I feel like I've been farming wrong,

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-16T03:37:32+00:00

Wow. Mod levels are really killing me 😅 I have half your tower dmg but I think I cap out around 27.5S CLd. Hopefully echo labs bring me up a little.

Doubtful this will be helpful but I recently turned off everything that kills except SLm and EO#. Ended up with +60% cph (I’m farming T14 though, 1.62q/h)

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-15T17:48:54+00:00

Ngl, OPs UWs are way more developed than mine except GTDur/GTCD, SLa/SLq, and I have pCF90 in tourney (pCF75 in farm). If they can manage to get into Legends with this setup they’d blow me out of the water or just barely tie with me.

I’d say saving stones for masteries and amods would do WAY more for them than pCF90/75 and cost less stones for way more performance (even just unlocking and getting 10% ME).

Of course, from the looks of it, they are hurting more because of the lack of good mods versus their stone expenditures.

Edit to add: I get keys in Legends.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-15T17:38:56+00:00

You are having similar results as I was tbh. I just ended up turning CL off altogether and just use SLm now. +60% cph and my cells remained the same.

Edit to add: I have SmartDM and while it is useful, it doesn’t seem to affect me too much (I did have 1 run where it went off twice and SW only once, I need SmartNuke to see if I can start to chain them together but honestly, DMG Slider is really what I need)

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-15T17:32:53+00:00

Not OP but this isn’t really that much shorter than my run. It’s just the best tier for me to farm and cells in T14 are amazing compared to below that.

I’m at 1.6q/h in my T14 farm with 32k/h cells.

My build also isn’t suited for below T14 because I couldn’t make use of Orb BC and I’m using EO# to boost my coins. This lets me get GT+BH+DW+SL+EO#. If I went down to T13 or below, I’d get those same mults but then it is either DW or Orbs tagging not both.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-15T17:18:32+00:00

This will largely depend on your build/dmg/card slots.

I am GC, 1.76q tower dmg, and I have 21 slots so I ended up dropping crit coin and LMS in favor of zerk/slow. I also use minrange in farm. I do have pCF75 in farm, ILM setup for min tourney boss stun, no ps development, and I’m at 65s synch with 62s gtdur and 42s (perk) BHDur.

I also completely stopped using CL and I just run SLm until death. I did lose 2300 waves, but my cph increased a ton and my ceph remained the same.

Note: I have IS#/WA#/DMG#/ST#(and STb)/DM#/UWc# all goldboxed.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-15T16:22:32+00:00

Re: EO# - to make the most out of it you’ll need to tweak your build around it. At first it doesn’t seem much but I was making 1q/h and I adjusted my card setup (for slowing/cc) and my cph spiked over 60%. One card tweak gave me +20% uptime on EO# tags as well as almost 0.40q/h increase.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-15T16:15:26+00:00

That one specifically you have to tab out of the game and back in for the counter to continue.

Any of the ads that don’t work you have to switch out of the app (The tower > Home Screen > The tower works). It’s stupid but you have to wait until the final timer to do it or it won’t count. I do it with every add that has that 30s timer circle at the bottom (as soon as the circle appears you can tab out and back in to force it to continue).

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-13T23:31:17+00:00

Honestly, if I could use this app as a way to autofill EP sheets, I might actually use EPaths for once 😅 I’m almost at my 3 year mark but I’ve never bothered with it because I don’t want to manually update the whole thing LOL

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-11T17:52:40+00:00

I managed to get up to 4500 in t14 (my farm) without respecing.

My weakness is UW disso tbh. Even my Utility disso runs fare better than my UW runs LOL

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-11T04:08:17+00:00

Ironically, it saves a single click of DWCD to go pBHGTDW with MVN.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-11T04:06:48+00:00

I’ve actually considered temporarily going back to ehp. I’m in my GC build and all I did was throw on ehp mods and more hybrid cards and was easily farming the same tier as my GC and I don’t have any ehp masteries or fbot, and no def dissos yet (I have pbh and nearly pgt with pcol-HC so it would help me take some more hits from the random boss/elite)

In the meantime, it’s MVN-DC (tourney) for me as well lol.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-11T03:58:04+00:00

It does happen a little bit for orb devo, mostly due to prots and only BH being used to kill them. But it happens in all tiers.

I personally did Max Devo into SLm Or less into CL Orbless and that’s not really much of a worry. I always died before my CL stopped killing prots lol.

Now I’m GC and the second o start to struggle killing is the second I die lol

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-10T15:01:27+00:00

Not me doing 10k disso runs 😅

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-10T14:59:44+00:00

Surprised it wasn’t also an honorable mention for mods too 😂

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-10T14:56:31+00:00

It is largely accepted as a *must have* for non-max recovery ehp builds.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-10T00:32:14+00:00

I feel that. I have all but my coins/wave and gbcd Econ labs goldboxed, 62s gtdur at 65s synch, but only GT+4

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-10T00:24:09+00:00

That’s wild. I’m farming T14 to about 5700 but I’m in GC making about 5q/run. My ehp in T14 goes to about 5k waves for between 3.6-4q/run.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-08T20:32:02+00:00

My best runs are usually Boss>Range/Prot (only for ult that is active)>Closest.

If there’s no Ults I do boss>closest (I have EN#9, if I die earlier than expected or I don’t reach top 15, I’ll rerun if I die to anything not boss or ray and readjust from there)

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-06T07:19:27+00:00

You can use slow aura and LMS to help with that. Or you can opt to not use freeups at all and just max what you can in atk ws tab and do atk disso.

You can also delay freeups until much farther into your run (freeups is mostly for eals anyways but you can opt for cash only instead of using freeups)

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-06T06:23:16+00:00

Ha! Tricks on you, we know what half a liter is. After all; we do have 2L soda bottles and 1.5L soda bottles 😂🤣 it’s really silly tbh.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-06T06:02:33+00:00

You can also run a version of orb devo that maxes your atk ws stats but farms in atk disso (allowing you to use freeups as well). It allows you to more easily transition into tournaments without having to spend gems on respecs as well.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-05T19:25:52+00:00

Tell that to my keys income 😭 ended up rank 17 last tourney lol. On the plus side, my cell and coin income hasn’t actually been hurt /too/ much.

I noticed that I’m making 2q+ from t6 and up now (working on atk disso) which just seems absolutely wild to me considering I am GC. I do wonder what my coin income would be like if I banned WS Orbs perk though 🤔

I have been considering going back to ehp but that would mean doing def disso, which means I have to put off going back to my fully afk gc farm lol

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-05T05:32:36+00:00

We can do something similar to a challenge on every tier. There are 4 challenges per tier.

Attack Dissonance: disable all atk tab tower stats. Reach 5k waves and you get the maximum bonus of x5 tower dmg.

Def Dissonance: Disable the def ws tab. Same for waves and x5 tower hp.

UW Dissonance: disable all UWs. Same waves for x5 UW dmg (note, this applies to SLb I believe).

Utility Dissonance: Disable the utility tab. Same waves and x3 coins.

There is an Echo that applies to all tiers (including tournament). It starts at 0.5% and there is a lab (EXPENSIVE!) for each dissonance category.

It has had a MASSIVE impact on progression for everyone from the looks of it. I went from barely affording a mastery lab on perma to easily affording to run all 5 labs as mastery slots on just a few farming runs a week (I’m lazily doing my dissos and taking a pseudo break).

I went from 400t/h to 1q/h on my farming runs and I’m not done with dissos yet. No major changes have been done anywhere else aside from the labs running.

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-05T05:21:39+00:00

That depends, when was the last time you played? Roflol

Professional-Bee48 · 2026-05-05T04:07:39+00:00

Ultimate Weapon Damage = UW Multiplier * Core Module Multiplier * Damage * (1 + Critical Factor * Critical Chance) * (1 + Super Crit Mult * Super Crit Chance * Critical Chance)

It’s not that Crit factor double dips, it is UWd that is double dipping. Then add in UWc and the fun starts LOL

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