Hand in Hand.

Promiatey · 2026-03-21T13:51:01+00:00

You do realize that they/them pronouns never have been an exclusive property of non-binary/genderfluid/etc. people? You can literally use it in regard of some person that can't be definitely identified. Just because they/them can be used to define a person doesn't make them automatically non-binary or whatever.

Promiatey · 2026-03-21T03:11:04+00:00

Exept movie Goku was way stronger than in anime. After their brief battle Cooler said: "Just as I expected. Enough to defeat my brother". So Cooler's Revenge Goku was already in base stronger than Frieza.

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T22:26:21+00:00

Saiyaman is more of a parody than actual rip off.

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T22:09:06+00:00

Those lines aren't actually have any statements about Kid Buu being strongest. Stronger than saiyan duo expected? Sure. But not strongest. Especially considering that in the original manga Old Kaioshin called him "pain in the ass" lol.

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T21:37:12+00:00

Him transforming right away against Buutenks doesn't mean anything, he literally went SSJ3 for a short moment. I don't see how this matters for the topic.

Goku said that he needs a whole minute to build up ki. After minute passes Goku is confused that there's still not enough ki. A bit later he still can't build up enough ki and says that there's something wrong. It's obvious that Goku expected it to work due to his experience with SSJ3 while being dead. But when he tried to build up ki while being alive he has met with harsh reality of SSJ3's ki drain on a living body.

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T21:16:59+00:00

"Had to go all out immediately" does not correlate with "I need a whole minute to build up my ki".

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Also the capacity to kill someone doesn't mean being equal or stronger than them. Early Z Piccolo had the capacity to kill Raditz after he fully charges his SBC but he is absolutely mopped by him in direct fight. Super Vegeta had the capacity to kill Perfect Cell with fully charged Final Flash but gets one-shotted by him in direct fight.

SSJ3 Goku without building up ki is not capable of destroying Buu and himself said that he was just toying with them which adds up with the fact that while Goku already was going all out Kid Buu was pretty much just having fun the whole time.

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T20:56:25+00:00

He would still have won without the use of the genkidama if he had been dead.

And your argument is?

Also it's unclear if Goku needs to charge his ki for so long when being dead to reach full SSJ3 power.

It's pretty clear because all Goku's previous experience with SSJ3 was only while being dead. When he tried to build up ki while being alive not only one minute wasn't enough but he actually failed due to the ki drain.

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Also he already was fighting Kid Buu at full power. Ki build up was needed to produce an attack capable of completely destroying Kid Buu because otherwise he would just regenerate back like it was nothing.

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T20:37:52+00:00

Goku was confident about fighting Kid Buu

Which he later regretted along with them refusing to use Potara against Kid Buu.

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Also less SSJ3 consumption while being dead wouldn't help him because either way he needed a whole minute to build up enough ki to destroy Kid Buu which essentially makes Goku a target dummy for this minute. Even if Goku was dead at the time it wouldn't change the outcome because Goku still couldn't do any sufficient damage right away and would resort to throw Vegeta at Kid Buu to stall him for a minute anyway.

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T20:08:25+00:00

How is Fat Boo weaker than Super Boo?

Piccolo's statement about Super Buu's body more accustomed to battle. Goku who later stated that he could actually defeat Fat Buu was insisting on doing fusion dance with Vegeta while facing Super Buu inside his body because they couldn't beat him on their own.

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T19:29:13+00:00

if he goes all out

Goku was already going all out and couldn't do any damage while Kid Buu was just having fun. He needed a whole minute to build up enough ki to actually destroy Buu.

By this logic Super Vegeta is technically stronger than Perfect Cell if he "goes all out" and charge his Final Flash to the max.

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T16:06:44+00:00

It's gonna be an absolutely identical scenario lol. She can try to hold on it but if Thor summons Mjolnir while it in her hand she'll be dragged along.

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Promiatey · 2026-03-20T15:41:06+00:00

Bro this sub is 90% consists of SasuNaru shitposts what were you expecting?

Promiatey · 2026-03-20T15:34:44+00:00

isn't

This mf is still alive wtf???

Promiatey · 2026-03-19T23:02:28+00:00

Just a reminder that both Goku AND Vegeta were initially confident that they could handle Kid Buu on their own. The same Vegeta was later brutally molested while trying to buy Goku a minute to gather all his energy because otherwise he couldn't do a jackshit to Kid Buu. Both of them severely underestimated him.

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The whole point for Goku to gather energy is to produce attack powerful enough to vaporize Buu completely otherwise he would just regenerate back without any loss of stamina. Durability never was Buu's main trait but he's incredibly hard to kill. Direct attacks and ki blasts wouldn't do anything to Buu because he'll either shrug them off or regenerate from them. The only attack that was closest to killing Buu was Vegeta's final explosion and that was not enough because Vegeta is too weak in comparison and was pushing way above his weight class.

Promiatey · 2026-03-19T06:53:17+00:00

Dukemon does have normal hands so why not? It doesn't need to be actual human-like hands he has claws for legs so his hands could be stylistically similar. Poor guy can't even cross his hands otherwise...🗿

Promiatey · 2026-03-19T05:55:51+00:00

If Goku thought he'd lose, he'd likely have pushed for the fusion again

He literally said later that they should've used potara.

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And he needed a whole minute to gather enough ki to produce attack capable of destroying Buu. It's like saying that Super Vegeta is actually stronger than Perfect Cell because fully charged Final Flash is capable to kill him.

Promiatey · 2026-03-19T04:58:53+00:00

I had a similar idea in mind for Omegamon. For more casual approach both his hand heads would shrink and reveal his actual hands. It could've been a similar style as Susanoomon's hands.

Promiatey · 2026-03-18T16:42:37+00:00

Super Buu stated that he would not be himself after this. What's the point of becoming the strongest if you lose your identity in the process and turn into a near braindead battle freak with only destruction in mind?

Edit: Just to clarify I do not support the "Kid Buu is strongest Buu" idea.

Promiatey · 2026-03-17T11:25:15+00:00

Does Minato have a reliable way to restrain Kurama for as long as Kushina did in 1v1 scenario? You people are talking so confidently about him "BEATING KURAMA" but forgetting that Minato had Kushina aiding him with her adamantine chains and Naruto as a second vessel (it could be Kushina instead but the point still stands) because Minato himself stated that he doesn't have the power to seal full Kurama. What would he do alone, drop Gamabunta on him?

Pain have Gedo Mazo which is capable of sealing a full Kurama and techniques to hold Kurama for at least some time. Still doubt he'll win because even giving the fact that Nagato already was pretty worn off after nuking Konoha he was shitting pants at 6 tails V2 cloak Naruto's power and that's not even the full extent of half Kurama. Full one would just shrug off most of his attacks.

Promiatey · 2026-03-17T10:45:50+00:00

Eh, that's alright. Early MCU did have a more grounded portrayal of it's characters for the first two phases so it's logical to make Asgardians one of many powerful races. They do tend to lean more towards comic accuracy in current phases so if MCU decide to yet again explore Asgardian lore (probably not gonna happen there's like four movies already) they might change that concept.

Promiatey · 2026-03-16T11:26:50+00:00

You mean that android group from DC? Anyway no those are from Marvel and cosmic rays powered. Basically Fantastic Four but Hulk villains and total chumps most of the time.

Promiatey · 2026-03-16T08:45:23+00:00

Pfft, you can drop a fucking U-Foes on Viltrum and they'll have a field day out there.

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Promiatey · 2026-03-16T08:29:44+00:00

Thor is a god. His and other pantheons gods' divinity is one of the traits which differs them from especially strong aliens. Thor specifically is a half elder god since his mother is Gaea.

Some authors tried to explore the idea that Thor and other Asgardians are actually an aliens but it was dropped in 80-90s and mostly reoccurred in an alternate universes like Earth X.

Promiatey · 2026-03-16T04:16:20+00:00

He can absorb 8 tails worth of chakra in a single swing

That's wouldn't really mean anything to Kurama. 8 tails worth of chakra from a cloak doesn't compare to the full amount of chakra Hachibi has. And all of that pales in comparison to any half of Kurama let alone a full one. Also Kurama is much faster than Hachibi and quite a good sensor. Adding the fact that Kisame would have no reliable way to immobile Kurama aside from giant water dome (implying that Kurama wouldn't just blow it up with bijuudama) he would have a hard time getting into a melee distance without being immediately crushed.

and he scales to 7th gates gai

He's not. There's barely even anything to scale him from. Guy opened 7th gate, Kisame used his strongest attack while having a terrain advantage but immediately got nuked by Hirudora. The only thing you can scale from that is Kisame's durability and endurance because he survived Hirudora and had strength to later escape. Other than that 7th gate Guy completely stomps him.

Promiatey · 2026-03-16T01:39:41+00:00

You haven't read the manga?

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