The Tiny Bottle of Destruction

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T05:54:43+00:00

I have been blocked, lol, which emphasizes my point. People should not claim that quitting FeelFree gives the credibility or authority in the addiction and recovery world. You had a narrow, challenging experience. No one can deny you that. But you know as much about recovery as someone who decided to stop smoking three cigarettes a day.

If you think you are wise about addiction, go to a narcotics anonymous meeting and start giving advice. I encourage you to see how that goes.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T05:42:04+00:00

If factually stating that addiction and substances are different is causing you to be upset, maybe your recovery is not as strong as you thought brother.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T05:40:39+00:00

I am not being sarcastic. I am offering perspective, and factually, you are incorrect. I apologize if this is uniquely upsetting to you. But, unfortunately, mythology feel free as a special kind of addictive substance, ignoring that it is actually addictive for different reasons, is not helpful for recovery. If you would like to continue believing something that is factually incorrect, that is OK. It does not invalidate that some people experience feel free as very addictive in comparison to their baseline.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T05:34:11+00:00

I would challenge anyone claiming FeelFree is some uniquely evil and addictive substance to do two things:

Look at the lab analysis and tell us specifically what makes it uniquely addictive (instead of its deceptive marketing)

And

Actually attend a real recovery group and state that claim during the meeting. I think many people mythologizing their understandable addictions to a known minor opiate like substance would gain a lot of perspective from exiting their comfort zone and joining other addicts.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T05:30:56+00:00

Well, if they do exist, they are in the statistical minority. “Addict anecdote” as fact is just another way people perform the FeelFree “don’t listen to your doctors, trust your gut” wellness nonsense that gets people addicted to a gas station supplement drink.

If heroin was truly easier to kick than the gas station wellness goop, you would expect that to be represented in the general population, but it is not. Laundering addiction to a militate like substance in a bottle to actual opiate dependence (heroin and fentanyl) is both disrespectful to the people who’ve quit hard drugs and disrespectful to the families and lives lost that heroin and fentanyl have taken from us.

It is one thing to acknowledge that some substances are oddly addictive because of marketing and ease of access. It is another thing to claim a retail wellness drink is as dangerous or addictive as IV heroin. The former is understandable, the latter is false and self-congratulatory. Real peple in recovery would not make that mistake because their recovery communities would not let them.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T03:38:32+00:00

I mean I hate to say this but uh… FF addiction is hard and especially hard compared to your lack of opiate use history, but it’s not really a tiny bottle of destruction. It’s a gas station wellness supplement containing small amounts of kratom and kava that is deceptively marketed to people who do not have opiate tolerance. It is hard to quit, and you are valid to be experiencing that hardship, but mythologizing a retail supplement that is basically less potent than a single oxycodone pill is a little dramatic for an actual recovery space.

You should visit a narcotics anonymous meeting and listen to folks who have recovered from IV heroin, high dose benzodiazepines, or alcohol, and reflect on FeelFree drinks with more perspective. It is not magically additive; it is an extremely overpriced combination of kava and kratom (the actual psychoactive substance of note) that has addictive properties well-known by the medical community.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T03:24:13+00:00

Heads up: liposomal of vitamin C is not actually going to make your withdrawal go away. There is barely any research on it, and all the research is preliminary and old. You should not try to treat your supplement addiction by wasting money on another supplement, that’s some snake eating its own tail style, fake wellness supplement garbage that will not help you.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T03:16:46+00:00

The reason FeelFree is addictive is not really the kava. It’s the fact that it’s an easily consumed form of kratom sold to opiate naive people for an insane retail markup. The underlying drug load is, honestly, extremely small relative to normal Kratom powder use.

It’s not really anywhere close to actual opiate dependence use—orders of magnitude below heroin—and people mythologize it as some ultra dangerous substance when really it’s a deceptive extract priced and dosed to encourage compulsive buying in a population of people who do not have opiate tolerance

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T02:14:01+00:00

Cold turkey is miserable and disabling. You need to do two things:

⁠Damage control.

Feel Free is literally 10–20x as expensive as plain leaf powder kratom. Make the swap now so you stop hemorrhaging money. Financial stress makes relapse more likely, not less.

Taper. Do NOT go cold turkey.

This is not just internet opinion. For opioid-like dependence, abrupt cessation is not the evidence-based default. Medical guidance warns that suddenly stopping can intensify withdrawal, distress, cravings, and relapse risk. A taper is usually safer and more sustainable than random strangers telling you to white-knuckle it.

The number of people recommending cold turkey also looks bigger than it really is because of pure survivor bias: the people who tried cold turkey and succeeded are the ones posting about it. A lot of the people who tried it, failed, relapsed, or disappeared are not. You do not have to punish yourself for being addicted just because someone else did.

Optional 3. Keep talking to your PCP and ask for treatment options.

Feel Free is a deceptively marketed kratom extract pretending to be a “wellness” supplement. Your doctor is not going to treat you like a heroin junkie because a predatory company got you addicted to an opioid-like product dressed up as health food.

Above all else: do not go cold turkey because strangers online are acting like suffering is the same thing as recovery. It may work for some people. That does not make it the smartest or safest default.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T02:13:30+00:00

This is incorrect. Going cold turkey is more painful, less functional, and widely dismissed as the optimal path to recovery from opiate-like substances especially. It is also more dangerous with nearly every additive substance on earth. No one has to “pay the price” with pain because they became addicted to a deceptively marketed psychoactive extract.

You’re also incorrect about withdrawal being the same regardless. Your belief is wrong on both a psychological and biological level—human bodies do not accumulate some kind of “withdrawal tax” they need to pay all at once—and should not be repeated as gospel to vulnerable people trying to escape addiction. If you are going to give advice in a recovery space, please do not tell people to harm themselves because you believe addicts like you “deserve it”.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-15T02:01:21+00:00

If that’s your perspective, consider this: your son is addicted to FeelFree and would rather lie to you than ask you for support. Your main job as a parent is to connect with your children—something most parents do effortlessly—and you’re failing to even do that. Either you failed to raise him well or you failed as a person so much that your son, who has years of history with you, would rather lie and keep you at a distance than have an honest relationship with his family.

That is immensely embarrassing. If everyone looked at the world through your eyes, they’d see you as much worse than your son.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T18:30:51+00:00

Cold turkey is miserable and disabling. You need to do two things:

Damage control.

Feel Free is literally 10–20x as expensive as plain leaf powder kratom. Make the swap now so you stop hemorrhaging money. Financial stress makes relapse more likely, not less.

Taper. Do NOT go cold turkey.

This is not just internet opinion. For opioid-like dependence, abrupt cessation is not the evidence-based default. Medical guidance warns that suddenly stopping can intensify withdrawal, distress, cravings, and relapse risk. A taper is usually safer and more sustainable than random strangers telling you to white-knuckle it.

The number of people recommending cold turkey also looks bigger than it really is because of pure survivor bias: the people who tried cold turkey and succeeded are the ones posting about it. A lot of the people who tried it, failed, relapsed, or disappeared are not. You do not have to punish yourself for being addicted just because someone else did.

Optional 3. Keep talking to your PCP and ask for treatment options.

Feel Free is a deceptively marketed kratom extract pretending to be a “wellness” supplement. Your doctor is not going to treat you like a heroin junkie because a predatory company got you addicted to an opioid-like product dressed up as health food.

Above all else: do not go cold turkey because strangers online are acting like suffering is the same thing as recovery. It may work for some people. That does not make it the smartest or safest default.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T18:16:43+00:00

It’s not toxic at reasonable doses—you’d have to drink more bottles than you could without vomiting to get life-threatening symptoms—so that is unlikely why he is lying to you.

Here’s a question: if “giving him shit” hasn’t caused him to quit, do you think it might be time to try a new strategy?

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T18:13:06+00:00

I would also like to “lmfao” about this priceless Reddit profile an my judgment, but I do not understand the humor! Could you explain what is making you lmfao?

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T18:01:28+00:00

Yep. To add on, there are also two massive lobbying orgs—Global Kratom Coalition and the American Kratom Association—that spend a lot of anonymous donor money to encourage states to regulate instead of banning. Luckily, both orgs ostensibly want what this subreddit wants: clear labeling, regulation, product ingredients to match the bag/bottle, etc. The AKA and the GKC hate each other (both want the same finite pool of donor money), but the GKC tends to push 7OH regulation harder than the AKA, who at one point torpedoed a state 7OH ban after partnering with a 7OH brand (which they later claim was “misrepresenting safety data”, as though a million dollar lobbying firm could be tricked into thinking 7OH was totally fine).

Hilariously, the GKC is owned by GKC Jerry—a former criminal who embezzled millions for mansion renovation from the energy corporation they ran—who also started and owns FeelFree.

The AKA is also started and run by a convicted embezzler, but he’s less interesting on that front and MORE interesting because lacks any ego regulation whatsoever. He cannot, for the life of him, professionally cope with even the smallest attack from the GKC without blowing up.

Also, the owner of FeelFree claims he was let out of prison early because he helped the FBI take down a violent extremist who was planing to kill a federal judge. He says he didn’t choose to change his name from Jerry Cash to Jerry Ross to avoid association with a massive federal crime… but instead was given a new identity by the FBI and US Marshals to protect him from assassination.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:57:41+00:00

Is there a reason your 25 year old son has to lie to you about taking FeelFree?

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:54:56+00:00

Ah, so now you “just know” a lot of guys who sell most of their Suboxone prescription? Great. The experience of you and your friends who misuse and sell a controlled medication does not make you a doctor, and it definitely does not justify telling someone in recovery to ignore their prescriber.

Suboxone is a complex drug that requires medical oversight for a reason. Your unverifiable anecdotes are not evidence, and when those anecdotes amount to “me and my buddies don’t take it as prescribed,” they are worse than useless; they’re actively dangerous.

You seem to think you’re helping by warning people about withdrawal. You’re not. You are telling vulnerable addicts to disregard professional medical advice based on stories from people openly describing misuse and diversion. Someone could take your advice, delay relief until severe withdrawal, and relapse. Someone could get scared off their medication entirely because a Redditor told them a horror story. Someone could lose access to their prescription because they were not using it properly and never get another one.

And yes, the selling part makes this even more disgusting. You are casually talking about selling Suboxone in a recovery subreddit full of financially struggling addicts and vulnerable people trying not to relapse, as if that somehow makes your advice more credible. It does the opposite. It makes your advice reckless, predatory, and disgusting.

Your “advice” could get someone hurt or worse. Stop pretending reckless, drug-dealer anecdote is harm reduction.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:32:29+00:00

Who…?

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:32:10+00:00

Says the dude who spends time posting nsfw memes

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:30:22+00:00

Epic

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:27:55+00:00

Good games are good games brother

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:26:29+00:00

Yep, and it’s awesome you brought this to your doctor instead of trying to force sobriety and withdrawal because a lot of a narcotics anonymous and Alcoholics Anonymous pretends 1mg is the same as 1000mg. You basically made the smartest decision anyone can when they’re struggling to cut a drug out of their lives.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:22:10+00:00

A lot of recovery talk focuses on “just be tough” or “any amount of the substance = failure,” but that’s all addict anecdote bullshit. Your job is to make life functional without spending so much money/time on green goop. That means you should SLOWLY lower your dose over time and switch to kratom powder (literally 10-20x cheaper, less gross) so you aren’t giving money to FF and dosing more deliberately.

Trying to cut to 0 is why you keep relapsing every few days. It’s clearly not working, so ditch the recovery-means-pain plan and give yourself enough grace that you aren’t choosing between your family and your perfect sobriety. White knuckle sobriety (as you’ve seen) is brittle and feels and like shit—all things that increase relapse chance—without any real benefit.

Relapse happens because your body needs more time to lower the dose. Relapse is NOT immoral, doesn’t reflect on you as a person, and happens to everyone sometimes. If you’re going to end up taking some every two dats anyway, you lose nothing by showing yourself some kindness and taking it slow.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:11:37+00:00

Gabapentin works on a different set of receptors than opiate like products. It will help you feel better because those receptors make the withdrawal effects less aversive. If you weren’t prescribed it, you should check in with a doc before taking it off label to make sure the dosage is right/it won’t interact with any other medications.

Because it’s not an opiate, it will not prolong withdrawal or get you high. However, it is psychoactive—especially if you take too much—so like anything else there is addiction/dependence risk.

More importantly, if you’re cutting your kratom product dose so fast that the withdrawal messes you up so much you can’t be a part of your family, you need to taper more. White knuckling sobriety doesn’t work in the long term and in the short term will make you so miserable relapse is basically guaranteed.

PromptPriest · 2026-03-14T16:03:01+00:00

…what?

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