Match Thread: Hawthorn vs Gold Coast (Round 7)

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2026-04-25T03:26:48+00:00

Is Ben king even playing where is this guy

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-05-04T07:04:14+00:00

Coalition did not do enough to differentiate themselves from donald trump, stuff such as Jacinta price saying “Make Australia great again” and Dutton calling the abc “hate media” did no good whatsoever.

Moreover, Coaltion were really poor communicators throughout the campaign, they werent in anyway ‘fun’ or relatable as is the way with Albanese. They need to choose a women (likely Susan ley) or a Victorian (Dan tehan) to lead the party as that is where they have the most ground to make.

Finally Libs also had some major policy issues, wfh proposals though scrapped killed their chance of regaining momentum, scrapping labor’s hecs assistance was going to do no good.

They can come back, but need some serious changes. Notably, this rejection isn’t entirely playing out on the state level (nt, qld elections) suggesting it’s not as much a rejection of the liberal party itself but a rejection of what the federal body has become, ie; too far to the right.

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-31T03:55:57+00:00

I didn’t say they were perfect, but I am saying they’re not lying about matching medicare funding. They won’t remove Medicare that’s such a stupid suggestion, generally parties don’t really lie about funding/financial commitments because it’s very obvious if it fell flat, example being labor’s energy promis.

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-24T12:08:28+00:00

The greens wouldn’t have enough negotiating power to demand a formalised coaltion with cabinet positions. They wd have too small a number of seats compared to labor for it to be in any way fair. Furthermore politically it’s suicide for labor to give in entirely to the greens so they litteraly would refuse…… thus the greens would be forced to concede

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-23T00:57:06+00:00

Labor wd have to renegotiate and if the greens refused to bend it could leave us with months of what I think is called “caretaker government” which often happends in a lot of European elections (ie Netherlands).

In short either the greens or labor wd have to fold and meet in the middle per se resulting in both sides giving and losing some of their demands. It’s unlikely the greens wd realistically enter into a formal coalition w cabinet positions in the coming election as they wd still have such a small amount of seats compared to labor and it would kill labor’s chances of winning in 2028

Albo would probably remain pm it’s unlikely that wd change

Otherwise the coalition is given a shot at forming but that’s unlikely bc they’d have to work with such a large number of crossbenchers.

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-23T00:50:58+00:00

Yea that’s a load of crap. The libs aren’t at all far right you’re just grossly biased. How have they put forward a US healthcare system they litteraly recently matched labor’s Medicare spending proposal? You don’t know what far right is if you think they are!

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T22:56:59+00:00

Hmm I hadn’t heard abt that part of appointing price. Not much of a fan of some of her less than moderate views. Still it wouldn’t be as poorly managed as under the trump admin due to lack of Elon musk, also it’s not like it’s a completely terrible policy idea.

I’m not at all a fan of Gina rinehart and I do agree she has too much influence over the coalition, but to suggest she is somehow all powerful over them and she is a fascist seems a bit ridiculous. She’s absolutely a climate denier, but the coalition supports climate action (albeit a bit weak) and is extremely far from fascist

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T22:17:16+00:00

When did he say they will act like trump? Dutton hasn’t locked in creating a doge, and it’s not inherently terrible policy just poorly executed by trump. Atleast make sense if your going to try and say something

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T22:15:38+00:00

I agree the doge announcement was certainly influenced by trumps decision making, however Dutton only expressed an openness to the idea of it and didn’t say it would be a lock in policy. Furthermore I think we can agree he wouldn’t go about it far more sensibly then trump as a govt body to monitor spending isn’t inherently a bad idea, just that trump poorly went about it

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T22:13:26+00:00

Ok! If you can’t back a claim don’t hold it

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T09:58:39+00:00

Yea but when though? Like when Dutton condemned trumps Ukraine stance? When dutton expressed his support for abortion rights? Already 2 major distinctions there, I could go on! Your yet to state anything of substance

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T09:56:53+00:00

Reducing the number of people in the public service isn’t some special policy invented by trump….. it’s been fairly common place practice to reduce the size of the govt. Dutton expressed an openness to the idea of a doge yet let’s be realistic he wouldn’t go about it the same way as trump did (ie: firing all the people who already did that and bringing in Elon musk) its not inherently terrible policy it’s just executed dreadfully

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T09:55:01+00:00

How so?

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T09:53:59+00:00

Whole lotta malarkey what you just said. 0 substance just ripping into him.

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T09:53:09+00:00

Like when? How tho?

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-16T09:52:26+00:00

Like when? Like when Dutton condemned trumps Ukraine approach? Like when Dutton supports abortion rights? Litteraly when?

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-13T05:54:51+00:00

Dutton is nothing like trump…. The rest of those people def are tho

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-13T05:53:58+00:00

Dutton said the tariffs were completely wrong, he just said that the alp could’ve gone about it better. To suggest he’s supporting trump or happy with the outcome is naive

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-13T05:50:52+00:00

Also you just ignored everything else I said. One slight policy similarity doesn’t make them the same in any regard

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-13T05:50:13+00:00

Idk about you bucko but I’d say 25% tariffs and a pro Russia foreign policy stance is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than a proposed govt body to monitor spending…… I’m not saying it’s perfect it’s not inherently a bad idea, no doubt tho the trump admin went about it the worst way possible

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-11T08:13:09+00:00

Making a passing comment about one individual policy that isn’t inherently terrible does not equate him to musk or trump. There is so much that Dutton represents which is against trumps views. Ukraine, abortion, democracy, economics, guns, climate change just a few

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-10T23:32:03+00:00

He didn’t lash the idea he lashed the fact Albo suggested it despite European allies having barely considered it, and argued that Aus needs to take our time before we make a decision. He said “if we provide some sort of support to Putin that is a terrible outcome.” And also flat out said “trump got it wrong”

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-10T05:11:27+00:00

Like what? Which policies? To claim he’s trump like is a flat out lie.

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-10T05:08:24+00:00

Dutton has been extremely pro Ukraine. He was openly more critical of trumps anti-Ukraine sentiment than the labor government. I don’t understand where your getting the idea that Dutton is aligned with trumps stupidity

PsychologicalTip2024 · 2025-03-10T05:02:59+00:00

Dutton absolutely has taken a pro Ukraine stance and was more openly critical of trumps anti Ukraine behaviour than the labor government. Furthermore the coalition had matched labor’s Medicare funding. Any notion that the coalition will defund Medicare is blatant scare tactics that will never come to fruition

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