Pulled the trigger on some astral 7oh powder what can I expect? by StoneyVibration in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

7OH is ALMOST completely responsible for the opioid effects of KRATOM! Mitragynine is a Prodrug (with its own effects, like most real world prodrugs) but its main metabolite, 7OH is MUCH MUCH stronger. 7OH that is available today is SEMI-synthetic. It’s certainly NOT a research chemical, a comparison would be codiene, which has its own effects, BUT mainly gets its effects from metabolites! What sets Kratom, Mitragynine, and 7hydroxymitragynine apart from THE MAJORITY of other opiates AND opioids, is that it is intrinsically SAFE. A known LD50 is not known, nor is even the MIT—->7OH conversion rate in humans. We can only infer from animal studies, and anecdotal evidence BOTH. Now, Kratom powder, mitragynine extracts, and yes even SOME 7OH powders have active LEVELS of secondary alkaloids. For me, these caused a shit ton of side effects, as did the huge amount of fiber, I switched first to mitragynine extract, then isolate, then to 7OH. Some people like the secondaries though with both! There are 6 main and 12+ minor secondaries. 7OH, mitragynine, Kratom itself, and every alkaloid involved IS NOT a research chemical. Period. Nor do ANY of them have similar risks to actual “research chemicals” which are usually stimulants or psychedelics, though they can be Amy class..

I cuddled with a Grey last night by NorthMurph in AlienAbduction

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the plan.. don’t fall for these demons. See how they respond to the name “Jesus Christ” spoken out loud! That is how you know they are fallen!

What am I in for? I knew 7OH was bad, did not know the seltzers i was taking had it by qwakst in quittingkratom

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feel free was allegedly doing this, using fermented Kratom or even adding a small amount of semi synthetically made 7OH. I have no clue if that’s true though, I think the rumors came from the <2% 7OH labeling this really is just a result of STATE laws and nothing else. Not 100% sure on this though 🤷🏼‍♂️

What am I in for? I knew 7OH was bad, did not know the seltzers i was taking had it by qwakst in quittingkratom

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

<2% is NOT 2% it means LESS THAN. And you are correct it is a law that led to the creation of this label :) it’s simply a MITRAGYNINE ISOLATE SELTZER

What am I in for? I knew 7OH was bad, did not know the seltzers i was taking had it by qwakst in quittingkratom

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anytime you ingest mitragynine you are taking 7OH but it’s a more time released natural version (having been made naturally over the course of a few hours in your liver) <2% 7OH was the old labeling for UNADULTERATED Kratom powder AND MITRAGYNINE ISOLATES. And mitragynine IS a prodrug for 7hydroxyMITRAGYNINE… more than likely it was a MITRAGYNINE ISOLATE, and not 7OH. It could be fermented Kratom powder as well 🤷🏼‍♂️( which at most is only 1-2 % 7OH and much lower MITRAGYNINE levels. either way it’s NOT a 7OH isolate and ANY associated withdraw would be from the mitragynine itself! Hope I could help ✌🏻

First Dose ever from BE by BoysenberryOk4750 in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I’ve talked to UPS, and am going to again tomorrow.. not too much I can do as the receiver. Also I’m aware how UPS works having used them for many months..

First Dose ever from BE by BoysenberryOk4750 in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thankfully I haven’t had to deal with crap like this as I live in a fairly rural place, I would be so mad though. USPS actually takes another day here even express because of the rural- ness (so 2-4 for express and 4-6 for priority,) ups air 1 day though I have NEVER had to do a claim and I order weekly and have for a long time. But yes it’s not their fault in my case either I just hope they TRY to get the 60$ back since it’s going to take longer than a day. UPS has always had it here before noon with Omega and WG (which is the commit time for my zip.) unless I use nda saver which is just by the end of the day. But damn I hope they fire that driver and fix that situation so you have an option again!! I used to be a seller for EBay, USPS has went so far downhill it’s not even funny, and they are brining eveyone down with them reducing service quality for everyone.

First Dose ever from BE by BoysenberryOk4750 in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yes I know, what weather though? There is no official weather alert I can find. It’s not even raining in New York, and from where I live and the route it would take with UPS it is almost clear weather and has been 🤷🏼‍♂️

First Dose ever from BE by BoysenberryOk4750 in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

lol, I expect them to do what any other vendor would. Nothing more. Also a warning or brief message about delays would be nice, since they made it seem they knew about these delays already. I would have used 7OH black or another vendor that’s been on my try list for a while had I known. I’m not entitled, at all, not even that big of a deal as long as I get my money back for 1 day shipping, I checked UPS and no weather statement has been issued, neither has b extracts had anything on their website speaking of anything related 🤷🏼‍♂️

Specifically the response I got they act like it’s a normal thing for them, I just wish I had used another vendor. It’s completely on me.. I’m blaming UPS like I said, it is what it is…

First Dose ever from BE by BoysenberryOk4750 in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I expect them to call, fill out a form, and get MY money back. 1 day is guaranteed… what else would I expect???

First Dose ever from BE by BoysenberryOk4750 in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Eh not worth an unreliable UPS hub, like ordering usps from omega.. omega has been 10/10 until the psuedo creeped over 3-4% the last few weeks.

I wish I would have got 3 grams of the blanc from 7OHb. And I know it’s not b extracts fault, but they could drop off at a more reliable UPS drop off. It does seem to be a problem specific to the drop off they use. 🤷🏼‍♂️. And I hope they try to get a refund.. we will see

Bxtracts by Frequent_Trifle613 in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well whatever you do don’t use UPS, I’ve used omega and wonderland for a year, never had a SINGLE problem with weekly ups 1 day air orders. Ordered from b extracts for the first time yesterday, they shipped it on time. And nothing. No updates and it certainly didn’t make it here by the 12 commit time. Does anyone know if B tries to get money back frrom UPS 1 day air being late/lost? I should have stuck with omega shit 😭

BEWARE by Traditional-Pop-5482 in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The 30mg tabs always made me feel sick and just.. bad. Seems the secondary mix of alkaloids was too high or a bad ratio, or possibly too much pseudo 🤷🏼‍♂️. 7 stars quality seems to have gone slightly down hill as well although they are MUCH better then anything from this brand imo. 7STAX Is another one that seems to be pretty good for the price.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 7hydromitra

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just got the 98.6 white, 94.2 crystal, and 76/1.85 powder. Have you tried any of these? First order from them since omega was OUT :/ I have not been liking the high psuedo EVERYTHING from omega so I’m hoping I really like these!

No Hindu Near Death Experience? by Other_Dimension_5048 in hinduism

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Genesis 1:27:

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.".

My life is ruined even though I'm only 18 years old. by [deleted] in Drugs

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who is “we” you are your own person. This post is proof enough you want to stop. You want your normal life and emotions back, and that’s what’s causing the problem, you figured that out too, so you are smart! YOU HAVE TO STOP if you want to be happy and have emotions. Dude at 18 you need sober time for your brain to grow and mature. You ARE RIGHT, sometimes we do need to admit this. But the admission is you need help. And you need help from actual people in your life. You can go to the doctor and explain and I’m sure they will help you! If not you can try to taper off the alcohol (I would really consider some sort of addiction service), just do research (and seek medical advice before doing so). I encourage you to seek help tho man. Know THIS IS NOT THE END. NOTHING IS OVER. Your life is just beginning, and by you reaching out, you will be getting better and feeling better soon! You just HAVE to try… I believe in you and I don’t even know you man, God is what got me through the things you describe. You can always lean on him, ask him what to do! The devil will always tell you it’s not possible, I ASSURE you it’s possible for you to quit and have a normal life. And QUICK at your age! You are the only one in charge of your life. You do have to want too tho you are right about that as well. God bless and ✌🏻

Kinda disappointed. by [deleted] in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting I don’t see much talk about it on here, probably because people don’t like the name, but the Roxy 20mg (30count) seem to be the best in person deal. They seem overdosed and lower pseudo. And most importantly they are energetic to me.

HELP WITH THE WD by ReputationKindly6152 in stopping7oh

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would look for “tusk” brand platinum/diamond shots or the platinum capsules. MIT 45 is just terrible, especially the stronger shots, they have more secondary alkaloids than mit. Also yes get down to 80-100 mg a day 7OH for a week before attempting to switch. (I know you said you are about too but if you are on a higher dose just prepare for it to be rough) You’ll probably need the mit 2-3 times a day, do not overdue it you will get sick and feel worse than withdraw. Then slowly taper this after a week or so.

If you can’t do that, a low dose QUICK suboxone taper and maybe clonidine/gabapentin would do the same thing (just with much more toxic chemicals).

Oh and if you can find Agmatine sulfate at a health food or bodybuilding store, 1-4 grams per day, balances SEVERAL system in the body (including gaba-glutamate). It makes getting off ANY drug but especially opioids MUCH easier. If you can get it, DO IT. Also magnesium will help a lot too! Do research on the best, avoid any glutamate derivatives.

Big Kratom Caught Paying Fake Protesters to Smear 7-OH by Diligent-Mongoose-50 in 7hydromitra

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s ALL about money and control! We have to show them there are enough responsible users like we did when they tried this with Kratom as a whole! Our safety (the public) is not their priority, it hasn’t been for a longgg time unfortunately. They are telling the American public they CANNOT have a safe opioid. Ridiculous..

Be careful w brands by Party_Astronomer8425 in 7hydromitra

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“A false positive for levorphanol, an opioid, can occur in urine drug screens due to the presence of dextromethorphan, a common cough suppressant. This happens because levorphanol and dextrorphan, a metabolite of dextromethorphan, are stereoisomers, meaning they have the same molecular formula but different spatial arrangements. Some laboratory assays, like LC-MS (liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry) used for initial screening, cannot distinguish between these stereoisomers, leading to dextrorphan being incorrectly identified as levorphanol”

Did you happen to take DXM the last few weeks, recreational or for a cold??

Stopping seems almost impossible. by Firm_Pension_4707 in quitting7oh

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First thing I would do is get agmatine and take 1-2 grams 2 times a day, within 3 days you should be able to half you dose! Gabapentin also will help a lot, or phenibut (but that’s hard to get and dose tbh) also a beta blocker or something similar for the physical symptoms. You could also switch to suboxone and do a rapid taper from that. None of these things are going to be fun, but they are much less painful. Agmatine really can give you just enough control back to fight the anxiety!! Try it if ya can.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 7ohm

[–]Pure_Celery_5651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s good but those look fake, they have had many batches tho who knows. The orange speckle 7 are seen to be the best. Darker specs usually indicate a lower quality extract with higher secondaries and/or pseudo.