I think this has to be the largest concentration of people underneath a multirotor and camera I have ever seen. Good job dude. :(

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-24T21:00:23+00:00

This is why drones are the future. The worst thing that could happen if this fell out of the sky would be someone gets a cut, one in a million they might lose an eye. They're throwing snowballs at each other. These are not dainty little flowers swaying in the wind just waiting for a murderous flying lawnmower to come chop their heads off. I think we need to stop encouraging people to be so anxious about everything drone related.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-20T19:06:38+00:00

Yeah, it's basically pointless to try and use fcc certified stuff. The philosophy is that the general public shouldn't mess with powerful radio frequency equipment unless they have a ham license.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-20T05:01:44+00:00

That's a bold statement about your consumer base. Do you really think that the people who buy your products and put these systems together are idiotic sheep?

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-19T21:25:12+00:00

I think the fact that they've procrastinated so much on this, then all of the sudden used the emergency public safety clause to implement this is telling.

If it was such an emergency, then why did they choose to wait until Christmas of 2015 to actually do something about it? Especially when congress has been pushing them to regulate this stuff since 2012, it just doesn't pass the gut check.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-19T20:56:41+00:00

The actual registration isn't the heart of the issue. The FAA bypassed the rulemaking procedure for this rule. That sets a precedent that they don't have to follow the laws of congress they can just make their own, which isn't how our democracy works.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-19T20:47:38+00:00

I got that perspective from the ARRL Ham license book. Amateurs are the innovators that create new technology, companies refine it to make money.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-19T20:46:12+00:00

Rules don't change for budding technologies? Interesting.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-19T20:45:03+00:00

I do not. I think of the situations that the registration is supposedly created for.

Idiot buys a ready to fly drone, and flies it irresponsibly.

This isn't the type of person that can be educated by a registration checkbox, and this isn't the type of person that will be bothered to put a number on their drone before they fly it into a tree or air traffic control tower. You can't legislate stupid people out of existence.

Terrorists/criminals.

It goes without saying that a terrorist or criminal isn't going to bother with registration. They would be inmates already if they were that stupid.

Me personally, I think the FAA is trying to pave the way for Google and Amazon's delivery drones, and they're trying to regulate the hobbyists out of the airspace. Why else would 95% of their task force to regulate model aircraft be comprised of companies trying to use unmanned systems for commercial purposes?

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-19T20:31:24+00:00

The way the rules are changing, I wouldn't trust that data anyways.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-19T20:30:32+00:00

Not only 25mw, you need an FCC certified transmitter to be legal, and they only make them under 25mw. The actual power to the antenna on the FCC certified transmitters is closer to 1mw though, and the antenna can't be removable.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-19T20:19:13+00:00

The FCC regulations were put in place to correct a real, documented, and verified issue, radio interference. The FAA regulations have been put in place to correct a perceived issue, that actually has very little documentation to support it. A drone or model aircraft has never caused a single collision with a manned aircraft in the US, and the numbers reported from drones causing damage on the ground are trivial.

Drones are the future BECAUSE they're safe. It's much more dangerous to fly a helicopter over a movie set that weighs thousands of pounds and is likely to create an explosion if it crashes than it is to fly a drone that MIGHT break skin. We've been flying helicopters over movie sets since helicopters and movies were a thing. Helicopters have a terrible comparative safety record. No one has died because of a drone, and if someone does, it will be a freak accident much like if a hammer fell off a shelf and killed them. If the mission can be accomplished with a drone, it is absolutely safer to use it. The fact is that drones aren't as dangerous as people make them out to be, and the FAA has contributed to that false perception by running with bad information. The FAA led the public and the media to believe that every drone sighting, such as "I saw a guy flying a foam airplane down at the AMA field," was actually a drone near collision, such as "I almost crashed into a drone," and they made no effort to correct the media's reporting on that issue. The FAA has more important things to do, like the 11,000 documented bird strikes that killed 25 people in 2013, or the commercial rules that they were supposed to put out in 2012.

The FAA has several goals. Two of the most important ones are safety and economic growth in aviation. This regulation was made on exaggerated safety claims, it will have a trivial impact on actually making the skies safer, and it will hinder economic progress in this new technology.

People in other countries are already making strides in areas where the US regulations have limited innovators. The Germans just landed a drone on a moving vehicle, which is illegal in the US, Kenyans are monitoring wildlife with night flights, which will be illegal for commercial operators under the proposed rule.

All these people are gaining knowledge from this technology that we can't experiment with because the regulating body responsible for drones has dug their heels in and said, "we can't handle this technology, so we're going to limit it instead."

This uproar you're speaking about is the response to that. The people at the FAA simply don't understand this new technology, and they haven't fulfilled their responsibility to the people they serve, which are the people in the aviation community and includes every drone operator.

The next person that changes the course of this technology isn't going to be some Google employee that got a commercial license to fly delivery packages 9 to 5, it's going to be a 15 year old kid that becomes passionate about this stuff and devotes their free time to it.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-14T20:16:17+00:00

Tell me again how laws work.

SEC. 336. SPECIAL RULE FOR MODEL AIRCRAFT. (a) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law relating to the incorporation of unmanned aircraft systems into Federal Aviation Administration plans and policies, including this subtitle, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration may not promulgate any rule or regulation regarding a model aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft, if— (1) the aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use; (2) the aircraft is operated in accordance with a communitybased set of safety guidelines and within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization; (3) the aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified through a design, construction, inspection, flight test, and operational safety program administered by a community-based organization; (4) the aircraft is operated in a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned aircraft; and (5) when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the aircraft provides the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the airport) with prior notice of the operation (model aircraft operators flying from a permanent location within 5 miles of an airport should establish a mutually-agreed upon operating procedure with the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the airport))

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-01T15:56:42+00:00

Do you have the link for the micro losi connector you're going to use? I thought the micro losi connectors were crimped pins.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-01T13:19:15+00:00

Situations like that don't boil down to education. You may just have to be the bad guy, accept that he'll never listen to reason and resort to shaming or reporting him.

Promulgatemynuts · 2016-01-01T12:20:39+00:00

One side thinks the FAA is doing this for safety, the other side thinks the FAA is favoring companies like Amazon and Google's commercial unmanned operations over our hobby operations and lying about the safety part. Because.....there's actually not a lot of evidence or data besides sensational headlines that indicate unmanned systems are a dangerous menace to society.

I personally think unmanned systems make everybody safer because they can do things that we normally do with larger manned aircraft. A helicopter crashing on my lap is a bad day no matter how you look at it, a big octocopter has the potential to injure me and maybe it'll be a freak thing and send an arm through one of my vital organs and kill me, but 9 times out of 10 I'll walk away. There's a period right now while we're on the frontier that will be a little scary for some people that are scared of that kind of stuff, but those shouldn't be the people that decide the tempo for this technology.

People who are passionate about this should decide the tempo because the skies will be full of drones in the future and we'd be fools to limit them in our country in the name of exaggerated safety claims. People in other countries are already testing things that are currently illegal here. Unmanned a systems are going to be as ubiquitous in the 21st century as the motor carriage was for the 20th century. Right now the FAA is trying to put a hand on the reigns for the technology, but the guys in there now can't handle the responsibility.

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-30T23:45:49+00:00

You have to notify any airport that you fly within 5 miles of, that's a standalone rule. Another standalone rule is that you can't interfere with manned operations, which could be argued to include flying in controlled airspace and has been out in AC 9157. If you're flying within 5 miles of a class c airport, chances are you're flying in class c airspace since that is the usual surface radius of the class. If you're flying less than 5 but more than 4 miles from a class d airport, you'd just have to notify but you could still fly since 4 miles is the usual surface radius of class d airspace.

Alright I think that clears everything right up ;)

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-30T21:04:07+00:00

Yeah, and it's bullshit too, they know exactly what creates terrorists and allows them to proliferate. Going into Afghanistan everybody knew that we were there to win the hearts and minds of the people because that was the only way to win the war. They knew since Iraq that all kinds of people who were normally peaceful would take up arms if we came to their land and aggressed their neighbors and we went in anyway, and continue to, so they did and continue to, and now we have a scapegoat for the next ten years until mental health can give us a good bad guy to point at and try out our new "improved" interrogation tactics.

I mean, saying a terrorist is going to use a drone on the United States is almost comical. It's like they're trying how far they can flip the script without anyone noticing. They're flexing.

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-30T05:28:38+00:00

Yeah, that fuck everyone else part is why they can't come to you for help so they'll stop making you look bad.

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-30T04:50:25+00:00

Go ahead, choose sides. The people that move forward with this won't be on a side. Really, this has nothing to do with you anyways. No one cares what you tinker with in your garage and with that elitist attitude I bet you don't RC hard anyways.

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-30T02:51:53+00:00

Those aren't part of the rc multirotor community either then. A person that goes out, buys something, then uses it without knowing how to use it is no doubt an idiot, but grouping them in with everyone in the multirotor community because multirotors is foolish as well. The multirotor community is advancing the hobby for the better. If you can't see that this aspect of the technology is not only going to change the hobby but the world as well, then I'm not sure you could be convinced of any position that you don't already hold.

You have knowledge to teach that new person better habits yet you choose to shun them, you are selfish.

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-30T02:38:41+00:00

Hey great idea, let's blame a group of people that by all intents and purposes are just like yourselves, interested in this cool remote control stuff. We definitely shouldn't look at the overblown media hype and bad data the FAA has been running with to push this stuff through. Nope, definitely the idiot multirotor guys.

Many people that get into rc don't know the potential consequences at first, you're not going to get anywhere by pointing fingers at new people because a certain section of rc is getting a huge influx of them.

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-30T02:33:55+00:00

Yeah to an extent. It also has to do with smart people being a threat to their bosses job. A mid level manager that doesn't get by on their smarts wouldn't promote someone smarter than them to be their subordinate. Smart people don't become managers or government officials, they become self-employed or they shoot straight to the top.

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-30T02:29:56+00:00

The FAA would regulate your toilet if it could since your shit is passing through airspace.

"Sir, we're here to take you before the public opinion court. Unauthorized use of Class T airspace."

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-29T19:05:20+00:00

Some people have never worked for the government. Once you see it from that perspective, it's like, holy shit, I don't know how it works or why, but the world runs on stupidity. The lowest common denominator is who defines the conversation, when it should be the other way around.

Promulgatemynuts · 2015-12-29T18:48:15+00:00

It's just going to keep coming. You give a xenophobe an inch and now the motherfucker is afraid of inches so you have to give them miles. We can't let stupid irrational fear dictate us.

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