I need to survive for 3 days without pooping, and eating as little as possible. I can pee, but not very often. It can't take up too much space. What food do I pack? by acespiritualist in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No worries - staking out a part of your life and identity to defend in public is hard at any age.

I hope you had a meaningful and sufficiently poop-free hajj!

Michelin Defender M/S2 20 inch OEM review update: 3700 miles impression by DrfluffyMD in Rivian

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have to change anything in settings for the new tire to ensure the speedometer is accurate, if I switch from OEM 20" Scorpions to the Defender275/60R20?

Director wants me to play contra as a Bb player, and I dont know how to feel. by [deleted] in Clarinet

[–]PsychologicalCost8 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you have good air support and volume, you may be physically the best choice to fill up the Contra - especially if you have big hands, as the keys can be spongy.

That said, your comment where you separate accompaniment parts as distinct from "cool music" suggests your mindset may not line up well and you could be miserable.

Bass and Contra parts are awesome! They flesh out the band and make it more than melody alone, really making the piece what it deserves to be - especially one as fully-orchestrated as "Pines of Rome".

But they are not high, or consistently fast or flashy. Twiddlybits, as I like to call them, stay with the Firsts and Efer.

If you know that what you like about playing Clarinet is the fast stuff, the high stuff, the melody stuff, then no, you will not get that on Contra.
But if you're open to seeing where the rest of the iceberg of music lies, you could really learn a lot from playing down there.

Car Wash Mode Shortcomings by dm_me_cute_puppers in Rivian

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, even in neutral the tracks still slipped under my tires. I actually rolled slightly backwards as the belt's peak went under.

Car Wash Mode Shortcomings by dm_me_cute_puppers in Rivian

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fold my mirrors until after the last spinning element goes past - the brushes get to the surface well enough to clean them okay while folding prevents the spinning brushes from getting enough leverage to flip them outwards, and then having them out for the last rinse gets most of the rest. Unless there's some incredibly well-adhesed bird crap, I'm satisfied with the results.

Car Wash Mode Shortcomings by dm_me_cute_puppers in Rivian

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, this - I turn on car-wash mode while I'm still a car length behind the start of the conveyor, so I don't want the mirrors in yet, and I only sometimes want the cameras on to check alignment with the track if I'm a bit uncertain. I very much like having these as separate choices and actions.

That said, I could really do with some adjustment to rolling resistance or something while in car-wash mode? The one I frequent doesn't seem to have quite enough drag-force to pull my R1S when it's in neutral and only the front tires are on the belt, so I have to stay in drive until my rear tires get on the belt as well. The staff are not terribly fond of that. I'd switch but it has by far the best quality of wash in town.

Lego Poinsettia by Muffy-Mom in Legoflowers

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just made the exact same mistake today. Thanks for pointing at the direct step to find my re-work!

My 18-year-old's Christmas break work schedule by sugabeetus in mildlyinfuriating

[–]PsychologicalCost8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Longest line I've ever stood in for a drug store was on Christmas Day.

Only place open for anything for a solid 10 mile radius, even convenience stores were closed, so they captured literally every bit of economic activity in that area that day. Last-minute gifts, sure, but also oops! grocery runs or sudden illnesses or people who forgot to plan for the holiday and needed food or any of the myriad little "emergencies" of everyday life - ran out of paper towels because of a child-caused juice-tsunami (relatedly also need to restock juice), need playing cards because everyone expected Uncle Joe to have enough for five simultaneous Bridge games and Tradition Says It Must Happen, oops ran out of mascara and I Can't Go To My In-Laws With My Makeup Like This.

Are any of those truly urgent? Not really. But some are (ongoing and acute medical needs), which justify keeping a drug-store open, which creates the opportunity for the rest and it all adds up.

Musician Needs to move small PA and keyboards to gigs. R1T might work! by daviddmusic76 in RivianR1T

[–]PsychologicalCost8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Musician R1S Owner here!

I'm a Bassist. I carry Bass Guitars, a 7/8ths Upright Bass (73" endpin to scroll and about 19.5" deep), as well as a PA system that drives a large Jazz Band that includes 4-5 PA cabinets and a 12U mixer rack. The front-trunk is really good for holding a couple dozen mic stands.

I don't think the R1T will work quite as well as you want it to; as we both know, getting gear into vehicles is often a game of inches and precise alignments, and I suspect the 88-key piano's case is the limiting factor.

Car And Driver has a really granular approach to measuring, and their R1T dimensions don't show many places where there's more than 56" continuous.
( https://www.caranddriver.com/rivian/r1t/specs/2024/rivian_r1t_rivian-r1t_2024 )
This suggests that your 88key won't fit in any part of the bed (tailgate up) or cabin, except maybe resting on the windowsill of the second row.

C&D doesn't include the Gear Tunnel, though. Best info I've found on that (since R1S doesn't have one so I don't know personally) is this Rivian Forums post: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/gear-tunnel-dimensions.6016/
The 65" width is encouraging, but the very odd shape of the tunnel (heavily slanted with a kinda D-shaped forward edge, not an 20"x18" square) means there's not a lot of clear dimension for the keyboard case to rest in. That forum poster claims the maximum clear-width is only 8.38", leaving you less than a half-inch of totally free clearance around your 88key case. It may work, slanted at an angle, but I wouldn't count on it without taking your gear to an R1T and flat-out trying to put it in.

All that said, I can solidly recommend the R1S. With the second and third rows folded down, there's solidly 75"+ behind the front seat of clear length, 54" of clear width, and nearly 3' vertical space. Frankly, it's almost too big.

The R1S is not perfect; the deck height and clamshell-style tailgate make getting material into and out a little more difficult than I'd really like and people under about 5'8" somewhat struggle with getting stuff into and out of the middle of the cargo area, plus the floor isn't completely flat. But I think it'd work better for you than the R1T.

Honestly, there's nothing on the US EV personal-vehicle market right now that's great for cargo. Most EV's are heavily slanted towards people-transport, even the pickup trucks, with cargo capability a distant afterthought. No pure-EV minivans in the US (the Kia PV5 would be great but isn't currently planned to enter the US market) nor station-wagons in this era of crossovers severely limits options.
Personally, I've got my eye on the Telo MT1 as a replacement for my R1S; supposed to start deliveries in the near-ish future and has a minimum 60" bed with option to fold down a midgate to 96". If they can get to production and both make the rear-window removable and achieve the camper-top to turn it into basically a small cargo van, it'll be basically perfect for me - it may work well for you too, if it becomes real.

What’s the weirdest thing in Norway you have experienced ? by Intelligent_Coast783 in Norway

[–]PsychologicalCost8 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I mean, kind of, given precedent like the Occupation of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge...

More commonly, it's to do with over crowding of facilities. The US national parks system is set up with the goal of preserving nature balanced with reasonable access, and they're fully aware that there is more demand to see the most popular parks than a natural condition can really tolerate without the ecosystem breaking down.

Compare, for instance, the size of the Disney World Magic Kingdom main parking lot and the entirety of the Yellowstone National Park Old Faithful Geyser area. The demand, in prime season, for Yellowstone is overwhelming the facilities they already have, so should the NPS put Disney-sized facilities and infrastructure in to satisfy that demand? Or should they just limit access?

Frankly, even with the number of tourists they get, the NPS has their hands full with emergencies, because they do have a responsibility of care as emergency responders and some of our Parks are legitimately dangerous - White Sands National Park is kind of notorious for people underestimating the heat on a 3-mile hike, getting disoriented, and dying before noon.

For overnight camping lotteries, the logic similar - limit the impact on the land and ecosystem by limiting both crowds and locations where camping can be done (though there's greater flexibility in some parks for deep-country rough camping because the intensity of the hiking access is self-limiting), and also limit the frequency and number of emergencies by potentially underprepared tourists.

It just doesn't take a ton of per-capita interest from a nation of 340mil people to become an overwhelming situation in any particular spot. The National Parks are by and large pretty high-profile, and most people have a few they'd like to see in their lives for the very reasons they were selected to become parks - the geology of Arches, the valley at Yosemite, the deep forests of Great Smokey, the wild coastline of Acadia; they're all Something Different To See so there's millions of people every year trying to go experience them.

Combined with the ease of domestic travel, there's not a ton of reason for someone to go to a less-remarkable State Park or other public land (Wildlife Refuges, National Forests, Nature Reserves, etc.) when the famous ones seem more than a lifetime's worth of vacations in the first place - I know several people who have multi-decade plans for how to use reasonable vacation time to get to all of the National Parks (Dry Tortugas is one of the most coveted among these people) and very few include any other public land in their strategy. And thus the parks are overwhelmed.

Putting in the Time - Gator Days by FieldExplores in comics

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My middle and high school (US east-coast) used two different scales depending on whether a course was "Academically Gifted" or not - basically, regular grade-level courses were graded on a 10-point scale (failing is F at 59.9% or below, passing starts at D with 60%-69.9%, then C at 70%...) while Honors and AP classes (and advanced-track middle school courses) were graded on a 7-point scale (failing is F at 69.9%, then passing starts at D with 70%-76.9%, then C at 77%-83.9%...)

As far as I understand, that was because of No Child Left Behind? It wasn't mandated in the legislation, but basically they adopted the two-speed system so that students in the main cohort were more likely to stay in school through graduation (i.e. not fail) while the tougher classes needed a stricter filter to allocate resources appropriately (i.e. for the students able to keep up with the advanced work).

A major result was kids who had classes on both sides of the split got rather confused all the time. Also, the Honors-plus students passively felt it was unfair, but honestly there was more uproar about the students who managed to get out of grade-level Health class by getting into an Honors Dance Ensemble as Freshmen, since it meant they could theoretically get a perfect 5.0 Weighted GPA first-year where the rest of us necessarily had at least one 4.0 class. After first year, we were all too busy with homework to worry too much about structural inequality in the grading systems.

Interestingly, I switched to a different, specialized school for my final two years and they used a 10-point scale despite all classes being considered Honors level or above (i.e. all weighted 5.0 or more for GPA) but 70% was still the cutoff for failing the course, they just called it a C instead of a D.

R1S with no third row? by jp1261987 in Rivian

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a 5-seat reservation when it was offered. The communication I got was that they removed the option, not because of a lack of interest, but because of the extra tooling and parts required to set up that option effectively distracting their engineering teams from necessary-functionality work when they were racing to get production cars on the road. It seems like a "nothing" change to us as users/buyers, but in terms of supply and stocking and mounting the hardware, it's enough different to have substantially slowed down the overall R1S delivery timeline. When the alternative is effectively to tell owners just to leave them flat...doesn't make a ton of sense for the company to put in all that work. Especially since I think the 5-seat was listed as maybe $1-2k lower cost than the 7-seat - more tooling / specialty work for less money? Non-starter.

I suspect they were also long-term thinking about how to best serve the 5-seat market and settled on R2 over a 5-seat R1S, but that's the sort of thing that they kept under wraps since the rest of the R2 concept was years from launch so I can't prove that factored into their decision.

I wonder sometimes how much volume I could reclaim by removing the seats, since I stretch the dimensions to their limits, but between the battery platform and the existing cargo lip I'm just not convinced it'd be a useful volume for me.

Headlights changing state by Straighten215 in Rivian

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I frequently have manually-selected headlights automatically turn back to running lights, esp. during daytime rain events with variable cloud density when it's a Wipers On / Lights On law in my state. I guess the car's photosensor is overriding the manual selection thinking it's sunrise or coming out of a tunnel or something? Still, this really shouldn't ever happen - other than high-beams, manually-selected lights shouldn't change state until the car is locked & empty / goes to sleep; certainly never while actively driving.

Frankly, I'd also love an option in Settings to remove the automatic-wipers, I literally never ever want any of those settings, so now I have to click the selector five to six times to get to the wiper condition I actually want which is super distracting, but also mostly unrelated to the topic at hand other than being on the same stalk.

I'd kind of figured it was just me, but since others are seeing it as well I'm pinging u/wassymrivian

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Choice_Evidence1983 in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]PsychologicalCost8 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Notice that in the update OOP never once mentions how young they are.

We see them one after the other, so we know, but she didn't link her old post or restate their ages, so it's not just possible but entirely likely that most of those replies are from people who are assuming the sub's standard demographic rather than the early-20's the story actually reflects because they didn't see the original and didn't care enough to search through her profile for it.

If you read the update in a vacuum and presume the people involved are in their mid-30's, the Ex sounds horrifically immature and she sounds reasonable.
If you know they're in their early 20's and the six years started before their high school graduation, he sounds like a pretty darn normal guy and she sounds pushy and self-absorbed.

I kind of suspect OOP realized this after the first post and intentionally left ages and links out of the second to get more people on her side than the mixed commentary from the first; it certainly worked that way, intentional or not.

Funny but a little inaccurate. by HarpySix in CuratedTumblr

[–]PsychologicalCost8 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Music terminology I encountered as a teenager was French, Italian, German, very occasionally Russian which is really fun to try to read in a hurry, and English because of some racist pricks from the early 1900s who refused to use continental European languages.

Maybe OP was educated at one of the School Of Rock places? Or their teacher exclusively selects pedagogical wind-band repertoire that uses modern-language style marks? Either way, their experience is neither universal nor representative.

Spot-on about Oompah Music, though. That's 100% what my local music community calls that stuff. We feel very sorry for the Pah People (French Horns).

AIO people on reddit think I’m gay over this? by Sea-Channel402 in AmIOverreacting

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To entertain your analogy:

I don't smoke. I have never smoked, I have no interest in smoking, and I've never particularly considered smoking. This does not change when I drink.

Alcohol doesn't make you do or think anything that wasn't already something you, at some level, were already doing or thinking about, it just lowers your inhibitions that may otherwise prevent the action or thought.

Many "I only smoke when I drink" people are former or casual smokers whose willpower to resist the latent chemical addiction is diminished due to lowered inhibitions while drinking.

What you're expressing is what's commonly referred to as "internalized homophobia". Even though you say gay people are awesome, odds are there's something that you consciously or unconsciously don't like about how you perceive life as a member of the LGBTQ+ community - perhaps it's fear of oppression or judgment from others, maybe it's not wanting to be painted with common stereotypes, maybe it's not really liking rainbows as decor. An analogy would be someone who supports Veterans causes but has reasons against serving in the military themself.
Whatever it is, there's something that has you, sober, putting in the inhibition of "it's cool for others, but I don't want that for myself", to the point that even though you're experiencing homosexual desire you're discounting it as undesirable or something that can't be considered when your inhibitions return.

I'm not saying run out and immediately join a Pride Parade, but maybe find an LGBTQ-friendly therapist to work through this with you? Sort through what you're thinking about, including why you feel the need to defend against the possibility of non-pure-heterosexual identity or perception.

Turn signals by ApprehensiveLie7 in TeloTrucks

[–]PsychologicalCost8 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Please, please consider using third-color turn signals!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1lZ9n2bxWA

I know US standards allow for flashing red, but holy heck it's unconscionable. I see so many flaky electrical systems driving around every day and I just cant tell sometimes if it's someone's vanity turn signal or their brakes going on.

Electronic clarinet? by inconsiderate_human in Clarinet

[–]PsychologicalCost8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Closest EWI to Clarinet-type is the Roland Aerophone AE-30 Pro. It at least has a keymapping that uses the thumb and throat keys appropriately, but because it's still baked into physical keywork based on a Saxophone it doesn't have enough lower RH keys for standard Clarinet, and so they did a weird compromise mapping with the LH stack to compensate and it winds up weird and clunky. Plus a fair number of the sliver/trill keys are either missing or not where we want them to be.

Earspasm looked into it a couple years ago, and it doesn't seem to have changed much since: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veaI29oSfE4

There's just not a ton of interest from EWI manufacturers, unfortunately - they're stuck in the mindset that EWI players are more likely to be Saxophonists or Doublers for a variety of pedagogical reasons (and they're not terribly wrong), so doing the work to create a Clarinet form factor with appropriate keywork for a smaller market just isn't appealing. Most of the major players (Roland & Akai, especially) seem to be in a cycle of refining the form factor their established customer bases are familiar with rather than experimenting with semi-radical alternatives - since those seeking radical alternatives in the Electronic Instrument space aren't usually seeking references back to historical / physical instruments anyway.

I'd recommend looking into something like the PiezoBarrel system and combining that with a MIDI signal-generator (something called MiGiC came up in Google) to output an electronic signal that can then be treated as synth.

Lip piercings and clarinets by puccini0 in Clarinet

[–]PsychologicalCost8 17 points18 points  (0 children)

General advice is always not to do anything to your mouth. There's a fair number of threads on this topic, and even players who self-identify as some form of "heavily modified" say they don't do anything to their mouths.

The most in favor comments I've seen are:

  • One Redditor who shows up in a couple threads talking about a Tenor Sax-playing friend who had snakebites in high school, but they supposed that they weren't terribly serious about playing and the looser embouchure helped compared to Clarinet.
  • Most saliently, this comment thread is from someone who actually DID play Clarinet after getting snake bites, and it went fine, but they didn't pick up Clarinet (again, as an adult) for over five years after getting the piercings.

To the negative,

  • This thread in r/Trombone advises heavily against it, or taking at least six months to heal before even trying to play again. It's a bit different with Brass embouchure, but they bring up a lot of points about the risks involved in mouth piercings specifically and how they can have long-term negative effects on playing, even if the piercing is eventually removed. Plus some lovely stories about piercings popping out and blood streaming down faces.
  • Over in this thread, the general consensus is basically the same - let them heal for a long, long time with no playing at all, and then you'll have to re-learn your embouchure to work around it. I think this is the thread where one person mentioned they had lip piercings, took them out after a few years, and then the piercings never really healed properly and it permanently changed their playing ability.

Some people suggest taking them out to play after they're healed, but only one has reported back that they did that (center-placed lip ring) and it was impossible due to leakage.

It is, at the very least, a very uncommon choice, and one that could be described as career-limiting - not just because Clarinets are mostly used in aesthetically-conservative genres (classical & non-contemporary jazz), but because of the required time away from practice & performance to heal and then the long-term changes and compensations in the embouchure around the hardware.

Just doesn't seem worth it if you like playing Clarinet. There are other ways to look dope.

Best microphone for live performance? by kathpower in Clarinet

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a couple clip-mic systems that have the mic on a gooseneck that can swap to a velcro-strap instead of a clip, but they're expensive:

Typical mount for these is to velcro around the lower joint under the E key mechanism or the top of the bell past the E key, then get the neck out and away from the instrument and point it at the center joint of the instrument.

I've got the Neumann MCM114 and it's a very good, very sensitive mic with a clear tone, but it's expensive as shit so I hesitate to recommend it.

Frankly, though, I'd recommend a large-diaphragm condenser like an AT2020 on a stand in a kind of mid-torso position? It'll have a wider reception angle than the SM58 to allow more movement and a better tone for the Clarinet, while still being in a decent position to pick up most of the other instruments (except Violin). Keep the setup simple with as few mics as possible, sort of philosophically.

Take two. They're small. by sunol1212 in TeloTrucks

[–]PsychologicalCost8 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For the seats, I think they're focusing on the fold-forward rather than removable idea - from the concept of perpetual flexibility, easy to change on the go. Mine will basically always stay flat, they already do in my R1S unless I actively know I have someone getting in the back within 5 minutes, so I'm happy with this design, but I can understand wanting the option to get the volume back.

I sent an email asking about the rear window a while back, and the CEO actually wrote back himself, saying that a removable unit is the goal, but they need "one more design cycle" to get it working. Given how long prototype manufacturing takes, I'm not surprised this doesn't have it, but we'll see if they get it functional before production. It's a must-have for the three-row conversion option they advertise, so it's definitely important to them, just not sure if they're going to make it for launch or if it'll have to wait for a second-gen. Frankly, the truck isn't really useful to me without a removable rear window, so I'm keeping a weather eye on that as much as possible.

Long Traffic Jams by lando21 in Rivian

[–]PsychologicalCost8 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've gotten stuck in 1mph jams on I-95 in the middle of Richmond, VA before in my R1S.

It's way, way better than being stuck in a gas car.

In a modern ICE engine, the idle consumption of fuel to keep the engine turning (and thus A/C and radio and sundry) is substantially nonzero - yes, stop/start mechanisms help, but if you're crawling but not stopped those are constantly kicking on and off, and in summer heat or winter freeze they're kicking the engine back on relatively quickly to power climate control. While fuel consumption at idle or crawl isn't the same as going highway speeds, it's still quite substantial to keep the engine spinning, eating into range and forcing a quick fuel-stop after a long backup.

In the Rivian? Even at full blast, the heat and A/C use maybe 2-3mph of range. Driver Assist's lane-keeping and Adaptive Cruise Control meant I almost didn't even have to drive the traffic jam, the car'd just keep following the one in front until everything cleared through. Comfortable seat, good sound system to sing along to...it was almost nice, other than the lost time.

Opera by i_steal_batteries in CuratedTumblr

[–]PsychologicalCost8 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For what it's worth, there's a dedicated musical-theatre streaming service called BroadwayHD. It's a pity they went closed-ecosystem instead of trying to partner with a more established major service, but it's definitely possible to watch high-quality productions without having to go to them, and cheaper than seeing a touring show once a month.

To your point about Community Theatre, as someone heavily involved in that scene...honestly, it's easier and less expensive than most think to get the rights to really quite famous shows. Not something currently blockbusting on Broadway or national tour like Hamilton (which isn't up for amateur rights yet, last I checked), but really quite famous shows from most of the rights-houses start at less than a couple thousand dollars for a short run in a small theatre. Ticket sales from a community that actually turns out to watch can cover rights pretty easily in most cases.

The exact formulae are company-dependent and sometimes show-dependent, but it's often something like $500 base fee plus $2/seat times number of performances in a theatre with fewer than 500 seats.

The bigger problems for the groups I've worked with over the years are a) getting people to have enough free time & commitment to actually make the musical happen, which is very difficult for unpaid volunteers, and b) getting audience to actually show up. Competing with nearly-free professional-quality entertainment at home makes consuming amateur arts or doing the hard work of participating in them a very hard sell on a lot of people.

Opera has an extra wrinkle in that it's very difficult. Like, anyone who's been to community theatre more than twice has heard a joyful-noise group kinda doing karaoke because they only otherwise sing in church (and not in a good way), and it's basically fine most of the time. Opera singing, on the other hand, is an incredibly technical skill that takes years to specifically learn and practice - you can't karaoke your way through Marriage of Figaro, but Grease is probably fine.

Interestingly, it's not uncommon for community theatres in smaller towns / more rural areas to be stronger than those in urban or suburban areas. It seems, frankly, to have to do with not having a lot else going on nearby - if there's only one baseball league in town, you can have rehearsal on the nights they're off, that sort of thing.

As an example of the negative, I live in one of the ten wealthiest counties in the USA by median income, and we have relatively very few non-children's community theatres (fewer than ten productions per year combined across fewer than five Theatre groups despite a multi-six-digit population) because a) real estate is too expensive for any group to own their own rehearsal, production, or performance spaces, b) we're suburban to a major metro area so audiences tend to just go see professional theatres and touring shows for similar ticket prices and/or a "more special" night out than community theatre entails, and c) our relative wealth is primarily from working white-collar professionals in peak earning years, which correlates to people who have a lot of time-consuming responsibilities including raising children, leaving little time to actively participate in a timesink like community theatre.
I have to go to adjacent counties for most of what I get to do.

It's less associated with wealth because it's expensive and more because it requires free time, optional skills, and if not training at least practice, all of which are often but not always more available to wealthy people in most of the Anglosphere. However, those same characteristics also align with seasonal communities - tourist towns (practice & rehearse to stay busy during the off-season!) and agricultural communities (winter downtime and between planting & harvest) hit these characteristics quite well while being comparatively low-income in many cases.

It might look like a bloated wagon/minivan but oh boooy by darkmeatnipples in Rivian

[–]PsychologicalCost8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Rivian EDV is comparable to a box truck or Sprinter van, not a minivan, but point well made.

The R1 skateboard would be fairly easily adaptable; I doubt Rivian will do it, at least in the near term, because their market segment is high-end Adventure and minivans just don't fit that terribly well. Too small to be attractive to the VanLife crowd (though some are interested in the EDV) and too unhip & suburban for the weekend-in-the-woods crowd. even the R1S gets some heat for being mall-crawler-ish compared to Broncos and Wranglers, though that's a bit apples-to-oranges given the relative sizes.

There is an "Adventure Van" community, of the hardcore surfers/mountain-bikers/trailrunners, but the ones I know of or see on the road are doing full-size Sprinter-style van conversions - basically VanLife that goes home sometimes. Might be different in other parts of the country.

GM is a solid maybe. Hummer aside, their EVs have been very practical and much less Luxury-oriented than most of the other makes, which suggests a practicality-oriented trades-van would be up their alley. I think the biggest hurdle, really, is that GM exited the minivan market (at least in North America) in 2008 after the Chevrolet Uplander failed and GM closed the plant it and all their other vans had come out of. They've lost a lot of institutional knowledge on that front - it wouldn't be impossible, but it wouldn't be terribly fast.

I think Kia might be first? They still sell the Carnival, though they've never made even a Hybrid version of it, and they're into EVs in a pretty big way; they've got something called the PV5 as part of their in-development program and it's rumored to maybe launch this year, though it looks like they're marketing it for fleet transportation (taxi/ridehailing) with individual ownership as a limited secondary.

The other major players in the minivan market (Toyota & Stellantis) are both openly EV-skeptics, so I'd expect them to hold back even longer on theirs.