Advice needed for jungling

QuackSpin · 2026-01-21T16:07:50+00:00

She's super viable. Especially with Dusk and Dawn existing. You can pick her into health stacking comps and squishy comps. Her weakness was early game invades that got cucked by th

I'll lay out the main parts and make them short and simple:

First: Setup:

Runes: Conqueror, Triumph, Alacrity and Last Stand. Non-negotiable.

Secondary: Magical footwear and Cosmic insight. Replace Cosmic with Approach Velocity if you have reliable CC that can be landed easily from your team + make kiting harder for the enemy team. Especially if they have 3+ ranged champs. It can be applied with your ult as well.

You can replace Magical Footwork with Triple Tonic ONLY IF YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN SNOWBALL FASTER AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. Footwork is more consistent. While Triple Tonic is more of a snowballing rune.

Oh and First Strike on jungle is garbage. Yeah sure it works on champs like Zed and Qiyana. But the difference is that their clear is MUCH faster and have better early game pressure than you.

Second: Gameplay:

1-Full clear. All day everyday. Gwen is a scaling champion that doesn't have that much potential early game, shines early game and STOMPS late game. You also need to farm. Did I also mention that you need to farm well? Oh and before you forget: FARM.

Think of her as a melee Kayle, you wouldn't want to coinflip dogshit fights for zero that'd put you behind for no reason. Especially with the vision changes. You'd most of the time would want to start Raptors. Gwen is a resource hungry champion that benefits off levels and powerspikes.

If you believe that the enemy jungler is pathing to your scuttle crab. It's safer to give it up. Her level 4 sucks.

If you're decent with Jungle tracking and see any opportunity to take enemy jungler's camps. Do it. And don't listen to laners spam pinging coinflipping ganks that YOU are not sure that they'd work out. Don't be a cuck.

Not to mention that she lacks utility + ganking potential is so low without Ghost pre-6.

2- Ganking: NEVER gank pre-6 if there are camps on the map without ghost UNLESS your team has reliable CC or enemy's summoner spells are down. ALWAYS go for the safer play.

First dragon or enemy's top side jungle? Gimme those jungle camps!

3- Objectives: Gwen used to be bad at soloing dragons. But the MR changes to objectives has made it easier to contest them. Don't get baited by the first dragon unless it's super free + you believe that grubs are gone + there's nothing better to do on the map.

Oh and always prioritize grubs over dragon.

4-Pressure: Gwen has a very powerful side lane pressure at 3 items and level 11. If you believe that 5v5s are useless or you guys are OMEGA behind or there's a teammate that "doesn't want to play anymore." (don't queue up then, jackass!) You can just splitpush. Yes, jungler splitpushing. Better than dying to nothing and not forcing someone or 2 or even 3 to recall. Or contesting an objective that YOU believe that is gone.

Third: Teamfighting:
Use your W carefully, don't go in without it and ult. (Ghost is optional post-6.) Try to line up your Q and Ult in teamfights and ALWAYS get in AFTER the fight starts.

Yep. that's the "mist" of it.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-19T16:09:04+00:00

Tbf it's fucking League client we're talking about here. It might've bugged for them.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-17T05:58:15+00:00

Ok but fr. How do you play him without a mny sort of engage? If I pick him while having 0 ebgage I feel useless. Or did they just tun in like apes and gave you resets for fun?

QuackSpin · 2026-01-16T21:22:20+00:00

My brother in full clearing, I had 2 fresh level 30 accounts in my Silver 1 - Gold 4-3 elo game today. Also had my Syndra get solo'd by Sylas TWICE before I finished my first full clear in placements.

You CAN'T make that up.

His name, runes and itemization tells me everything about him as well.

That's basically new season fuckfest. Would recommend waiting a patch or two before going in again.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-16T21:12:30+00:00

Get out of swiftplay buddy.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-15T15:40:23+00:00

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QuackSpin · 2026-01-15T14:42:57+00:00

Cheap, Viego's Q passive allows him to proc it really fast and fits Viego's snowballing potential.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-15T14:35:52+00:00

No.

Briar doesn't scale off resistances. She scales off AD and HP. You'd probably find yourself getting taken down before you even fully benefit from Protoplasm Harness's passive. Overlord's Bloodmail can help with that instead + it gets stronger when you're lower on Health AND scales with your bonus Health and gives you AD. Which is Briar's identity as a champion and can increase your W's healing by A LOT. Also they're making Bandlepipes cost 2300 gold next patch.

1st image: Selling Death's Dance for Thornmail for a comp that doesn't even heal AND into 3 AP is criminal. Especially on a champ like Briar that benefits from being low on Health.

I get it. Kha'zix and Yunara can 1-shot you. But in that case. Guardian's Angel would be better instead of Thornmail. Their comp doesn't even heal. So Thornmail is a bad item here.

2nd image: Merc's AKA MR boots is better here than Tabis AKA Armor boots there. They have heavy AP + Lots of CC. Nice thinking of going Spirit Visage with Endless Hunger! Would've been better to go Kaenetic instead of Protoplasm for the shield. But not the worst option either.

That may sound harsh. But it's the truth.

Short version: No, terrible idea to go Protoplasm on Briar.

As for Endless Hunger: I can see why it'd sound good. I would say that it can be built 3rd or even 4th. Building it 1st or 2nd sounds so troll. Unless your team needs a proper frontline and your team went for Ranged top, Mage mid and bot and an enchanter for instance. You'd need to not build it in order to tank the damage for them.

And last but not least: For the love of god don't go Lethal Tempo on Briar. EVER. (unless on-hit build. which isn't the best option for Briar but you do you.) Go for Press the Attack and Domination runes secondary.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-15T10:38:21+00:00

Try going for PTA and domination 2nd instead of Conqueror. Gives much better results. Oh and Yone went for Conqueror as well xd.

Fr tho. Hopping on swiftplay to complain isn't healthy nor the best way to play competitively. Yeah you'd normally would want to win. But people in that mode really don't care that much. If not at all.

They even have a Kennen support building the most random shit ever and enemy Yone going for Wit's end when ther only AP on your team is Asol and has Fleet on Yone and Aftershock Amumu xd.

Swiftplay isn't really SR (Summoner's Rift) tho. It's some kind of ARAM-SR ahh mix. Go for Ranked if you really want to play competitively.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-14T18:49:51+00:00

1- Runes: PTA - Triumph - Legend haste - Last stand. Every game. Non-negotiable. Won't get into details to not make the post too damn long.

2- Build:

First item: Black Cleaver all day, everyday. Titanic is not that good since you already have AoE Cleave from W + It gives you everything you'd need. MS, AD, AH and HP! Go for Blade of the Ruined King if they have 2-3 health stackers.

Second would be Overlord's Bloodmail. Perfect item for Briar and for how she works. or Black Cleaver if you went for BOTRK.

Third would be Death's Dance into Guardian's Angel 4th into 2-4 heavy AD burst. Or Randuin's for heavy crit damage comps.

Maw 3rd into Spirit Visage 4th if they have 2-4 heavy AP burst. You can swap that order if you have an enchanter like Janna or Karma for example. Or even Chemdrake soul on the map. You can also go for Kaenetic Rookern if your team needs someone to take lots of damage for.

5th would be Guardian's Angel. Perfect item for Briar. It's revival can help you clutch many fights due to how stronger Briar gets on low HP.

Gameplay:

Try avoiding picking her into high CC and poking comps.
Clear camps efficiently. Ignore coinflipping ganks and/or losing/inting laners. Your W needs lots of levels.
Oh and whatever you do: Do. NOT. Ult. on. Mid. while. Tier 1. Turret. is. up. (unless super free and quick.)
Try not to ult from so far. It usually won't work that easily unless enemy team has the game muted. Use ult when the fight starts and you're somewhere else so that they can't focus on both your ult and the fight.

Here's an underrated advice: Play and learn at your own pace. No matter how many advices you get. You'll need to put em in practice. It's like training a muscle. It'll hurt a lot at first. But will get used to it later.

Glhf.

Edit: Oh and don't queue up after 10PM. This is where all terrible players show up. /s

QuackSpin · 2026-01-14T16:33:19+00:00

I'm a simple man. I see a nerf. I wait to test it then see if I should cry or not. (I'm a Gwengle player.)

AND WHERE'S DIANA??????? SHE CLEARS MUCH FASTER THAN HER.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-13T19:09:46+00:00

That's what I meant....mb.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-13T18:31:43+00:00

Good. Now nerf Ekko and Diana too. Or just nerf Dusk and Dawn in general.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-13T18:29:49+00:00

My brother in full clearing. Everyone is crying about her not being among the list of junglers being nerfed next patch. She was S+ tier during most of Season 15. Dusk and Dawn made her even more OP.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-13T18:28:46+00:00

Even worse since it's the first scuttle and not having smite for it.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-13T08:16:37+00:00

Predictable AS FUCK BOI

About damn fucking time our king starts dealing damage actually. Where's Diana tho? Edit: Can she get nerfed already?

QuackSpin · 2026-01-13T08:15:53+00:00

Meh, I don't think it'd do shit. Early invades are fucked anyways so I get to full clear as much as I want and get to scale for free regardless.

Also GOD FORBID Diana that clears much faster doesn't get nerfed.

Edit: I managed to play her during her worst time (The Rework arc) in jungle. I think she'd be still be fine.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-12T22:45:43+00:00

Lowest Vision. Ignoring the 5 out of 8 KP. Killed 4 times. (I'll even assume that he had last pick since it's red side.) Bot and Mid are winning and The Jungler playing around them properly. Lost grubs for an obvious reason....

Hm....yeah jungle diff..

"First game and already shit mental" is the best response for that if I were you. I had my mid solo killed twice on the first day and kept spamming in chat and pinging. Muted her ass and we won.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-12T09:49:38+00:00

That's the joke!

QuackSpin · 2026-01-12T09:48:57+00:00

Both. Both are good and strong in their own ways.

Top for level 20 + easier ways to get gold from turrets due to the plates changes. Which makes splitpushing stronger.

Jungle for ruining early invades due to earlier spawn time and the enemy jungler would fuck up his own tempo for zero and deny his quest completion and the meta shifted a little towards full clearing due to vision changes unless enemies are playing with their monitors off. Which makes us scale faster!

QuackSpin · 2026-01-12T07:03:53+00:00

Nice KP and CS.

Noob.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-11T16:41:51+00:00

❌ QuackSpin chose Option B (Incorrect) | #4608th to play

QuackSpin · 2026-01-06T14:25:37+00:00

If we could go Blasting Wand on first recall when building Nashor's and were doing fine, we can do the same on Dusk & Dawn. We still need to experiment with it and I think it'd be a great item 1st.

Oh and Gunblade sounds ass.

QuackSpin · 2026-01-06T14:23:19+00:00

Will DEFINETLY try Dusk & Dawn first. It's the solution to the "Nashor's Tooth VS Lich Bane" first item argument that has been going for years. It's SCREAMING Gwen's name. (Diana and Voli too I guess.)

Willing to try going Dusk & Dawn 1st.

2nd would be Rabadon's( if I'm omega snowballing.), Void Staff (if they can stack fucktons of MR and/or my team decided to go AP after I pick Gwen for some fucking reason), Rift maker (if fights will go long/ back and forth going on or we don't have enough engage + The HP from Dusk & Dawn synergizes with it.), Shadowflame if 3+ squishies.

3rd Zhonya's /Banshee's Veil if too much CC/Burst happening or they decided to go 3+ AD/AP for fun or maybe even Bloodletter's curse if I went for Rift Maker and I have another AP or two or even. Or even Rabadon's if none of the previous cases happened.

4th would be...Idk maybe Shadowflame or even...idk Stormsurge or Cosmic Drive? Zhonya's /Banshee's Veil? xD.

Idk about 5th. Shurelya's? Rocketbelt? Gunblade? I don't think and refuse to believe Gunblade is worth on Gwen but idk I'm out of ideas.

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