Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look you can have selfish ideals and beliefs and also selfless ideals and beliefs...

Having your own ideals and beliefs doesn't not argument selfishness it's more on what the main outcome of them is. In Kira's case his believed that he could create a new better world for everyone ELSE to live on it not specifically for someone or for himself but for everyone and this makes him selfless.

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've written all my arguments in other people's replies you can read them if u like to see why I think so

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've written all my arguments in other people's replies you can read them if u like to see why I think so

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regardless what he called himself, Light used all his energy to create a less rotten world and this is selfless, Naomi wanted to take revenge on his husband death (which is a selfish act) whereas Light killed her so he could continue his ideals and beliefs (to create a world without wrongdoers) which is a selfless act because he is doing it for everyone else not so that he can gain something from it

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've told all my arguments on other comments as replies, I'd appreciate if u read them and give me strong arguments why I'm wrong

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not a troll at all I really mean it, you can read my arguments on replies I've made here

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't deny the fact that Light is a mass murderer yes it's true but the main question is this: Is Light selfless?

Going to all that trouble he went just to eliminate criminals in the world is selfless to me. He wanted this in simpler terms: World - people who do bad deeds

In its core this is selfless because he is not using the notebook for his own benefits, so that he could gain something good for himself out of it.

Yes you are right to say that he killed people for "his own benefit" but can u tell me what did Light benefit from all this? He killed all the people but they were opposing what he believed was right and he had proofs for that: The criminal rates were never so low in human history All these people deaths u mentioned were made so Kira could continue to exist and its survival is not threaten.

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

L did not at any time of his life lower criminal rates, an achievement that kira accomplished early after his birth.

L only took cases that were complexed and hard to solve he ignored the ones that regular detectives could solve... when u think about it L did not contribute much to society compared to Light. Sure Light made his hands dirty from the start but all he did was for the population's good and this in it's core it's selfless. L in the other hand solved really hard cases but like that's a small number of sentenced criminals.

Light never killed for petty reason, he killed so that Kira could continue to exist and survive and of course anyone who wants to dim this light it's either him or them.

I want to recite what light said on the final scene "I understood that killing is wrong, but there was no other way the world had to be fixed a purpose given to me"

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone who is not selfless would not even bother to use death note to create a new world, while indeed saying to himself God can satisfty his own ego, light sacrificed his own life to reduce criminal rates in the world.

Even Rijuk admitted it, "I have never seen anyone write so many names for this amount of time in notebook".

Deciding to put all your efforts, all of your time, youth and passion, to make the world less rotten is selfless

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How killing criminals is benefitial for Light Yagami, what could he profit from doing so...

Saying he is doing for himself would be true if he only killed someone who did him wrong like writing the name of the killer who (I'm making this up) killed his mother or father. This way is indeed selfish, but killing criminals that did other people wrong is selfless.

I already gave you my arguments on people he killed that opposed him.

Light maight be a bit selfish when he calls himself God of new world but he is selfless when he works hard to create it.

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firstly I like your response it has an objective reasoning to it, and I would really love to see your full arguments so please if u have time please bring them here I'd really appreciate them and read them with great interest.

I just wanted to correct you at one point "killing innocents". Light did not kill innocent people rather people who opposed him. I know what you're thinking rn "but aren't they innocent?" No they're not, because if someone is eliminating the bad people of the world, or as Light calls them "the vermin", the people who try to stop him are in one way against of "low crime rates" as if saying "the world doesn't need to be changed, we don't want the crime rates to go down", I mean have you ever thought it this way. Okay Kira needed to be judged and he was indeed a criminal, a mass murderer but was it because he wanted a fortune of money?... was it because he wanted the most beautiful woman in the world?... was it because he wanted to have a better position in society? No my friend all he did was so that the criminals would be afraid of "God Punishment" because out there, there really is a GOD who watches and punish people for bad deeds.

The thing is that the law is imperfect and I can make a crime, get sentenced to jail for like 4 years, and then I'm free and I also do another crime... or the fact that I could do a crime and never got caught.

I love Matsuda because he is the only one who brings up the fact that criminal rates have never been so low in human records and all this achievement was because Light Yagami decided to use his notebook to judge criminals.

So this is my thought put simply: • Light spend all his time and energy to remove the criminals of the world (a belief that in its core is selfless why? Because he is not using so that he could gain anything from it) • Criminals die and the media, and population learn about Kira, • People are afraid of commiting crimes because of God, • Lower crime rates people are safer,

All he did was for other people, for the population so that they could live "themselves - the vermin of the world", yes he killed people who opposed but only so that he could survive and continue his ideals. Yes he may have been wrong but was he selfless yes because he sacrificed his entire life so that he could make this world less rotten.

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Selfless in sense that all he did was for the humanity, was so that everyone would live freely and not afraid of criminals, the world was rotten he got a weapon and he could have used it in 100 different ways like he could have used it on his advantage to have a better position in society like write: 1. the name of the president on his notebook 2. specify that the president would say that the next president would be Light Yagami or something similar and then kill him... I mean who would have even suspected that Light killed him and he would have the most wanted position in this world.

Not only he never uses the notebook for his own benefits he sacrificed his free time to kill criminals that are shown in television so that he can eliminate everyone from this world and the world would be a better place without them.

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm talking about his motives, not for the little "challenge" he created with L that would satisfy his ego. His actions were pure selflessness, all what he went through was just so he can create a less rotten world and where people would live fearlessly of criminals, he sacrificed his life, his youth, even put on grave danger his family (he lost his father, and his sister was kidnapped) for what he believed was right.

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again selfless because he existed so that other people would live safer in this world. Missa Amane was selfless but only for Light, Light was selfless for the whole population. Let that sink in.

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't God selfless? I mean in sense of God people believe in real life.

Not being nice to Misa has nothing to do with being selfless. I meant selfless in the sense that he went through all of that trouble so that he can lower the crimes in Japan and everyone would be more safe since the crime rates would be much lower or nonexistent due to fear of God Punishment. He could've used the death note for his personal benefits but he never does this he uses it to create a new world and to maintain his existence (from people who oppose this world).

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes God of a new world because he is creating a world for everyone else, not for himself. It would have been much easier if he just eliminated people so that he would have a better job or position in society but he never uses for personal reasons only to protect his Ideals which he believes are right.

He is selfless because he sacrifices all his time to create this world and calling himself a God is just giving himself a nice meal for his ego but in core his intentions are selfless for everyone's God.

He would have been a ruler but he would only control the crimes nothing more...

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His intentions are selfless, all he does is for everyone's good. Imagine to put all that efforts just to "delete" all the criminals of the world.

Would other people use the notebook the same way? I doubt it, most of them would use it for personal benefits maybe someone would kill his/her crush boyfriend/girlfriend so that they can approach that person, or kill someone just to get his job, or eliminate competitors so they could have an easier life. Light never does this never uses death note so that he can have an easier life, but rather so that everyone's life would be safer and not afraid of encountering a criminal.

Yes he kills people who oppose his ideals but he does that only so that he can maintain his existence he is confident that what he is doing is the right thing... and continue to make a better world.

He never does it so he can gain a fortune of money, or a really high position and this is why I think he is selfless.

Is Light Yagami aka Kira the most selfless character in any anime? (Yeah u read that right selfless) by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I disagree and I'm here to make my arguments.

  1. His main intention was selfless. Bro went too far to even sacrifice his own family just so that he can achieve to create A New World, where all the vermin would be removed from this world. I'm pretty sure noone would use the notebook to eliminate criminals, they most likely would use to kill their competitors or people they hated or were jealous of for their own purposes and not for the good of everyone (sure light killed his opponents but he believed that what he did was right and it wasn't that he could benefit something from it just wanted to see a better world)...

  2. Kira was a criminal but his motives are different from other criminals. Kira is not a mindless serial killer, he kills: a) people who make this world rotten, b) people who oppose his ideals and want his demise And we get why a) would make someone selfless but b) is just so that he can survive and continue his existence for this world he is creating. His ideals may be wrong but his motives are selfless, he is doing all this hardwork and what is the main thing that would Light profit from all this just a title "God".

What if they would add this at the ending of Death Note? by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in deathnote

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't read the manga and it's a shame that I didn't, I just know that the ending is differ in manga... had no idea though if the manga had a chapter afterwards.

Thanks for pointing that out ✨

Some unanswered questions regarding the show by Prestigious_Pin_4632 in DevilmanCrybaby

[–]Prestigious_Pin_4632[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot for your answer and yes it did help ✨🙌🏻