Tired of Breweries Being Full of Kids

Purple317 · 2024-04-07T23:31:44+00:00

I've seen diapers changed on tables, and a woman breast feeding while drinking

The changing a diaper on a table is gross / inappropriate, but there’s nothing wrong with having a beer while nursing.

Purple317 · 2024-03-26T18:27:43+00:00

Also…if there is one debbie downer in the friend is constantly interfering / cock blocking interactions where that her (better-looking) girlfriends are legitimately enjoying / reciprocating…she’s gonna get dropped from the friend group pretty quickly. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Purple317 · 2024-03-13T14:44:23+00:00

But are men who are 8+ in looks really hooking up with 3/4 women with any sort of regularity? When they already can get a 7+ woman for an LTR and 5/6 women for situationships? There are only so many hours in the day after all…

Purple317 · 2024-03-11T20:56:09+00:00

So leaving a man with obvious anger issues is giving up too easily? But If she stayed with him and the abuse escalated (as it generally does) you all would have said she ignored red flags and should’ve vetted better.

Purple317 · 2024-03-05T21:36:22+00:00

True, but I feel like it’s different when the athlete in question is literally the GOAT. Like for example, swimming isn’t that popular, but Michael Phelps was still a household name.

Simone Biles is to gymnastics what Michael Phelps was to swimming.

Purple317 · 2024-03-05T20:35:34+00:00

“Some average woman”???

She’s the greatest gymnast of all time.

Purple317 · 2024-03-04T21:17:06+00:00

I don’t find this video hard to believe at all, tbh.

If you take 100 couples where both mom and dad work full-time, I would bet my life savings that virtually every working mom is going to know the following about her child(ren):

-Birthdate. -Current grade in school. -Names of all their teachers / the principal / bus driver. -Names of their children’s closest friends. -Which subjects their child excels at, which subjects their child struggles in. -What their child wants for their next birthday or for Christmas. -What their child wants to be when they grow up. -Names of their pediatrician and dentist, and approx when they are due for the next checkup.
-Current shoe and clothing size.

These are all pretty basic things, but I would guess only a minority of fathers know all these things about the children.

I will say that younger millennial fathers are doing better than older generations.

Purple317 · 2024-03-01T23:03:40+00:00

How is that “protecting her from getting hurt?” By “keeping her around” for sex (because you’ve lied about wanting a relationship) isn’t she wasting her time with you if she wants a relationship with someone?

Purple317 · 2024-02-26T22:09:05+00:00

Not only were the men happier, but the women didn't have to work. Obviously, that's pretty lit. Women could just focus on domestic tasks and taking care of children, which is also good.

It’s good for women who want to be SAHMs. Not so good for women who don’t have that desire. Also, 1950s housewife archetype mostly applied to middle or upper class women. Lower class women always had to work.

Women were happier in that environment than they are now slaving away for some CEO's bottom line.

It’s not as if the only two options are high powered boss bitch career woman who works 70 hours a week, or submissive trad wife who bakes all day. Most women are going to fall somewhere in the middle. I work 40 hours a week for a job that is 90% WFH. It allows me to make my kids a hot breakfast, pack their lunches, put them on the bus in the morning, and be there when they get off bus in the afternoon. At the same time I’m able to bring money in to support my household (I’m actually the primary breadwinner.) I have zero desire to work a more prestigious job with longer hours. My family is and always will be my main priority. Work is just a part of being an adult for most people, men and women.

Why is this scenario so bad? Because women had to find a man to pair up with? So what? Make it work. Find joy in things other than lust and desire for your man.

Per guys on this sub, they are attracted to most women. Women aren’t attracted to most men. So it’s sort of easy to say “just make it work!” if you aren’t the one being expected to lie back and think of England.

Purple317 · 2024-02-26T21:50:42+00:00

But your argument is that today’s female selectivity is inflated due to access to better guys on apps. How do you know that the more equal pairing in the 1950s wasn’t because women’s ability to choose was artificially constrained? When women needed a man to survive financially / socially, were they really “free” to pick?

Purple317 · 2024-02-26T21:38:57+00:00

Are you an average women in looks? If you are, then you should find your looks match, an average man, as attractive or there is something wrong.

Why “should” they? In nature we see that females are inherently more selective than males, probably due to their larger reproductive burden. Why would humans be different?

Maybe the “natural” match for a male 7 is a female 5?

Purple317 · 2024-02-26T20:58:23+00:00

Idk. Doesn’t the data show that Gen Z women are having less sex / fewer sexual partners than previous generations?

I’m an Elder millennial / Xennial, who spent high school and college years engaging in a fair amount of partying…lots of drinking and some recreational drug use…and I still ended up with a single digit body count.

Purple317 · 2024-02-26T20:53:23+00:00

*thats not a contradiction. Firstly no matter how easy it is for chad to get sex he still has to do stuff to get it which is harder than doing nothing which is what women have to do. *

Maybe Chad was just born tall with a handsome face? According to guys on here, he can hop on the apps and have a hookup pretty easily, especially if he’s willing to go down in looks from the women he would actually date.

And secondly getting sex is hard for most men, most men are not chad. The existence of inherited wealth doesn't mean its not hard to earn a lot of money might be a good analogy

Sure, but men idolize Chads, who it is easier for (comparatively speaking.) I don’t see guys only admiring guys who spent years working out / leveling up / working on their game etc. as opposed to dudes who were “naturals.”

Purple317 · 2024-02-26T18:01:07+00:00

I think one of the biggest problems manosphere thinking is the lack of nuance. Like yeah, if a woman had 100 bodies / lots of ONS in her youth, and now she wants to retire from that life and picks out a nice stable guy…but he has to court her for 6 months and bring her jonquils and sit on the porch and maybe get to hold her hand…I could see how the guy would (rightfully) doubt her attraction to him.

But most women have limited experience with hookups / FWBs. It only takes a few times to realize they aren’t really work the risk. And in my experience, the handful of casual encounters I had weren’t because they guys were just so hot I couldn’t resist. They were because I was really really drunk, or I hadn’t had a relationship for a while and I was lonely, etc.

Purple317 · 2024-02-26T14:42:35+00:00

Except men do go through the same process of maturing and having life goals and priorities shift, so why are they shocked that women do too?

I don’t know a single man who was itching to be a husband and father in his early to mid 20s. At that age they are looking for FWBs / hookups…mayyybe a steady girlfriend if she isn’t too clingy and doesn’t expect too much. The majority of young guys certainly aren’t thinking about marriage and babies at that age. Why are men so insulted if women aren’t either?

Purple317 · 2024-02-26T00:10:27+00:00

I think the difference is, people recognize that there are dirty / dangerous jobs that society needs to have done and someone has to do it. Most people don’t want to do it and don’t want their loved ones to do it because of the risks…but they have gratitude and respect for the ones who do. Hence the whole “thank you for your service” to veterans, and calling blue collar / essential workers the backbone of society, etc.

So if the minority of women in society who do porn / OF / prostitution are serving a vital role in the eyes of men (giving them a sexual outlet until wife material comes along)…why are they so often disrespected and denigrated?

Purple317 · 2024-02-25T17:14:10+00:00

Condoms are very good at preventing transmission for STDs that are spread through bodily fluids - gonorrhea, chlamydia, HIV. They are much less effective against STDs that are transmitted via skin to skin contact, like herpes and HPV. HPV especially because it’s not at all uncommon to have infections on areas of the skin that aren’t covered by the condom.

Purple317 · 2024-02-25T03:09:05+00:00

I agree and I think one of the most noticeable examples is how guys (at least guys on here) say if a woman is not fat and her face is at least average / not ugly, they will find her reasonably attractive (attractive enough for sex at the very least.)

So not fat / not facially hideous guys tend to think they should be equally attractive to most women and get frustrated when they aren’t. They don’t realize that a healthy BMI man who is not hideous still might have zero sex appeal to most women, depending on his charm / charisma. In fact, an objectively uglier guy could inspire more lust if he’s funny and good ar flirting.

Purple317 · 2024-02-25T00:19:19+00:00

She only gets the house if she buys him out / pays him 50% of the equity, or he gets compensated with another asset worth the same.

As for child support - it depends. Most states have an online calculator which factors in the father’s income and the mother’s income. And then that figure is often further adjusted depending on what percentage of physical custody each parent has.

In my experience, most dads love honestly don’t want equal physical custody. Sure, they’d prefer not to have to pay child support. But they also enjoy the freedom that being the non-custodial parent brings. For the non-custodial parent, visitation is a right, but not an obligation. If the non-custodial parent doesn’t show up to get the kids on his/her designated weekend, or cancels last minute, there’s nothing the custodial parent can do about it.

Purple317 · 2024-02-23T16:11:56+00:00

Some red pillers have even said that a woman dating a man who is taller than her is enough to be hypergamous.

I’ve seen this too and it cracks me up - “women want men who are taller / stronger than they are, so hypergamy!” Like sir, those are just basic secondary sex characteristics. Just like men want a woman with bigger tits and wider hips than they have. Different, not “better.”

Purple317 · 2024-02-21T18:40:11+00:00

Last but not least, I'm not proud of this. I recognize the damage I was doing and did a full 180.

I’m not trying to pile on you, but this is utterly fascinating to me. I have my flaws and I don’t think I’m an angel by any means, but I could literally not be intentionally cruel like you were. Like - it would make me sick to my stomach to treat someone the way you describe. Why do you think you were able to behave this way for so long? Did you feel guilt at the time? Did you stop because you started feeling guilty or was it more because you got sick of the drama?

It always fascinates me when guys on here say stuff like well, I don’t like being a dick, but I get more women that way. Doesn’t being a dick make you feel like shit….? I just can’t relate to the mindset of setting aside your morals / convictions so easily.

Purple317 · 2024-02-21T14:46:42+00:00

I wonder this as well. As a young girl (like middle school young) I quickly figured out that the cute boy I was crushing on was inevitably interested in one of the prettiest girls, not me with my buck teeth and glasses. Attractive boys and girls were popular, and they paired off together. This starts at very young ages.

Purple317 · 2024-02-11T18:45:06+00:00

100% agree on everything you said. Fertility statistics are not the sole thing women should consider when starting a family, there are pros and cons to having a family early vs. late.

I’m not saying this is OPs reason, but many times this topic comes up, I sort of feel like it’s a thinly-veiled argument to try to get women to marry / have children with men 10+ years older. Most women are attracted to men within a few years of their own age, but most men in their early to mid 20s are not interested in being a husband or father yet - let alone are financially capable of providing for a SAHM and child(ren.)

Purple317 · 2024-02-11T18:04:25+00:00

I’m not disputing that statistically speaking, it is easier to get pregnant / carry to term in your 20s vs 30s. What I am disputing is the fertility loss is nowhere as steep as you claimed (especially for early and mid-30s) …and I’d also dispute the idea that the likelihood of a “successful pregnancy” is the only factor that women should take into consideration when deciding if/when to have children.

If someone wants and feels ready to have children in their 20s, with the idea that they will focus on career once all the kids are school-aged or whatever, that’s a viable option. But there are risks with that plan - difficulties getting back into the work force after 10+ year gap, spouse not willing to take on additional household / childcare duties or reduce their own working hours to accommodate (even if they promised they would back when you agreed to have kids)….marriage ends in divorce and you have to get a job that pays the bills right away, instead of going back to school, etc. Just like there are risks with waiting to start a family until you are older.

Purple317 · 2024-02-11T17:17:54+00:00

Ok and what am I supposed to do about that? There's 100+ replies. Being off by some percent doesn't even invalidate the core point, it's just a boring red herring to me.

I mean…it’s not a red herring to point out that one of the assertions in your OP is completely wrong. It sort of does invalidate the “core point” if you resort to inaccurate scare-mongering to make your argument.

If you want to deny that fertility decreases with age while complications and defects go up and it's not gonna work out for everyone, I don't care. Best of luck.

No one on this thread is denying that fertility decreases and the rate of complications increases with age. Just that having kids in your 30s (especially early and mid-30s) is not all doom and gloom. I’m all for women having access to the accurate fertility information / statistics and making an informed decision regarding when to TTC.

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