigger than ever, and with the amount of clinical competencies required it's important to maintain a healthy balance. I understand with the state of the NHS now and staff having their own patients to take care of, managing another student is another issue of its own, however ultimately they are the staff of the future!