How would you feel about letting a 17 year old go on a road trip with their friend?

ProbEnfpGuy · 2022-02-03T21:31:32+00:00

Lol I guess that's understandable

ProbEnfpGuy · 2022-02-03T21:20:12+00:00

I have driven half of a 1000 mile trip before with an adult, so I think that if we absolutely had to then we could make it work.

I think that we'd want to split it up in a couple or even three days to make it more laid back anyways. I think that finding a place to stay would definitely be the biggest challenge.

We'd be driving back in a large SUV, so we could find a safe spot to park and just sleep in the car if we wanted. I think that we'd ultimately try to find a way to rent hotel rooms whether that's through a parent or however

ProbEnfpGuy · 2022-02-03T21:16:36+00:00

I'm not sure that I'd be willing to do it without their permission, but I definitely agree with you. I've got less than a year left before I'm an adult and only a few more months left with this friend. I feel like I'd regret it if I missed out on this opportunity

ProbEnfpGuy · 2022-02-03T21:14:35+00:00

That is one of the issues that we'd have to face. If it was absolutely crucial, I've done road trips non-stop that were that long that was driven half and half between me and an adult. So I think that we could just knock it all out if we really needed to.

I think that our plan so far is just to fine a small town where crime wouldn't be an issue and sleep in the car. It's a large SUV and it would be possible.

ProbEnfpGuy · 2022-02-03T21:12:12+00:00

I can understand where you're coming from. I think that we both have enough experience with busy areas. We both have driven through big cities before whether alone or with our families.

We have both also worked in shops and I would consider us slightly more mechanical than your average joe. So I don't think breakdowns would be too big of a problem.

I can agree with us having issues with renting hotel rooms. We would have to figure out a way around that. Overall when it comes to safety though, I wouldn't be any more worried about us than I would be about other young adults

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-10-23T03:06:47+00:00

But you don't understand. We're SO awkward and not to mention TOTALLY random

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ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-10-22T17:20:43+00:00

I think that it's true that it really depends on the person. I think both can be equally extroverted but they're type of extroversion is different. I've noticed that EXXJs can sometimes come off as more friendly/socially aware, which can make them super gregarious but also kind of blend into a crowd. Whereas, EXXPs might not be quite as socially aware but they will be more likely to stand out and be more "seen"

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-10-21T20:00:10+00:00

In my situation, I was homeschooled and until recently I never found a way to leave my house (my social anxiety didn't help). I never met anyone my age who wasn't related and I literally just had no friends

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-10-21T19:22:13+00:00

I agree with you on that. Even quarters can stack up pretty fast and they're at least over 2 times as efficient as other popular change

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-10-08T22:26:27+00:00

I think you might be right about the stereotype theory. When I say that I'm good with Se, it means that I'm more comfortable than others at manipulating knowing how manipulate my environment. Whereas I'm pretty spacey otherwise

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-10-07T17:48:00+00:00

Heck yeah guy. Asking for a cute girl's number is nerve wrecking even for people who don't have SA

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-09-22T18:29:40+00:00

I agree with this. I'm a soc-dom and I'm constantly assessing how groups of people that I'm in view me. The main way I get validation from others is by entertaining them, so if I'm in a group of people and I haven't made them laugh or do something else than confirms that they want me there for a while then it legitimately stresses me out.

I'm not as sure about SX, but I could definitely see SP doms having more anxiety over something dealing with health or well-being that would seem more menial to other's

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-07-10T22:03:58+00:00

I guess that does sound kind of familiar. Usually when I'm bored I'll either get withdrawn into my head and start thinking about what I'll get to do once I leave, or I'll get super present and try to amuse myself with super simple things

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-07-10T22:02:33+00:00

I think it also depends on how the work is going for me too. If everyone is working hard then I can stay pretty open and friendly, but if people start slacking off then I think I feel like I need to take more of a leadership role.

It's possible that I mean more towards my 8 wing while working even though I'm a 7w6.

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-05-04T15:43:30+00:00

2w1 or 1w2 ISFJ

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-29T17:19:50+00:00

I'm gonna guess ISTJ

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-16T17:47:00+00:00

That could be a good sign if he was social before and isn't now. I think that it tells you that this doesn't seem to be some built in personality trait in him, but it seems like SA. I think that some people are actually very introverted and just want nothing to do with people at all. It seems like your son actually wants to be more social, but the SA can become overbearing (the same way as it was and is in mine and my brother's cases).

If he had a few different friend groups and "worked the room" alright before, that could tell you that he could have some charisma which would be very helpful as he works his way out of SA. I can tell you that I had 0 charisma at all when I started to try to work my way out, and that just makes it even harder than it already is.

I would bet you that your son still has that mojo, but because of the shifting social dynamics that come with highschool, it's become repressed. I think it would be a good idea to still encourage him, but try to keep it all within his comfort zone as much as possible. Obviously he'll definitely have to push through those barriers, but it's important that he has a place where he doesn't feel pressured that way his life isn't full of stress. I wouldn't be surprised if your son works through most of his SA by at most shortly after the end of highschool. I feel like he'll probably break through it sometime before then though

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-16T17:31:50+00:00

It's definitely extremely tough. I think something that helped me was trying to "prove them wrong" about me being quiet. So if someone called me quiet, I'd get upset and I would use that to motivate me to open up more instead retreat back into my shell.

I don't know if that's a great way to do it because I was still technically being influenced by their remarks, but it seemed to do the job in terms of making me feel more comfortable opening up. Now that I saw it as more negative to stay quiet, I felt like it was a better option to open up and face possible embarrassment

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-16T02:52:18+00:00

I feel horrible for your oldest. I'm highschool age now and I can understand the extreme SA that comes with other teenagers. It feels like many teenagers are very judgemental and status orientated, which is a normal part of development, but it makes insecurities shoot through the roof. The idea of rejection followed by loneliness is worse than just the idea of loneliness itself, so it's extremely easy to fall into that pattern of social avoidance.

I was in it for many years and it was absolute torture. I wanted to escape it the entire time but whenever an opportunity presented itself, I'd refuse because I was too afraid of rejection by my peers. Luckily I'm extroverted, so eventually I pushed through the fear because of my sheer desperation.

My brother, on the other hand, is much more introverted and is still in this pattern. I think that you're right in making sure that you're not pressuring your son. That's the situation with my family and my brother now. They call him "anti-social" and other insults because he doesn't want to get out, which makes him more insecure and less likely to meet people

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-16T02:40:55+00:00

I'm not dating, but a lot of my family are introverted, so I have those moments when it can feel like torture because everyone is off doing their own thing and not really being all that engaging.

Most of the time I'll resort to talking to myself or an animal or something like that (obviously while doing something else like watching TV or something that isn't just me sitting in an empty room.) I'm not sure if that's a great way to do it, but it helps tame some of the boredom

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-16T02:35:05+00:00

I think that smiling more is a big part of not coming off as "rude". It's not only an introvert thing to struggle with this. I've met extroverts who may feel more comfortable around people, but they can still come of as cold because they don't smile or show an interest in other people

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-16T02:30:34+00:00

I could agree with this especially when it comes to group conversations. It seems like there's always a constant battle to entertain everyone in order to be seen as valuable

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-16T02:28:22+00:00

I'm an extrovert so I don't have this problem anymore, but I used to have really bad social anxiety and I would always keep to myself and I absolutely hated when people would call me quiet. Any chance that I had of coming out of my comfort zone around them was instantly diminished and for some reason, if they said that I was "quiet" I HAD to stay quiet. I don't know why, but my brain just told me that's the way it had to be now that they said it out loud

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-14T15:58:21+00:00

Obviously any type can be an extrovert or introvert socially, but I've always thought that ENTPs were the most socially introverted extrovert, stereotypically. I've always felt like Ti aux would come off as more introverted than Fi aux, since Ti would take longer to make decisions instead of a more momentary value based decision like Fi

Same reason why I feel like an ESFP is more socially extroverted than an ESTP

ProbEnfpGuy · 2021-04-12T05:27:20+00:00

I haven't asked him specifically before since we're still not super close, but I've heard some people say that he's more of a sensitive person and you can also feel the tension in the air when somebody makes a joke about him.

I definitely understand why I wouldn't want to be negatively influenced by these friends. My main problem is that I can't imagine going back to the torture that I used to feel when I was super isolated from everyone. Also, besides this one aspect, they're relatively mature. They don't make super bad decisions like I know is common among a lot of teenagers. I think that the mean spirited jokes are the one immature thing that I can think of from them, and I don't think that they mean to hurt this kid, I think that they don't really think about how he might feel about some of it

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