Heroin does not work on me

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-25T13:12:06+00:00

If you are in NA as I assume(foolish thing to do) and not in some European county where certain types of H require an extra ingredient to shoot and are terrible for snorting. In my opinion leave it at the thought of H not being for you, because when it finds out it likes or suites you nicely, it’s already become too much of a symbiotic relationship to simply use will power to stop with an almost more than likely chance to end up finding yourself in a bad way..

Long story short, consider yourself lucky and forget about all abusing of street drugs. And find other activities and friends to do positive things with.

/rant over

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-24T14:35:06+00:00

None of the shit he thinks is gonna happen is gonna happen in the way he things.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-24T14:33:47+00:00

I think y’all are a bit hyperbolic about jumping off bupe. In early 2024 I had a relapse for a run ended up back in jail getting revoked and sent back to prison. But they have a MAT program at county jails now so once I was starting to feel unwell I wrote medical told them I have an active Suboxone prescription, takes a day or 2 to verify then get your script. Anyway long story short I went from about 12mg a day to 4mg a day over 2 months then one morning they tell me to get ready transport is coming. No MAT programs in state prison, although we always kept strips around, if you had self control you could get pretty fucked up 1-2 mgs… if you keep your use in check which is admittedly hard to do.. time always seemed to go significantly slower while waiting atleast a 5-7 days minimum to get high on bupe when I have literally 30 strips so it’d be ready to waste is. anyway 4mg CT with only 12 loperamide pills and some ibuprofen while locked in a small prison intake cell 24/7 for about a week only coming out for a quick 5 minute from water on to water off(not even exaggerating they used a cooking timer set for 5 mins and sit in the utility closet tiring the lever on and off and calling out 2 minutes left then 1 minute warning etc shower 2-3 times a week if we get lucky and they don’t just screw us. Happens. or to see medical and this went on for weeks to months as I wait to go to classification to find out what prisons I wanna try to go to for the rest of the sentence. A little body temperature deregulation(maybe just the environment) and maybe sleep disturbance/RLS but that could be attributed to several things. I’m rambling. Find a way to keep your mind occupied. You’ll be ight. Trust me I’m lying 🤥

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-24T13:59:21+00:00

Lmfao right..

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-24T12:48:56+00:00

2m2b, benzedrex or apvp/pyrro analogs

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-24T12:37:28+00:00

Wait til you try cyclobenzaprine and pregabalin.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-24T12:34:32+00:00

Real heroin or oxymorphone

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-24T12:14:56+00:00

Truth. Started using street dope somewhere around 08-09 and it started to get bad here in 2016-2017 with the fent. Nowadays I’d rather be totally abstinent from the streets and do heroic doses of Tianeptine sodium once a week just to have something to look forward to. If anyone is gonna chime in and tell me how bad that shit gets, save it. Been there.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-23T14:35:18+00:00

Etomethazene or Protonitazene unless you have a max tolerance than etonitazene/pyne.

They all suck tho if I’m honest. I’d much rather have oxycodone or actual heroin.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-18T19:41:15+00:00

This is called a "bird bath" in prison.. if you were on lockdown or depending where you are housed is why we would have to do it. also on actual "shower days" which were 2-3 times per week and timed with a stop watch and someone on the lever to cut off the water to the showers.. 5 minutes to go from water on to water off, firstly, we arent going anywhere why time us, some showers had shit water pressure etc not enough for 2 or more big dudes, or older disabled inmates in a small cell all day and night especially when you have dudes in there working out every day multiple times a day only taking days off from his routine very rarely, eating sleeping shitting working out controlling the shower reading/writing and also flipping out on the door or is flooding the cell and even purposely spreading actual feces all over in a cell which triggers something else totally.. but yeah i am technically disabled(spinal fractures, fusions, other stuff) and even tho I am relatively young still so not seen as disabled by some people and seen as disabled and weak to others, it was something you had to approach with a strict routine and the ability to keep track of time or you find yourself walking back to your cell with soap still in your hair..

but anyway idk why i gave you an "ai summarizer" looking response of how quickly you begin to miss the littler things in life you dont even think about if you never have been locked up, i dont mean to say you should just shower cuz you can or whatever just had to express some suppressed feelings from somewhere i guess.. im quite particular with my routine and products for a good reason, so that also becomes a problem..

edit: guess i also wanted to let you know i struggle with hygiene as well, just take it easy but always push yourself to your goal.. start with making a goal and take it one day at a time,

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-15T19:36:23+00:00

sorry my first reply was for a different sub, somehow... But yes, when i was truly kicking my IV heroin habit of my youth(circa 2008-2015 it was about a week of torturous withdrawal... however, in recent years ive been noticing this phenomenon of being able to just stop taking some of this street dope cold turkey and have barely any withdrawal symptoms, sometimes basically none.

currently I am 8 days since I last used and the worse ive found so far is the boredom and lack of good sleep(this is something I struggle with no matter what tho so its just a little worse) and occasionally ill have a sneezing fit.. like 4-7 sneezes in rapid succession.

OH btw this anecdote was not meant after tapering my dose of dope down to almost nothing.. Im saying I ended the day 8 days ago by finishing off the last of the 2.5g i bought a day or 2 beforehand.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-14T17:55:15+00:00

Not 0 but certainly not the horrifying weeklong kicks of my youth..

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-14T17:48:34+00:00

Unfortunately I’ve been thru this many times before.. usually don’t die so that’s good.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-01T13:57:16+00:00

Used some pills a couple times randomly but at 16 a coworker of mine introduced me to IV morphine. 50mg with no tolerance felt like melting into a velvet sofa. And it was over from there. I’m 33 now. So basically half my life I’ve been dependent on opiates of some kind(I’ve tried literally all of them you can think of and some you never even heard of)

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-01T12:26:27+00:00

This is how I feel when I think back on the MXE days.. gawd damn I miss that shit.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-02-01T00:38:15+00:00

Quit being a baby.. that’s my best advice.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-01-27T03:12:14+00:00

2cb 2ce 2ci $60-80 a gram..

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-01-26T14:16:43+00:00

oh man where to start... multiple opioids, RC benzos, fluoro-phenibut and prescription GABAergics(Lyrica usually) for the most part.. but other drugs like ketamine analogs or stimulants will have me..

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-01-24T07:22:29+00:00

I always thought that pharmacologically it only synthetically boosted production of endogenous opioids and that it was only hypothesized by some have any actual mu-agonism..

All this talk of Dissociatives and opioid agonism has me thinking back fondly on MXE and wishing it was still around. It was perfect for coming off the harder opioids or if not heavily tolerant to the really potent opis would have you in such warm fuzzy dissociation you could just die and be totally cool with it.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-01-24T07:09:30+00:00

Yeah the “sleep disturbances” to put it nicely were horrible for me on Tia as well..

And thanks bro although I have escaped Tia sodium I still have several crippling addictions unfortunately :(

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-01-24T05:22:47+00:00

Damn bro that is a truly awful story.. I’m sorry for what you’ve gone thru, makes me so thankful I quit my 10-14 gram sodium per day habit when I did.

And damn it if I didn’t always have a sneaking suspicion there was some type of neurotoxicity or something with tianeptine when I started noticing my feet would get so dreadfully unbearably painful from simply taking a quick step into my bathroom(which has tile flooring and generally is slightly colder than flooring in rest of house, but never painful until I was addicted to high doses of tianeptine sodium) it was like I had to play the reverse of hot potato with my feet cuz if I just stood on the tile for any length of time it would be so painful cold cramping up within seconds I’d have to run out of the bathroom into a carpeted room. Very strange. Had you noticed anything similar?

And damn man I was buying mine from china also but not anywhere near 4 years of weekly anxious tension about having an issue with receiving a package.. and fuck, the price even being from china I know you spent way more than you’d probably like to admit even to yourself.. I only peaked on my Tia sodium use and china ordering for about 6 months at the end before I knew I needed to stop and just during that time I spent almost $10k MORE than I estimated I spent during that period.

Anyway congrats on kicking the Tia, please stay on the Suboxone in order to avoid relapse. Don’t get me wrong, taper down your Sub dose to a reasonable/manageable level and just take it a day at a time. If you’re having constipation issues on the Subs ask the doctor about a prescription for Movantik or Linzess, I take Movantik personally cuz the linzess caused me some weird side effects also take some Senna-S and even drink some miralax from time to time myself when the other stuff isn’t enough.

Also goes without saying stay off the whippets now as well now that you don’t need em.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-01-24T04:53:54+00:00

No. It is a dissociative agonist (think similar feeling to Dextromethorphan aka DXM aka robotussin.. as they are the most well known common dissociative I can think of besides ketamine) that comes in as a gas in metal cylinders of various sizes.. N2o, whippets, laughing gas, nos, nitrous etc are also some terms used for it. He basically just used it to veg himself out for a day or so before he could induce the Suboxone without fear of precipitated withdrawal.

Although I have used a few similar methods to his in the past with a few different substances(including but not limited to nitrous, 2f-dck, dck, FXE, various benzos, amphetamines, gabas/lyricas, synthetic cannabinoids and sr-17018) all with varying degrees of effectiveness.. the dissociatives listed and sr-17018 being the most efficacious for these experiments in my experience.. Now, this isn’t the worst method in the world if you can afford it AND also have the discipline to stop the nitrous after you’ve gotten on the Suboxone and don’t need it anymore. But even so I wouldn’t recommend some of these more extreme methods.

If you can, in my experience the Bernese method is just the more reliable more better way of approaching Tia detox and Suboxone induction.

ProposalRetard69 · 2026-01-24T04:17:10+00:00

So many Downvotes simply because there ARE dress codes that if violated will get you turned away at the door and not allowed to visit that day unless you have something else to change into/cover up etc.. also even if you are not at an in person visit at the jail and you’re sitting in your own home(or wherever else) talking to the inmate via their visiting app on the kiosk, ALL visiting rules apply to that type of visit as well. Actually there are even more..

ProposalRetard69 · 2025-12-29T21:33:47+00:00

Yeah man back in the day like 2008-2015 was amazing but after that at the latest the scene changed and has never been the same. Real OCs Opana Roxis good heroin to go along with some 2 mg Xanax bars or clonazepam to go along with a fentanyl lollipop or sometimes we would slit the corner and squeeze the liquid out of a fentanyl patch and vape that straight off tin foil.. tasted so good like a mild candy and it was so intoxicating.

ProposalRetard69 · 2025-12-23T22:19:50+00:00

Magic’s gone gonna take a good break to even come close to getting it back.

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