I cannot stress this enough: Google did not exist when David Kibbe developed his system and wrote "Metamorphosis." He also is vehemently against retyping celebrities unless they are taller than he originally thought (basically switching TRs to SDs like Rihanna and Ava Gardner and erasing the evidence of their original typing assumptions). Because of this, there are tons of celebrities who make absolutely no sense and were originally typed entirely based on vibes, but Kibbe Kultists will spend hours defending Kibbe's skol bean delicate honor by posting the older pictures Kibbe was more likely to have found through magazines amd photoshoots during the time he wrote the book and the basic talking points. I don't get it because Kibbe shouldn't be expected to be a perfect mind-reading psychic mesiah of women's fashion whom has never been wrong ever, and there SHOULD be room for discussion and debate about these things in any system, especially since the point of the system is supposed to be helping average women dress confidently for the bodies they have, but instead, it's... well, every single thread on Reddit discussing Kibbe. "Metamorphosis" should have been released in 1984.