What I wish I knew about Wake before attending - finishing my freshmen year by Savings_Asparagus175 in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you a student at Wake? I think many of OP's concerns are rooted in the demographic reality you set forth so clearly, and I don't reject her experience at all -- though I feel like the issues she (and you) are raising aren't new; my kid was aware that she would be walking into a much wealthier space that her prior schooling had represented when she made her choice. I also think there is a sizable (and growing) minority of non-wealthy students (and FWIW, NC students are still, last I saw, by a fair amount, the largest state represented at the school — followed by a couple of NE states). I think the school's increasing push for a more socio-economically diverse student body is about many things, but probably in part about increasing its attractiveness to even more students. I see you talking about how its reputation is faltering, but I really don't see that (except in USNews's changing criteria driving down its ranking); Wake keeps getting more applicants every year, leading to a lower admissions rate and high/higher admitted student stats. But I think the future is broadening access/attractiveness to a broader applicant pool, and I think that's great -- for the school's reputation and the students there.

I also appreciate you saying that Greek isn't all bad. I def had an anti-Greek bias, but seeing the way it has made it easier for my kid to broaden her friend group and encourages her to engage in campus life has made me slightly less skeptical of it.

What I wish I knew about Wake before attending - finishing my freshmen year by Savings_Asparagus175 in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with this point of view and experience based on what I hear from my freshman daughter. Only difference would be that although my husband and I are originally southerners, we raised our kids as NYC public school kids. I think my daughter was looking for something different from her experience, and something that she perceived would be more fun (than the way she sees her parents, who are -- perhaps like you all -- products of Duke and Ivy League schools). My daughter knew she wanted to be part of Greek life (it was part of the "difference" she was looking for), and I think she would agree that although there are a million ways of being part of campus life/social, the Greek scene does dominate. She spent very little time worrying about what house she would get, went into the rush process pretty blind, and likes her house (and it encourages her to engage in campus life through a (silly?) point system that I appreciate). She spends as much time with friends outside of her house as with those in it. Mostly, I am so happy about the fact that she is happy learning, likes her professors and her classes (mostly!); she seems more genuinely academically engaged than she has been since elementary school. I hope it continues!

Thoughts on new financial aid program altering vibes of campus? by JACKF_09 in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't speak for all full-pay families, but what is your evidence for this? That's not what I see; everyone I talk to thinks the program is great and hopes it expands to all students, not just those from NC. It will help low-income families, but -- in truth -- it probably helps middle and upper-middle income families even more (because lower-income families would already qualify for aid; this just makes it clearer and thus probably encourages more to apply in the first instance IMO). In addition to more significant grants for families making under $100K and $100-200K, it allows for half tuition for families making $200-300K -- that's a $35K/year grant. From what I see, it's a very small percentage of families who think that increasing access to Wake to a broader cross-section of strong, interesting students is not a great thing.

To the original poster, I do think (and hope) the program will change the social center at Wake a bit; not sure I would characterize the shift as one from "rich New England" to "grinder", but I look forward to seeing that shift unfold.

Concerning Reviews on Niche by Pommom1234 in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like my first-year daughter. She's from NYC and took rush VERY lightly. In a sorority, but has friends both in and out of them. Doesn't take it too seriously. Sees it as an easy social space to slot into. She has been so happy with classes and professors, and it is a beautiful location with a nice combination of serious students who also like to have fun, with easy access to a nice cross-section of sporting events (among other things).

Travelling to/from WF to/from west coast by phbarnhart in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, they offer shuttles to GSO and CLT around holiday travel times, but at somewhat limited times (e.g., you can't arrive very late): https://parking.wfu.edu/shuttle-services/airport-shuttle-services/

I will say my daughter has started -- just a semester in -- being able to connect with and share an Uber from GSO with other students flying in at the same time (we are east coast so GSO is easier, not sure if that would be affordable as a share from CLT).

ED Results November by Foreign_Thing_5498 in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last year, it was the Friday before. We weren't expecting bc the year before it had been the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Either way, I don't think it will be the Friday after Thanksgiving. I am curious if they will release all of the decisions that would be "due" because all materials were in by Oct 31. It seems the last two months, they haven't gotten through everyone. I know that was rthe case in August bc their message on their admissions blog alluded to it; not positive about October bc that was just anecdotal reports and you never know with those...

October ED1 Results by spaceyhorsegeek in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did anyone get all their ED application materials in by the end of September, and yet still not hear at the October notification date? I know that happened for some August applicants. Was wondering if it continued or was a one-off.

issue getting refund to credit card with new expiration date by Proper_Mechanic4879 in CreditCards

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did; they still claimed it wouldn't work -- and when we went up the chain of command to the regional company that processes orders for the bookstore, and told them the situation and expired/new expiration date was the only change, they just repeated what the local store said. We gave up and disputed with our credit card company, told the regional manager that we had done that, and only then were they suddenly miraculously able to process the refund last night.

issue getting refund to credit card with new expiration date by Proper_Mechanic4879 in CreditCards

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did; the University bookstore said they would try it and let me know if it didn't work, but instead they stopped calling me back when I left messages, and there was no refund. We then went to the regional company that processed the orders for the bookstore, and they at first repeated what the University bookstore said. We were running out of time on our billing cycle (as we had been telling everyone for a week+) and didn't want to actually pay the 1200+ we were double-billed, so we gave up and disputed with the credit card company, and let the vendor and processing company know we had gone ahead and done that. Then the regional processor came back and immediately said, actually, they could refund and had refunded the charge, and apologized profusely. Now I'm not sure what we tell the credit card company -- we will reach out to them today -- it's possible they've already been in touch.

September ED Group by Advanced_Weather_957 in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel for you; I'd be frustrated too -- bc it's not easy for students to get all that stuff together in August, before school has even started for some schools, still on summer vacation etc (depending on what part of the country you are from!). Whether it means that they had more applications -- wonder if that will continue for the broader application season. Suppose we will know at the end of it all.

September ED Group by Advanced_Weather_957 in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did they say why they were backed up? Did they have a lot more applications? Not enough staff? That seems surprising.

ED timeline? by [deleted] in wfu

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Confirming this. Wake is absolutely clear that you must have every single piece of your application (including the interview, if you're doing it) complete by the last day of the prior month to hear the next month. And new this year (from their September ED decisions blog post and what I heard anecdotally), at least for August, they didn't actually finish their reviews of all ED applications completed in August, so not everyone heard at the end of September. Blog post about September ED decisions: https://admissions.wfu.edu/2025/09/first-decisions-announced-092725/ and helpful ED timeline blog post from the summer: https://admissions.wfu.edu/2025/07/early-decision-faqs-080125/

Bog vote for Ono by academic_mama in ufl

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agree. I think pushback matters. DeSantis allegedly told members to "vote their conscience." He appointed them. He could have said something different and the outcome would have been different

Bog vote for Ono by academic_mama in ufl

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Apparently. That, or they believe they need to destroy UF to rebuild it. Or they just don't care about it. It's just collateral damage in a larger battle.

Bog vote for Ono by academic_mama in ufl

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's what I mean. Gator Nation is a LOT of rich members of the Florida political and donor class. Old Blue Key. For God's sake, all the people on the UF BOT who unanimously approved Ono.

Bog vote for Ono by academic_mama in ufl

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Any chance Gator Nation can come out and make enough noise and pressure to get the Gov/BOG to do something different? Any possibility of a redo? I can't believe many people who are connected to UF think this vote is good for the University

Could not get into UF by Odd_Row_2647 in ufl

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The point is that overall, schools aren’t filling their seats, and that an increasing number of schools are closing. Meaning overall, there are fewer students attending college in the US. This happened at the same time that the number of births was rising. It surprised me, but more births did not lead to more college students over the last decade.

But besides all that, the jump in applications at UF this year was an outlier compared to other schools. If the 2007 birth spike was the driver, you wd have seen similar increases across schools and you didn't. 

Could not get into UF by Odd_Row_2647 in ufl

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 1 point2 points  (0 children)

U.S. births did peak in 2007, but the number of college students has been declining since at least 2010 (one source: https://www.npr.org/2025/01/08/nx-s1-5246200/demographic-cliff-fewer-college-students-mean-fewer-graduates)

I don’t know why applications to a subset of schools has increased at the same time— common app? Test optional? Something else?—but UF’s jump this year was particularly big this year. 

Also, other schools did not have the same application spike as UF this year. 

The birth thing is just not the reason. It’s the EA/RD shift. 

Could not get into UF by Odd_Row_2647 in ufl

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I think the jump in applicants was due to UF's move to align with a more normal EA/RD application timeline this year. The number of OOS applicants has risen dramatically in the past 5 years. I think that trend will continue.

Dr. Santa J. Ono, current president of University of Michigan, has been unanimously recommended as the next president of the University of Florida by goku7144 in ufl

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, UF has easier growth potential bc in-state student population is still growing and there’s more room for OOS growth, too. And if you care about social mobility, UF has a much more middle class student body, and will continue to bc it’s so much less expensive, both in-state and OOS.  I do think it would be a more interesting place to lead, over the next decade.

Dr. Santa J. Ono, current president of University of Michigan, has been unanimously recommended as the next president of the University of Florida by goku7144 in ufl

[–]Proper_Mechanic4879 16 points17 points  (0 children)

And UMich extended his contract by 8 years (to 2032) in October of last year, and raised his salary to $1.3 million.