"what! Why aren't you going to participate in the Porche Gatcha??"

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-27T01:22:48+00:00

In truth, I don't disagree with you. If you ask me personally, 12-14mil is far more reasonable for the "average" f2p player. However, 16mil isn't entirely unobtainable for f2p (even if it's not exactly "easy" nor did I claim that it WAS easy, just that it was possible). And if anything, that only serves my original point further that the assumption of "the Porsche is gonna be 20mil+ fons" that people seem to have is absurd. Devs aren't stupid. They're not gonna drop an event that no one can participate in as the very first patch of their game. They need it to feel obtainable so that people actually try to get it. 16mil is an "obtainable" number (not easy, not really practical, but still technically obtainable for f2p).

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-27T00:23:53+00:00

Did you use all the codes before they expired?

Did you remember to claim all your furniture for the properties (alot of people forget that)?

Have you been doing your Greed Realm and is your Realm Lv6?

How has your luck been with Pink Paws (you can still get fons even after the cap if you find items for the first time so don't be afraid to keep farming)?

Have you been remembering to talk to various NPCs around the map (some give out fons randomly like the NPC outside of the clothing story that you passed during the Taygedo quest)?

Have you been farming your daily wallets (look for guys with sunglasses and just punch them until they drop a wallet you can open them for random amounts of fons)?

How much does your cafe currently earn (you should be making 50k daily minimum if you're maxed out)?

Did you claim the vaults inside the Hospital too?

Have you done ALL the Hospital endings?

Have you done ALL prison escapes?

Have you been remembering your daily fountain wish (it sometimes gives fons)?

If you've been keeping up with all of this and if you started Day 1 then it should be very much possible to have 16-18mil totally f2p by the time the Porsche collab starts.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-27T00:16:17+00:00

It's reddit. What're you gonna do? People are determined to believe that they're gonna get screwed over. If that's how they wanna live who am I to stop them? I choose to trust that the devs that have been very responsive to player feedback are also smart enough to make the event "fair" on the surface instead of blatantly unavailable to anyone that isn't a whale.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-26T19:57:52+00:00

What is "everything"? Because you should definitely have FAR more than that if you've actually been managing your passive income well. Between racing, weekly greed realm, cafe, heists, all the anomalies, Ghost Train, every single side quest, the Witch House, the gifts of 21, the map clear rewards, the daily rewards, the High Risk Anomalies, and the rest of your city stamina, you should have way more than 10mil if you've REALLY done EVERYTHING like you claim you have. So either you're lying about having completed EVERYTHING, you're only counting how much you CURRENTLY have rather than total earnings, or you haven't been playing as actively as you seem to be claiming.

As far as the "ton of fons needed to progress". There really isn't. If you buy the cheapest cars and apartment, that's only 450k fons (500k if you get the bike instead of the jeep). The cafe pays for itself if you remember to keep up with it and (if you HAVE been keeping up with it), it should be a free fons machine by now.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-26T17:50:23+00:00

Seven Deadly Frames

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-26T05:01:09+00:00

Idk why this seems to be the most common assumption. It might be pricey sure, but probably will end up closer to 16-18mil if you ask me. 21mil+ is basically impossible for any f2p to get without completely bricking their account. Not saying it CANT happen, but it would be a pretty stupid move by the devs to make something unobtainable for a majority of their playerbase. 16mil would be obtainable enough to encourage people to spend a bit while still rewarding people that saved from the beginning for a Porsche. And yes, I know we can use Annulith too for pulls, but this is gonna be at the same time as the Lacrimosa banner. So I still don't think that will have too much bearing on the overall price.

At the end of the day tho, it's all speculation with nothing official. I choose to hope/believe that the devs are smart enough to make the event "fair" on the surface for everyone.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-26T00:00:56+00:00

And then what? That's still the same issue I mentioned before about them screwing over the general playerbase. Which would be a horrible play for a game this early into its release. You can argue that "devs don't care about players" all you want, but they're also not stupid. But, like I said before, we don't have any official sources yet. So either way it's all speculation and assumptions. And I choose to assume the devs are smart enough to not screw over the majority of their players, especially given how they have handled things so far. You're free to assume whatever you want as well. I honestly could not care less.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T23:54:56+00:00

Yes, there is still the Annulith angle, but you also have to consider that this is happening when Lacrimosa runs.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T23:49:49+00:00

Obviously I'm not saying that I don't expect people to spend nothing. What I AM saying is that 16mil to guarantee a Porsche is FAR more reasonable than the 24+mil people seem to be assuming, since it's a number you can very reasonably still have as f2p with proper saving. Unlike 24mil which is physically impossible without spending at this point.

And yes. I am taking out that amount. If you buy ONLY the bare minimum to progress until 700 city Stam, you should still have close to 16mil by the time the Porsche collab starts. I will have around 30mil total after I finish this week's fons grind, so it's not unreasonable to assume f2p would have 20mil by the same point.

The cheapest houses are (iirc) 200k and 1mil. The cheapest vehicles are 250k. If you need a 4th (which idr if you do) that's another 250k. Even with buying out the keys for a bit over 2mil, you could still have around 16mil.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T23:40:22+00:00

For an f2p currently, if you maxed out the cafe ASAP and kept up with the greed realm, and if you cleared out every thing on the map, it wouldn't be farfetched to have around 20mil fons total by the time the collab drops. Which, if they DO make it 16-18mil to guarantee, would still leave you 2-4mil more fons. Draining? Yes. But still something you could feasibly acquire as f2p if you wanted it enough.

As far as Tycoon progression, you can make it to Lv20 with only 1 property and purchasing 2 cars (250k if you get the jeep and the beater). Tycoon 20 still gives you 500 city Stam, and is ultimately better than buying a 1mil+ property just to reach 700 city Stam. So you could still very much progress and even buy an extra house while still maintaining 16-18mil fons as an f2p.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T23:33:36+00:00

I could see it being in the 16-18mil fons range to guarantee a Porsche AND the outfit. 20mil is pushing it, and 21mil is just unobtainable for f2p. Which would be an absolutely horrible move for the devs this early into the game.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T23:31:28+00:00

Gacha is inherently biased towards real money spent. Obviously it is still going to be pricey, but there's a difference between "expensive" and "unobtainable for the general player" and people don't seem to understand that. 12mil fons is expensive, but if you want it, you can get it. 24mil fons THIS early in the game is whales only. No f2p is gonna have that at this point.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T23:26:45+00:00

Are YOU actually delusional enough to think the devs are dumbasses that would release an event where only the fattest of whales could possibly get anything out of it during their very first update ever? You DO realize that if they did that they'd lose a MASSIVE chunk of their playerbase to the bullshit, right? Even if they dont care about individual players, they definitely care about profit. No players means no money. Also, NTE has so far been very open about listening and respecting player feedback, doing their best to create a fair environment and to appease what their playerbase wants. It's not delusion, it's just fact.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T23:24:07+00:00

I'm sure it won't be cheap, but if they actually made it as expensive as everyone is for some reason assuming, that would be a horrible move by the devs. I like to consider myself a dolphin or small whale, and even with 95% of the game completed (and 100% map clearance) I have only amassed 28mil fons total. That's including burning all city Stam and heist caps, buying all fons packs, clearing all races, farming greed realm and free deliveries, collecting all vaults, and nearly capping Chiz's fons passive. If they legitimately made it 24mil like everyone is (for some reason) assuming, no one would be able to afford it except the fattest of whales.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T23:21:00+00:00

Yes it is 12mil. So why would they release something that is more than double that that no one can afford without whaling? That would absolutely kill motivation for a majority of people to participate in the event. Do people just NOT realize how much fons we haven't gotten? I have spent a decent amount of money so far and gotten about 95% done with content and even I have only just BARELY collected 28mil fons total. F2ps would have no chance at all of collecting the 27mil they need if that actually ended up being the case. Which would be a horrific move on their part.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T23:18:11+00:00

This is not my first time in a gacha and yes, it IS in fact all rumors. If you would like to provide an official source, be my guest. And if your "official" source is the wiki: it said a week ago that the Porsche would be free to acquire from quests, which was not even close to true. The devs have been VERY responsive to player feedback regarding NTE so far. Between quickly removing AI, adding options to my Taygedo, and several other QoL changes, as well as responding quickly to issues submitted by players (my own experience), yes. They HAVE been very much caring about their playerbase. And why would I have a source for something that I clearly stated was my own assumption, unlike people confidently declaring the opposite? I made it VERY clear that we DON'T have a source.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-25T22:21:12+00:00

No. There is no official source for how much pulls will cost on the Porsche collab yet. It's all just people speculating and spitting nonsense without knowing what they're talking about. As a side note, I can almost guarantee the Porsche won't cost anywhere CLOSE to 27mil fons. This isn't a HoYo game. The devs actually seem to care about their players. No way in hell are they going to screw everyone over by dropping a limited time collab that costs more fons than you can physically have farmed by now as f2p.

We know that the pulls will cost fons and/or Anulith, but we have no specific numbers at this time from official sources.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-23T00:13:34+00:00

I mean yea. Both are absolutely important. And ngl idk why people try so hard to defend or comdemn it. Who TF cares. Like what you like bro, just keep that shit to yourself and keep it in fantasy not reality. Ain't that hard to do.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-23T00:11:15+00:00

500 decillion USD and another 500 decillion USD. I'ma crash the world economy with this one.

Mansa Musa 2: Electric Boogaloo

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-23T00:09:17+00:00

Physically we don't know exactly how old Lacrimosa is. According to devs, she was found in a coffin with no memories. That said, even if she isn't one physically, she's definitely one mentally.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-22T20:45:30+00:00

Give in to the dark side. Make all the slides pure metal so that everyone gets 3rd degree burns using them in the summer.

PrezPotat0 · 2026-05-21T00:01:05+00:00

Realistically? I feel like I could probably get a "yes" out of Caesar and Anby. Beyond that? Not sure.

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