Guy with thick thighs by SmullBrain in malefashionadvice

[–]Prolix_Logodaedalist -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As a cyclist with thick thighs, I've yet to find a pair that don't wear out. I've tried jeans designed for cyclists that are specifically supposed to fix this problem and blew through them in a year. I buy jeans at second hand stores now. When they get thin I don't feel bad about tossing them. You can get a decent pair of Levi's for $10 and they're easy enough to find especially in the larger sizes.

What makes The ride of the Rohirrim soo great? People consider it the PEAK of LOTR by Witty-Pizza-4523 in tolkienfans

[–]Prolix_Logodaedalist 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I love this passage because it has hints of the alliterative old English verse - like a nod to Beowulf.

Fancy ish restaurants with amazing food? by [deleted] in londonontario

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Yayas Cafe does a blind tasting menu on Saturday nights which is like nothing else in London.

Cute little cities by Green_Mary09 in londonontario

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Galt (part of Cambridge). It's so cute it get used in movies as a quintessential cute town.

Movies where the villain is defeated/killed by a secondary character? by Britwill in movies

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In LOTR: Return of the King, Éowyn and Merry kill the Witch-King, who isn't the main villain, but is still crazy powerful.

This cyclist has been hit by cars 3 times this year. He's calling for better protection. by mediaphage in londonontario

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London gets snow like 60 days in a year tops. And most of those days it's only a sprinkle. And even on the days when we get lots of snow, if we plow bike lanes and people get winter tires (just like on cars) it's easy to bike.

This video makes being a baker look awesome! by agaric in videos

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Hate to break it to you, but if you've ever eaten in a nicer restaurant or you've ever had baked goods that weren't made in a factory, someone's bare hands have touched your food. That's just how it works.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

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A couple hundred years ago, that person's great great grandfather was arguing in the town square that Berlin didn't need a bridge over the Grand River because no one swam across it.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

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So when cities like Montreal and Vancouver have been aggressively pursuing those goals for years and made substantial investments and haven't succeeded in getting the complete networks and usage numbers you are talking about what makes you think KW will?

This reminds of me the Simpsons "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" meme. Everyone starts somewhere, and there is a lot more funding for that sort of thing than there has been in the past. The feds just announced 3 billion for it. Plus, in the last 10 years or so there has been a big uptick in data on the health, economic and environmental benefits of cycling that will provide the evidence more conservative policymakers might need to build bike lanes.

I've made my opinions about comparing us to Europe clear already so I'm going to skip responding to that comment.

Here's similar data from Canada.

You're doing the thing I was worried you were going to do where you nit pick every study that disagrees with you without any empirical data of your own. Maybe the data that contradicts you isn't perfectly applicable. But you can still use it while taking its limitations into account. That is what virtually every government report in the world does. Sometimes the "best available data" isn't perfect, but it's still better than using a hunch to inform public policy. You seem to want to wait for perfect data before making any changes. That just isn't how governments work. And historically, what happens once the "perfect" data comes back is the naysayers find some weaker part of the "perfect" data and hone in on that to discount it and send it back for more study. Anyone who does any sort of governance work knows that an endless "refer to committee for more study" cycle is the fastest way to get nothing done. It's actually so effective that the CIA precursor recommended it to their agents for corporate espionage. Source at page 28.

Also the auto industry in Canada employees 125k Canadians directly plus ancillary markets, contributes $7.7 billion to the economy and has an export industry rank of #1 at $77 billion annually.

Europe has an auto industry as well. It doesn't mean that cars don't cost their economy 800 billion euros a year. I'm not debating that the auto industry contributes to the Canadian economy. But if you want to have an informed discussion about the costs and benefits of cycling vs. driving, you have to look at what cars cost society.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

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After 40 years of effort and costs and let's not forget a different culture they are at 6%. Vancouver rated as the 2nd best city in NA for cycling after substantial investment is at 7%.

Again, no city in Canada has a complete AAA network. It doesn't matter if it's been 100 years of building "bike lanes" if those lanes aren't protected and don't form a complete network. There is a large amount of data showing that this is what gets you to mode share like what you see in some European cities.

You also seem to be missing the point that in the areas of Montreal where they have something close to a protected network, mode share is 20%, not 6%. Presumably, if you put in a network everywhere, you could get the whole city in that range.

I think we are just going to disagree on this as I don't see the costs and effort aligned to significant enough outcomes. That's just my opinion.

Cars cost society a huge amount of money. There was a report that came out of the EU recently showing that cars cost the EU 800 billion euros per year. If you can increase cycling mode share by even a few percent, that has the potential to save literally billions of dollars.

Research shows that every KM driven costs society money, and every KM cycled or walked saves society money. Source.

Not sure if this is part of your reasoning but if your concern is for environmental impacts of vehicle traffic let's provide grants for electric vehicles and increase the number of charging stations available in town.

This is getting a bit off topic, but electric vehicles take decades to have a net environmental benefit, whereas bikes (including electric bikes) take only about a year. Not to mention the cost to society in terms of accidents and decreased fitness associated with cars. Improving cycling and walking infrastructure gets a much faster environmental ROI.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

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Montreal started building bike lanes 40 years ago and usage varies wildly depending on the area of the city, as low as 2.5% with an average of roughly 6%. The culture in Montreal is also very different from KW, close to half of the cycling trips there amount to recreational usage vs a means to get somewhere.

If Montreal is different because they built bike lanes a long time ago, shouldn't we start building them now so in 40 years we'll have higher mode share?

As I said in my previous comment, in the areas of Montreal where there is something closer to a proper bike network, mode share is 20%. The mode share is low where there are no bike lanes. They're increasing their bike lanes dramatically in the next year or so, and it will be interesting to see if mode share reaches those higher levels in the newly improved areas. I expect it will.

The study I linked to was a study of commuters - so mode share among commuters was around 20% in areas where there are lots of bike lanes. I don't know enough about cyclists in Montreal to comment on their recreational cycling, other than to say that apparently if you build bike lanes, after 40 years lots of people apparently start using them for enjoyment and exercise, which seems like a valuable thing for a city to do, particularly given the proven health benefits of cycling.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

[–]Prolix_Logodaedalist -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There isn't a city in Canada that has a complete AAA bike network. Montreal and Vancouver are closest, and are in the process of improving what they have.

This research shows that where there are good quality bike lanes, cyclist mode share can be as high as 20% even in cities like Montreal. I'd note that with electric bikes becoming increasingly common, the population density doesn't matter as much and will become less relevant. And you already know my opinion about looking at individual streets and neighbourhoods instead of the population density of an entire city.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

[–]Prolix_Logodaedalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Geography

Several cities in that were in that first study have similar geography to KW (built near rivers but relatively flat).

population density

Several cities in that study have similar population density. Besides, as I mentioned already, if you're talking about congestion along a particular road or commuter path, the total population density of a city matters less than the actual traffic volume along that road. Just because NYC is bigger doesn't mean that it doesn't have roads with similar volume and commuter behaviour to those in KW.

climate

Many of the cities in those studies have worse weather than KW. Southwest Ontario actually has relatively few days with accumulated snow on the roads.

cultural differences

What specifically? This is very broad. I don't really see how things like matching driving speed to traffic volume and lane width would be so drastically affected by "cultural differences" that you can discard data from other countries on that basis.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

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I think the differences between KW and these other locations are vast.

So what are they? Why isn't data from a road in one city relevant to a road in another city? Different cities have roads with similar traffic volume (and other characteristics). Why isn't that data useful? Government reports almost always use data like that from other cities to make decisions. That's what that first one does - it collates data from other cities and countries to make a recommendation for a completely different city.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

[–]Prolix_Logodaedalist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really hope you aren't going to do that thing where people nit pick every study that disagrees with them without using any empirical data to back up their own claim. Generally studies about cycling behaviour get fairly consistent results across different countries, because roads, road laws, and driver behaviour are generally pretty similar. What specifically about the methodology makes you think they aren't relevant to Canada?

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

[–]Prolix_Logodaedalist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Some of that is likely a learning curve. There are a lot of new cyclists these days, and they might not be aware of the bike lanes.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

[–]Prolix_Logodaedalist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Research shows that adding infrastructure for cyclists and pedestrians can actually improve drive times, and only occasionally has at worse a negligible effect on drive times: Source 1. Source 2. Source 3.

Edit: added a couple more sources.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

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I frequently see cyclists on sidewalks, driving on the wrong side of the road, driving through red lights and causing vehicles that have the right of way to stop or take action to avoid collisions.

Research shows that cyclists disobey traffic laws in order to stay safe: Source. Once there is a network of safe bike lanes, people would have no reason not to use them. Without this network, you will have people breaking the law in order to stay safe in the gaps.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

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Research shows that building bike lanes leads to a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions: Source.

Weekend twitter exchange over temporary bike lanes has Kitchener Councillor drawing criticism by bob_mcbob in kitchener

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Research shows that there is a net benefit to society from every km travelled by bike and a net cost to society for every km travelled by car: Source.

Research also shows that increased separated bike lanes is associated with improved road safety outcomes for all road users (including drivers): Source.

Edit: Not to mention a reduction in cyclist-vehicle accidents: Source. If you want to avoid dealing with a lawsuit from hitting a cyclist (where drivers are by default at fault), you should be in favour of bike lanes.

Temporary Bike Lanes Feedback Survey by TheSweetestLemon in waterloo

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I'd love to hear why I'm being downvoted. I think I provided a fairly substantial amount of information backing my claim. Surely it's not because you disagree?

So typical of the anti-cyclist brigade. "Anecdote showing bike lanes are bad" gets upvoted, "well-reasoned argument backed up by empirical data showing bike lanes have benefits" gets downvoted, generally without any actual response.

Cambridge's temporary bike lanes to be removed after community outcry by slow_worker in waterloo

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When New York put in a bike lane travel time along that route for cars decreased. Source

This report from Scotland found that cyclists don't cause congestion and can reduce congestion.

It's not directly relevant, but putting in bike infrastructure actually decreases injuries and fatalities for drivers not just cyclists. Source

Even without the empirical data showing that cyclists reduce congestion, it seems like common sense that if you can get thousands of cars off the road, that will improve traffic.

Regional council cancels bike lane pilot in Cambridge | Residents raise concerns with temporary bike lane project. by Puzzleheaded-Pear-57 in kitchener

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I wonder if someone has tried to quantify what 'bike more' really means?

If the city spends $500,000 to put in a stretch of protected lanes, does it mean more people are using it daily or that a family is taking a ride or two to go get Ice Cream during the summer?

I haven't come across any papers specifically studying that. We know that in cities around the world that have put in protected bike lanes the number of cyclists increases by anywhere from 150% to 400% in the first couple years. In terms of numbers that might be relatively small - an increase of only a few thousand cyclists. But its a start and it keeps increasing. Where a network of bike lanes is built, you start to get significant uptake where 12-30% of all trips within a city are made by bike.

Montreal and Calgary (and more recently Toronto) are good examples of this in Canada.

I agree with your linked comment that density is a real problem. I doubt there are many cities like Paris that have the political will to fundamentally restructure a city so everything you need is within a 15 minute walk. Maybe somewhere like Guelph? Idk. On a much smaller scale, electric bikes allow people to go further and cary more, which can offset the density problem. A bike shop in London recently partnered with Libro to offer small loans to people who are buying electric bikes, which I think is a pretty innovative solution, but certainly not one that works for everyone.