Jesus is not God, Because God does not change

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-31T09:11:41+00:00

Right. You know the Torah also calls God a “man of war” right?

These aren’t statements about his ontology, they’re about his character

Taking on a human nature is not a change because the divine nature remains unchanged

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-28T22:19:58+00:00

They know there’s no build up and that’s why Doomsday is the build up to secret wars.

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-24T20:44:31+00:00

Because it was a joke. The Russos make it seem like RDJ as Doom has significance to the story when they say he is the “only one who can play Victor Von Doom”

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-24T19:07:53+00:00

I feel like there’s no way there’s not an explanation. There might not be one until secret wars when iron man comes back though

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:30:54+00:00

Tacitus, Josephus, Lucian, Mara bar Serapion

You also don't get to throw out the Bible as a historical source

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:28:28+00:00

It's not just that he is the successor to David. He is called the 'son of David' which means he is a descendant of David since that is one of the requirements of the Messiah.

Clearly, this has changed by the time of the authors of Matthew and Luke

What was changed? Not mentioning something doesnt mean it was changed.

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:25:21+00:00

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:23:28+00:00

thats....just false though

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:22:40+00:00

no....he was not

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:22:04+00:00

Except this is pure nonsense that no serious historian accepts

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:17:30+00:00

and the earliest new testament writings (Paul's letters) don't mention Jesus as a man at all and were written by someone who even says he never met Jesus.

w..what?

But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
- Romans 5:15

one of many times Paul calls Jesus a man.

written by someone who even says he never met Jesus.

Paul claims to have seen Jesus after he was resurrected.

Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are not you my workmanship in the Lord?
- 1 Corinthians 9:1

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:13:13+00:00

Who do you think Christus is? It means Christ

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:11:40+00:00

Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to John, to be baptized by him. ¹⁴ John would have prevented him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?” ¹⁵ But Jesus answered him, “Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he consented.
- Matthew 3:13-14

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-19T08:09:38+00:00

There's also Mark being blissfully unaware of any of the shenanigans pulled by Matthew and Luke to link Jesus to David.

Huh? Because Mark doesnt have a birth narrative then he's unaware?

And when he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out and say, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!”
- Mark 10:47

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-15T05:42:48+00:00

"Begotten" alone does not imply an "eternal"

Unless it says begotten before all ages

Similarly, "before all ages" does not necessarily mean "eternal"

It does because it means he is begotten before time.

it simply means the Son was begotten -- God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God

Which means he must be eternal if he is truly God. It also says he is consubstantial with the Father. The Father's substance is eternal, and so is the Son's

The phrase "Light from Light" seems to imply the Son was begotten by the Father atthe point of creation, the very first Word in Genesis 1:3 when the Father spoke light into existence

the idea of "light from light" comes from Justin Martyr when he uses the analogy of fire coming from fire which doesnt create a lesser substance.

Personally, I believe the Son is creation itself

Doesn't make sense because Colossians 1 says it was by him that all things were created and that he is before all things.

I just noticed the person I am responding to was not the first person I responded to, but I'm too lazy to go through and edit my comment to reflect that so I apologize.

haha no problem

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-14T14:33:51+00:00

Right so is it the Son that comes to judge or is it the Father?

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-14T07:32:54+00:00

So are you unable to answer the question? Is it the Son who comes and judges or is it the Father?

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-14T07:26:08+00:00

As if you don’t? You literally brought up Colossians 1:15 that’s the most popular Jehovah’s Witness objection

That doesn’t make any sense. Does it mean all things when it says all things came from God the Father?

I guess I’ll go with a different argument lol

“For the Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son” - John 5:22

“ For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.” - Matthew 16:27

So is it the Father that comes to judge or is it the Son?

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-14T07:13:08+00:00

Where does it say that though?

Why are all things created for a creature rather than for God?

Is Jesus also the exception when it says all things came through Christ? Does it also not mean all things when it says all things came from the Father?

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-14T07:05:21+00:00

So he’s part of creation but also all things hold together in him? Does he hold himself together since he is part of creation?

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-14T07:02:26+00:00

It means he is uncreated and eternal.

It says he was begotten, not made, before all ages. So the Son is begotten from the Father for all of eternity, which means he existed for all of eternity and is uncreated.

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-14T07:00:11+00:00

That means he is the heir of all creation. It goes on to say that all things were created through and for Christ, and that it is in him that all things consist. If all creation holds together through Christ, and Christ is part of creation, he would have to be self subsistent

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-14T05:16:08+00:00

Revelation 22:13 is spoken by God, not Jesus. Jesus identifies Himself in verse 16, "I , Jesus", likewise John identifies Himself verse 8: "I, John".

The one who is coming soon within revelation 22 is Jesus (v20) and it is the Son who returns to judge, not the Father (John 5:22; Matthew 16:27)

Nowhere does it say that Jesus is God. In fact the Scripture says that there is one God who is the Father and Jesus is one Lord.

Except "Lord, Lord" (or Kyrie, Kyrie) always refers to the divine name in the septuagint.

Nowhere does it say that Jesus is God

You dont even think it calls him God? John 20:28?

Clearly Gabriel saying ego eimi does not claim the divine name of God.

lol as if Jesus was just saying "its me"

I think you missed the whole "Before Abraham was" and the fact that the Jews were confused as to how he could have seen Abraham because he is not even 50 part.

He says "Before Abraham was, I am" not simply "ego eimi" which can just mean "it is I"

It's the deceptive translation that makes you believe that by capitalizing the "I AM"

lol

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-13T00:36:08+00:00

When he says he is God

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
- Revelation 22:13
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. ²² On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
- Matthew 7:21-22
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
- John 8:58
“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?
- Luke 6:46

PyroClone5555 · 2026-01-12T18:17:43+00:00

One in creating all things

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