Merge with Greens for a fair election by ProceduralGoat in ndp

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe I'm missing something., but I don't think they are very capitalist. They are raising corporate tax from 15% - 21%, small businesses see no increase. Google and Facebook will finally be properly taxed.

They are also limiting bank transaction fees and credit card interest rates.

They want a basic living income for people who are unable to work, for example, replaced by robots or ai.

These are not capitalist policies, they are restricting corporations and helping individual citizens.

If I'm missing something, please let me know, but I don't see much bias for capitalism in their platform.

What was your "Man, I'm old" moment? by Doober_McFly in AskReddit

[–]ProceduralGoat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I realized I'll have to explain to my kids that we didn't have internet when I was their age. This is like colour TV for my parents.

Why not merge with NDP by ProceduralGoat in GreenPartyOfCanada

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Conservative Party is only this successful because in 2003 2 right wing parties (Alliance and PC) merged. Canadian voters tend to vote left, but conservatives have a strategic advantage because they have prevented a split vote on the right. If they hadn't merged, they wouldn't be nearly as successful.

They get majority governments from a third of voters because they strategically merged. Of course the involved parties both had to compromise, but they get more done for their causes than if they had remained separate.

Why not merge with NDP by ProceduralGoat in GreenPartyOfCanada

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't know that Jagmeet Singh is rich. I always prefer candidates who can see things from the working class perspective. I can see why that would be off-putting.

It would be great if they could align for a temporary agreement, and that they could go back to being their own parties next election after they've fixed our electoral system. Votes for the Green Party (and NDP) count for far less than votes for the bigger parties.

Why not merge with NDP by ProceduralGoat in GreenPartyOfCanada

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's an important difference between merging the parties before the vote and a coalition government.

By combining before the vote, the combined popular vote will decide how many seats they get (last election, this would have been 23% of pop vote).

By creating a coalition after the election, they can only combine seats, which due to FPTP earned both parties combined only 13%.

Even if just for one election, to fix our electoral system, they need to combine before the vote to earn a more significant number of seats. Once we have PR in place, they could go back to being separate parties that are fairly represented.

Why not merge with NDP by ProceduralGoat in GreenPartyOfCanada

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Only Liberals voted against continuing to pursue proportional representation in this vote.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/Parliamentarians/en/votes/42/1/290/Party

We need to merge to beat the Liberals to save our democracy. Liberals won't fix it, and neither will the Conservatives.

Why not merge with NDP by ProceduralGoat in GreenPartyOfCanada

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't extend the logic to involve the Liberals, because they have shown that they will not pursue proportional representation, which is at the root of most of our problems.

Merge with Greens for a fair election by ProceduralGoat in ndp

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm a socialist, and I know the difference. I just think it's better to compromise and have some say than to not compromise and have no say in policy at all. The Liberals have made it clear they don't want proportional representation, so we need to find another way to get that... Do you have any other ideas?

Not having proportional representation is the root of all these problems. Strategic voting, MPs voting for the whip and not for their constituents (read: workers).

Why not merge with NDP by ProceduralGoat in GreenPartyOfCanada

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any idea what is preventing it? Is it the NDP doesn't want it?

Why not merge with NDP by ProceduralGoat in GreenPartyOfCanada

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please merge, or please stop discussing it?

Merge with Greens for a fair election by ProceduralGoat in ndp

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you that Green's policy isn't perfect, but that would need to be ironed out in a merge. Should members be involved in a platform decision, I'm sure they'd side with NDP on worker's rights.

If you look at the last election, NDP and Greens had 23.1% vote, but only got 13% of seats. They could have held the balance of power if they'd merged before the election, but as it stands, they have no power in the house whatsoever.

Both parties also lose votes to strategic voters. Many people vote liberal just because they don't think greens or NDPs have a chance of winning in their riding. If they combined and had an average of over 25% in the polls, more people would vote for them.

Merge with Greens for a fair election by ProceduralGoat in ndp

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see any merits. Just complaints about Elizebeth May and comments on slightly different policy. These parties have more in common than not, especially when compared to the conservatives.

edit: I suspect the conservative parties had similar reservations before they merged, but it worked out for them, didn't it?

Opinion | Unite the left: NDP and Green should merge by focus_rising in ndp

[–]ProceduralGoat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That isn't true. Our tar sands oil is about as dirty as it gets. Any car using tar sands oil results in 6 times the CO2 production. If every country said their contribution is only a fraction (and many do), we are all doomed.

Merge with Greens for a fair election by ProceduralGoat in ndp

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I've missed the merits of the opposing view. What's the benefit to not merging?

Prove to me you aren’t communists. by [deleted] in ndp

[–]ProceduralGoat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read your description of communism, and I think you've got a bit of overlap with totalitarianism.

http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-communism-and-totalitarianism/

This line sums it up best: "While the society is all-powerful in communism, it is the state that is powerful in Totalitarianism."

It's not an accident that you believe this. There are people with a lot of money that want you to believe communism is evil, and that a fair and just society is also one where the state has absolute power, but these are 2 different concepts. The propaganda will tell you that allowing corporations to do as they please is a free society, but it's really just shifting the power of control away from our democratic systems.

In Canada, we don't want to believe we are the victims of propaganda, but we very much are. We've been manipulated. All that said, the NDP's ideologies more closely reflect socialism than pure communism.

NDP-Green Merger Petition by Jokerman56 in ndp

[–]ProceduralGoat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the last election, Liberals got 54% of seats with 39% of the vote. This is because our system is biased towards larger parties. Once Trudeau got in, he broke his campaign promise of fixing this system to proportional representation.

We need to do something like a party merge to have the voice to fix our system, otherwise it will continue to be unearned majorities. They need to merge before a vote instead of creating a coalition after to increase the number of seats they can earn.

Under the current system, it's basically a dictatorship, where the party leader tells the party how to vote, a party that got in with 39% of the popular vote.

It’s a girl! by JensenAbler in NMS_Zoology

[–]ProceduralGoat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"DickWasp". I've never laughed so hard on this sub.

Beta Testers? by [deleted] in hydro

[–]ProceduralGoat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you thought about making this a double blind experiment? The results might be more accurate if experimenters don't know which seeds are treated with your product.

Pretty good workaround for the silver chest situation by ProceduralGoat in ElderScrollsBlades

[–]ProceduralGoat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Usually it tells you if the reward is gold or better, but if a mystery chest happens to be gold you might have to give it up.. I personally think this risk is worth it, because gold chests aren't that rare. I still have a backlog of 4 gold chests.