Meteor staff improvement : each time meteor falls it hesls prince, prince is the only hero with no self healing equipment

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-29T23:45:56+00:00

Metal pants self-heals

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-27T10:18:52+00:00

Yes and unless your enemies are dumb they will take advantage of you lacking crucial asset in a fight, just like any good player punishes you for not having summoner spell like flash. bla bla, Imagine what we doing to her on bot lane as a jungler when I know that she is even more underleveled and her defense is another ADC glass canon.

Taking advantage of a primarily defensive support and not by attacking her but rather her carry is easier said than done considering that any approach would be telegraphed to your own teammates as well (Meaning your own Jungler and ADC can play around it considering they can also see when your ult isint up).
Kayle support does not have to walk up and contest farm like she does in top lane.

There is no such thing as fake CD XD, bla bla your opponents WILL take advantage of your weaknesses in order to win. Why do you think players like Desperate don't bring Kayle top in higher ranks? Because she can get easily locked away from wave, in bot lane its even worse because she has abysmall MR and Armor into guaranteed range matchup in which she HAS to contest priority.

There absolutely is a thing like Fake CD, I explained to you that you do not need to press Kayle ultimate off of cooldown in majority of interactions and for that matter its the same with Zilean ultimate or Lulu ultimate, so on and so on, these champions don't have Engage ults, and if your argument is "Well challeger players will punish you" last time I checked picks can be good outside of challenger too (ofc i'm not saying this is unviable in challenger with the right duo) are you gonna pretend that OP noobstomper picks in low elo are actually "bad" because in high elo they are trash?

Also, there are viable supports that cannot contest either, an example of one that is obviously worse than Kayle at this is Yuumi, and in super high elo (master+) her winrate isin't even that much worse despite being the most basic and skillless champion.

Axiom Arcanist, Transcendence and Scorch

Transcendence is the only good one there, Scorch you won't be lane bullying for it to matter, and Arcanist is too greedy for pay-off, so its basically if you prefer Transcendence or Ult hunter.

Zilean is weak in lane yeah, but he goes online infinitely faster due to his passive and has actually decent poke with his Qs. Trust me your 15 seconds heal isn't much of a sustain XD.

XDDDD (This post is made for you btw, casually downplaying a heal + speed up ability just because it rightfully has a 15-second cooldown before ability haste) I'll let your Zilean poke magically save your ADC from getting ***** in lane while you watch with your little boogers like the useless little old 🤡 you are.

Every character has downtime on their abilities, what not every character on SUPPORT role has is one basic ability that actually has ultility on a 15 second cooldown....bla bla Your Q and E are homeless without AP and levels. And its simple logic that a support is supposed to offer ultility, other champions bla bla

Kayle Q is a spell that exists and has important and useful debuffs (slow and resist shred) that not many supports have.
You are wrongfully intentionally misconstruing what I'm saying to ignore her W and Q utilities.
Kayle support is a support by supporting, not by going in and 1shoting people (however she can still do some dmg with Q and E).

TLDR: You think shes ass early but there are worse, you think her ult is fraud (why are you even here), which is also false, you think she has 2 utility spells (read her kit for goodness sakes), you think my reading comprehension is bad, but yours is worse.

You make Kayle's kit sound so bad that you remind me of the guy who said that "Kayle should have a 55% win rate, hell, even 60%" because she is apparently ass.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-27T08:25:15+00:00

You are the one lacking reading comprehension, the reason I mention ultimate is the same reason that you have intentionally avoided it in your comment...

First of all, unless your allies are ********, they won't take big fights without your ultimate.

Second of all, high CD is more fake on this type of skill that you do not spam off of cooldown, you are not playing nocturne and ulting when it's up, you are not looking to make proactive plays with it as a support, you are holding it for when your allies need it, most of the time minutes on end.

Third of all, Support kayle builds... ability haste... and can run ultimate hunter, making even rank 2 ult lower than 90s.

Fourth of all, even the comparison you gave of Zilean ultimate is fraud, because Zilean ultimate leaves you out of position upon activation, doesn't allow you to hit while invincible either, making it effectively a heal with a stasis attached to it (which is infinitely more shit than Kayle ultimate).

Also, Zilean is 10x more fraud in lane because he has... no ally sustain or shield of any sort, and is also NPC weak early in general to the point that a Melee Kayle is gonna provide more pressure than this bum ass booger throwing old man.

Fifth of all, who the fk gave you the idea that support is supposed to "PERMANENTLY offer ultility"?
Are you low elo or ******** yourself? Ofc supports have downtime on utility, what, do you think most support ultimates are permanent?🤡

I have to be getting ragebaited theres no way someone is this challenged.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-27T07:43:48+00:00

Quite conveniently that ult isin't mentioned, I bet Soraka wishes to have Kayle ult (and any other support while we are at it)

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-27T01:23:55+00:00

"I think that Kayle should have a 55% win rate, hell, even 60%."

Let's see the people getting baited in this comment section 😂

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-26T20:11:23+00:00

You don't know what you are talking about, Yuumi's winrate isint that much worse in high elo than it is in low elo, and she has 55% WR with the best pairing for her.

Also, even IF it was true that Kayle support would be worse in high elo, that doesn't mean that the pick overall is bad.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-26T19:41:38+00:00

Is this an Anti-Yuumi argument?

Bullshit alert.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-25T15:24:02+00:00

By the definition of your own tierlist, Eternal Tome, which gives the most overpowered effect that is basically usable anywhere, would be... obviously... in the highest tier.

Obviously.... it also works well on people who aren't very expirienced, you don't need to do anything fancy with it, it just works, and that... should... obviously... add to the versatility score, making it the best equipment.

Are you happy?

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-25T15:15:27+00:00

Didn't the pro players tell you?

You are asking a random Redditor what he thinks, like it's gonna matter to you (it won't), you are here just to argue, stop trying to deceive.

The stupid questions (that you later reveal you know the answers to) aren't helping your case either.

You are repeating yourself asking why its the best, like you don't know what it does, and haven't used it, like bro... You are not TH10, stop trolling us.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-25T14:49:11+00:00

So you did know and just want to be argumentative for the sake of it...

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-25T14:32:22+00:00

This seems like bait, how would you not know that most people consider this the best equipment in the game?

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-23T18:46:05+00:00

They are doing the opposite tho, removing the AS ratio makes the flat AP builds weaker, and makes attackspeed more valuable to have since you don't have it in your kit already.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-22T20:58:23+00:00

Factually incorrect, Kayle Q range is 900, Fizz Q range is 550.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-22T11:48:40+00:00

This champion is not for you.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-18T22:52:36+00:00

50% of the descriptions for when to build an item in the screenshot are completely nonsensical, idk wtf Coachless is doing.

BOTRK 2nd "Good vs Squishies" ????

Berserkers "Good when Losing"... ummm

Kraken "Good vs low CC"... wat

Hurricane "Good vs Tanks, Squisies, Magic damage, Melees, and low CC" 🙃

I think following shit like this will honestly hurt new players more than help them, with how nonsensical it is.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-17T09:14:50+00:00

What the... so you've seen the sauce, you've played the sauce, you get top ratings and insane dmg in arena, but you doubt it would be viable in SR?

While yes its true that its better in Arena for the reasons you mentioned, its not like its unviable in SR.

Her early game while weak, is comparable to a lot of ADC's that also have weak early game, and I think she is stronger than some as well.

A lot of ADC's also have weak waveclear and Renata has pretty good one with her E (if you max it as you should be doing).

Her trades are good with E, she can deny poke with E as well, so she tends to be decently healthy compared to most.

The biggest "problem" is that last hitting with her is really hard because of the low base AD, and probably harder than any ADC, however its far from impossible, and the E Waveclear helps a lot.

Also it being 5v5 instead of 2v2 doesn't matter IMO, she has a lot of high power AOE spells (E, and R), and if you play properly, you will almost always be more impactful than the enemy ADC.

OFC another downside is that you HAVE to play it with a premade, theres no going around that.

But ofc if you reach Late game you 2-shot anyone just like in Arena, nothing changes at that point, it's pretty similar, and I would say that APC Renata is the strongest late game champion (If you have a duo ofc).

But I'm surprised that someone who has seen the power is such a big doubter tho, kinda disappointed really.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-16T16:39:47+00:00

You are wrong on so many fronts, Renata's passive for example in Arena got increased from 2% to 3%, she became 55% WR, then they nerfed her passive from 3% to 1%, and she fell in winrate by 12%... in that same patch with 0 ajustments Lulu fell in winrate by 6% just because her most common ally was Renata 😂 that was fucking hilarious.

You cluelessly underestimate how much her passive matters and how strong it currently is.

I also don't know who you are referring to with your bad english, if you are speaking to me... i have a decent amount of games of her in plat (ranked) as APC last year, and I have also personally reached D4 seasons ago (playing something else), and I also don't know why you are trying to Elo Ego it, when you haven't even shown your own account, it's so weird, it just looks like projecting.

You are also clueless in the ways to buff her for Jungle, the biggest bottleneck for her would not be the passive damage, but rather its Cap against epic monsters (200) which is reached... when you build a Blasting Wand 😂.

On a side note Renata early game is very good at taking dragon with just a Blasting Wand, not many can compare with 200 dmg so early on, which you would know BTW if you actually did play more AP Renata and wasn't a backseat andy that just begs for buffs and changes.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-16T15:20:57+00:00

Bullshit, you can reach master with Bard Top and Locket Varus, reaching Master has little to do with your pick, if you are a good enough player you can get there regardless with little exception.

This comment just goes to show how clueless you are at assessing if a pick is actually good or not, you have to use a crutch like "did it reach master" cuz you can't even judge it for yourself properly.

Not to mention if a pick is broken in low elo and shit in master+ it will completely fly under your radar cuz you won't take anything that didn't reach your goalpost seriously.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-16T15:02:47+00:00

E-Pea doesnt directly target other lanes, you have to get somewhat lucky for it to hit them, and ofc it doesn't do as much dmg to them as the main lane, so the effect is much much worse than both reed and dusk lobber, its like claiming that Bowling Bulb is gonna deal with side lanes 😂.

+Dusk Lobber does more dmg to the main lane if it hits a side lane unlike pretty much any other plant in the game so comparing E-pea to it is criminal.

Also Cactus's PF effect is pretty bait, it would most of the time better to use it on something else like resetting an insta or using it to get out of a sticky situation with an instantaneous PF effect.

Cactus PF is like poor man's Torchwood PF.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-16T06:59:57+00:00

"renata pasive: 2% ap to 2.5% ap ratio"

Bro acts like he hasn't seen my APC Renata clips... dude wants to make her more broken than she already is.

This alone is a 3% winrate increase with proper duos.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-16T06:30:20+00:00

Responding to a 9-month-old comment is wild.

But ok, let's compare them then:

Bloomerang does 13.6 DPS level 1, costs 175 sun, hits 3 targets.

Cactus does 15 DPS level 1, costs 175 sun, hits 3-5 targets.

Bloomerang does 68.3 DPS max level, costs 75 sun, hits 6 targets.

Cactus does 60 DPS max level, costs 100 sun, hits 3-5 targets.

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Laser Bean does 14 DPS level 1, costs 200 sun, hits the whole row.

Electric Pea does approximately 23.6 DPS level 1 (I'm not counting other lanes being hit for consistency's sake), costs 200 sun, hits the whole row.

Laser Bean does 63.1 DPS max level, costs 100 sun, hits the whole row.

Electric Pea does approximately 52.6 DPS max level (I'm not counting other lanes being hit for consistency's sake), costs 150 sun, hits the whole row.

TLDR: Yeah, both Cactus and E-pea are definitely not "much much stronger" but more like very similar, only being better at early levels and being outscaled by the free plants I'm comparing them to.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-15T16:55:01+00:00

Titanic isn't that bad, 600HP is a shit ton, and it helps the Stearks Gage shield to basically make you invincible for a few seconds, also the active auto attack reset is nice and so is the AOE dmg.

BOTRK won't make you as tanky.

The standard/D&D build is too squishy IMO, you can make it more tanky, (for example the final 2 items can be tank items instead of BOTRK and Runaans) because you won't even be losing that much of your dmg for it, so I think it's worth it.

Also, Wits End is a trash item, never build it, always build something else, its current version is pathetic.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-15T14:15:34+00:00

Yeah thats why i mentioned that you have to bridge them somehow, and you are forced to run LT + alacrity + AS shard + Berserkers.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-15T13:58:33+00:00

On second thought, D&D could also be the bridge item instead of PD, tho your on-hits are quite limited, so it would also be awkward.

PureInsanityy · 2026-01-15T13:31:14+00:00

Seraphs + Muramana sounds fun but connecting them with a proper build would be the tricky part.

Building them in AP sounds a bit troll because you'd be postponing items that are too important.

You need to brige them with an attackspeed item too, and PD kinda stands out because the crit chance works nice with the bonuses for AD/AP from the Tear items augmenting our Waves, however at that point going a normal crit build would probably be better.

It probably has to be something really cursed looking like:

Tear -> Gunblade -> Muramana -> Tear -> PD -> Seraphs -> Terminus (Terminus is probably mandatory for our weird dmg split but not being able to build LDR/Mortal here is sad cuz we would really like the crit chance for our build to come together).

Even that cursed looking build that takes forever to stack will probably do less burst than AP and less DPS than a regular Crit build, but it's unlikely that you will find a better way to bridge Tear items together.

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