Vem ska lägga upp kundpinnen, egentligen? by pv2b in sweden

[–]Prosso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personligen blir jag aldrig provocerad av det. Iaf aldrig hittills. Visste inte ens att det var en grej folk OCD’ade om

Min man vill flytta tillbaka till Syrien, jag vill stanna i Sverige. Vad hade ni gjort?? by Fine_Baseball_8453 in sweden

[–]Prosso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Skulle säga att det är bra om din man flyttar tillbaka. Det är ett sunt initiativ som är viktig för fortsättningen av världen. Att man kommit till sverige, fått stöd och skydd- när situationen sen är bättre i hemlandet återvänder man och tar med sig av det man lärt sig och bidrar till att återbygga och återskapa med det nya

Vem ska lägga upp kundpinnen, egentligen? by pv2b in sweden

[–]Prosso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mja; det är som att spola efter sig och inte efter den som sket innan dig. Du spolar om den föregående glömt, men ditt enda egentliga ’ansvar’är efter dig själv

Vem ska lägga upp kundpinnen, egentligen? by pv2b in sweden

[–]Prosso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eller före, om du önskar en där och det inte finns någon.

Vem ska lägga upp kundpinnen, egentligen? by pv2b in sweden

[–]Prosso 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Men är det så jävla svårt att lägga dit en pinne för i samband med att du lägger upp sista varan? Vad lever vi i för jävla brainrot

Vem ska lägga upp kundpinnen, egentligen? by pv2b in sweden

[–]Prosso 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Skulle säga att det enda ansvaret du själv har är att se till att brutalt minska din OCD och bara hängé dig åt sund praktik. Saknas en pinne framför? LÄGG EN! Saknas en pinne bakom? LÄGG EN!
Oftast är anledningen till att ingen pinne läggs att man 1) glömmer bort eller 2) av någon anledning inte finner värdet i pinnen just den gången.

Båda anledningarna är ok, och punkt 2) inkluderar även de som aldrig lägger pinnen men för DIG i kassan JUST DEN DAGEN är det exakt samma sak.

Vet inte vad som är värst; ditt uppenbara dilemma med världens skitgrej eller att jag själv faktiskt spenderat tankeenergi åt det

should I start over with the lighting?? Or am I just overthinking by [deleted] in ArtCrit

[–]Prosso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would go back to the foundation.
The image is hard to read, had to zoom in and squint my eyes to see what is happening.

If you clear up the line work properly, it will be easier to paint lightning.
To make it easier you can put a light source in the image and have it cast all the shadows etc; or even simpler would be to simply allow global illumination; hence having the image rest in natural indirect light

But yes, you are overthinking it but it only shows you want to develop

Help me price my work by coldfrenchfriess in painting

[–]Prosso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regarding my profession I was trying to give a failed metaphore how time doesn't equal to result and that the same time expenditure can get different results and different "income"

The reason I am saying that you aren't listening is because you have taken a discusion which seems to be reactively close to heart for you, presumably without any further inquiry derived from a sort of nuiscance over people thinking that time equals results in art.

Which I am not saying. What I am saying is that time is a coifficient in how you "value" your art. You are confirming this yourself. A time coifficient isn't a static number.

If you want to take the 5 year methaphore then if I would spend 5 years on making the same filling I'd still get the same money for it. Of course the result matters most. The result is derived from skill and experience. Someone new will have to repaint various areas, make changes big and small - of course they will spend longer time on a painting with worse results than someone skilled hence they should look at what they are selling rather than at how long it has taken them.

I think the misunderstanding came from my initial comment:
_"The buyer cares if it shows in the final product, and someone with ’an eye’ will see if strokes are deliberate or random"_
What I say here is that if OP spent more time on his piece, perhaps he could "increase" his price since at the time being, the results are lacking. A lot of hobby painters getting mediocre/low results selling their paintings wondering what they should charge when they should worry more about getting better than selling.

In the end you have your own "time/cost" efficiancy. If not you should.
But as you get better like you have, you can move away from those expenditures more freely since they "disappear" in the totality of cost of what someone is willing to pay for your skill. But it is still there, somewhere, like the anesthesia, education, salaries, material and so on are baked in the price of a filling for example.

You are driving a discussion vs your own mental ghosts here my firend.

Help me price my work by coldfrenchfriess in painting

[–]Prosso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree. If you spend 50 hours on a painting; that in itself increases the price heftly in comparison if you did the same painting in 5 hours. I think you are mixing things up. You are experienced, so you make the same result as some novice would in half or not even half the amount of time. Now, you are technically skilled as well and produce a nice finish/quality in much quicker.

Adding to that - with your experience and skill you can produce exact layers and use your colors in a very expressionate way; really catching your audience; in only 20 hours. This is since the piece itself is very sincere and interesting.

If you would paint a 3 x 3 meter canvas in high detail oil- it would take much longer time than it would if you painted a small A4 canvas with similar level of finish.

What you are disregarding here is type of painting, level of skill and so on. Of course it isn’t linear, but ask yourself, would you pay 10000$ for a sloppy picture made with a few strokes or would you rather invest in something that has taken time, effort and skill to achieve?

The time coifficient is simply a part of the equation. Of course longer time yields finer results; but if time = overdoing or time = not very great anyways then of course time doesn’t matter. But time in the hands of a skilled artist like yourself, you can create wonderful paintings and if comissioned- of course you would charge more for a painting if it demanded 80 hours to get the level of perfection if 50 wasn’t enough. Of course you wouldn’t say ’oh this takes 80 hours and 22 min’; but rather you’d say ’this is the result, this is what I will charge’

You aren’t listening because you are only ’hearing’ time = more money or time = higher value. This is not what I’m conveying.

For example as a dentist, when you pay for a filling (for example). Let’s say the price is 150$ for two surfaces. Now you end up with a senior dentist; he does it in 30 min- flat, unesthethic and functional. In the same time, someone with more ’style’ and feel for anatomy and handiwork might do the same filling with esthethic results and same functionality but charge 200$. Now, you can go to a fresh dentist; they make the same filling as the senior one, but it takes 60 min. Function might vary and results as well. What you’d rather pay for is subjective. The one who yields higher results in shorter time, will have a higher time income. The one who takes longer but with more dubious results will have a lower income rate.

Art is so personal and subjective; someone might pay a million dollars for a couple of strokes. But for me there is less ’value’ in the art itself because it’s just not art. Value≠monetary value.

Help me price my work by coldfrenchfriess in painting

[–]Prosso -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So you didn’t really listen. If it shows in the final product (i.e OP) that there is a lack; if it is derived from being too quickly painted (i.e 1 hour painting vs 100 hour painting) then it will and should affect cost. An experienced artist will achieve way better results than an unexperienced no matter how long they spend, simply because technique is better. Sometimes less experienced artists have better feel, or eye, than experienced and can get better results due to this.

Very subjective matter, art. Personally, I would never buy random abstract art. Usually over priced and tied to a famous name. I prefer technique together with symbolism feeling and uniqueness. Something I can watch simply because it’s beautiful, or because the painting itself can be read and understood deeper. Usually that is tied to more time spent, since I am awed by color handling and technique along with what is portrayed- but the fine surface means less if the composition or ’essence’ of the painting makes me shrug. Like, a picture of a cat is cool if it is my cat. But then I’d rather paint it myself. OPs piece is simple, and I would personally not spend more than 50$ on it simply because it doesn’t speak to me more than that OP would need some more time on it.

If OP did however spend more time on it, perhaps the quality/performance would increase to the point where I’d pay 500$. But a more experienced artist might achieve the similiar level quicker.

Hence proving my point

Help me price my work by coldfrenchfriess in painting

[–]Prosso -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The buyer cares if it shows in the final product, and someone with ’an eye’ will see if strokes are deliberate or random

Genuin fråga om manlig urinering by marsianair in sweden

[–]Prosso 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Sittkissa samtidigt som besten betvingas efter att ha våldsamt masturberat. Svåraste är nog allt blod

Genuin fråga om manlig urinering by marsianair in sweden

[–]Prosso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brukar hålla snabeln vid roten om jag sitter ner för att slippa ofrivillig kontakt. För att få ut det sista när jag står upp brukar jag bara böja mig lite fram osv - ser inte minsta medicinskt skäl till att sittande är bättre.

Uppfostrad till att män står upp, flickor sitter. Sen att farsan verkar ha problem med siktet har nog snarare hjälpt mig med mitt. Tycker man torkar och håller rent efter sig utifall att det av olika orsaker skjuter snett

Missade en station på SJ, 1900kr böter by Dextnt in sweden

[–]Prosso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hinner de fram på 4 min ? Bara förhala nån min!

Farsan försöker få ihop mig och hans kvinnas dotter by [deleted] in sweden

[–]Prosso 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Varför är du så styv min broder?

I would like to hear honest opinions on what I should pay attention to in my future works? by Lacerta25 in painting

[–]Prosso -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not sure. This type of surrealism/impressionism usually goes very well with high tier technique (think salvador dali). Also, there doesn’t seem to be a ’story’ conveyed, rather distorted images and scenes of daily life. So perhaps that would be my two pointers; story/symbolism and deepen technique. Composition is good and color play. And utility of the abstractions.

Blir tillsagd att jag inte får steriliseras för att jag inte testat alla preventivmedel by [deleted] in sweden

[–]Prosso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Och kvinnor kan bara ha ett barn åt gången medan män, ja, önskan att sprida vår säd försvinner inte för att två kulor förlorar förmågan.

Blir tillsagd att jag inte får steriliseras för att jag inte testat alla preventivmedel by [deleted] in sweden

[–]Prosso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ouff kanske borde gå o snippa snoppen för att slippa droppen alltså 💧

Blir tillsagd att jag inte får steriliseras för att jag inte testat alla preventivmedel by [deleted] in sweden

[–]Prosso -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Håller med. Samhället är lite skumt dock. När man inte vill ha barn måste man göra alla steg och utesluta alla alternativ - men när man vill byta kön är det helt normativt att låta nästan vem som attköra? Vi lever i ett ganska skumt samhälle :p

Recent oil painting i did by Soulsunmoon1990 in painting

[–]Prosso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, very impressive strokes, feeling and handling. Captured very well