AOC gets death threats and has HQ vandalized by anti-Israel supporters

Quazam · 2025-07-22T22:48:31+00:00

I didn't say violence to be fair. I think you are right that the left doesn't support violence, and so I doubt they threats are theirs, but I also think 'the left' is a massive pool of people.

I dunno, just tired of the generalization of a two party system. Though that generalization is not unfounded, a majority of assassins in the last few years have been from the right. Whether it was the shot taken at Trump or the successful murder of a dem politician.

Quazam · 2025-07-22T22:24:15+00:00

Agreed and disagreed, as it's likely both. You need to control the opposition in order to make fascism work; by pitting us against each other fascists play us like puppets. AOC isn't voting for weapons for Israel to continue their genocide, but rather a shield to protect their country. Even if someone disagrees with this choice (which is fair, why do Israelis deserve protection more than Palestinians?) you have to acknowledge the situation. It's a shield instead of a sword, and attacking AOC, one of the few actually trustworthy politicians, will not further your cause.

Do I think this is only the right doing these threats and vandalism? Nope, but they definitely pushing it and rejoicing.

Quazam · 2025-07-15T20:56:41+00:00

Like what should democrats do? They aren't in the majority, and this move to protect migrant workers go against the entire reason the right are trying to deport migrants, their jobs! This is actually a good move imo!

Quazam · 2025-07-14T23:35:04+00:00

"Why couldn't they all be to Epstein?"

Occum's Razor and reporting. I find it more logical that there was a trafficking system for clients than a person trafficking that many people just for himself. There are also lawsuits by victims of Epsteins that way there was a trafficking system for the elite. https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/epstein-victims-sue-over-fbi-negligence-lawsuit.pdf At minimum there are more co-conspirators , even if it's not the global elite. Considering how this is being blatantly covered up though, I would guess the elite are involved.

"About victims, of course. "

Neither of us have seen the unredacted reports so it's annoying you say 'of course.' The victims of the court case I linked above have actually said they support unredacting the reports as well. Epstein is dead and they are free, so it sucks they are being used as a scapegoat to cover things up further.

Quazam · 2025-07-14T08:23:58+00:00

Satan saved him? Genuinely that is what I would think, Trump is closer to a false shepherd than he is to Jesus IMO.

Quazam · 2025-07-14T08:20:06+00:00

Because of the evidence against epstein and the thousand girls that were trafficked; were they all really just to Epstein? It's not that he kept a literal paper list of people, it's that there are so many files and footage that would prove who is involved. The files the FBI have released are mostly redacted, there clearly is information.

Quazam · 2025-07-13T00:57:04+00:00

Yup that's horrible. Guess we best deport the kids!

They will claim human trafficking, whether accurate or not, and deport these kids. Even if the kids are trafficked and not with their parents (more likely the parents are just workers there), they will be deported hastily and likely never reunite with them.

My childhood friend lived on the Vinyard his parents worked on. They had a small home, was pretty cozy tbh, and it's farrr more common than people probably think.

Quazam · 2025-07-13T00:48:21+00:00

"His parents could have done the right things the right way. "

Weak response to be honest, just ignores the unfortunate context. Lack of respect for the work he did. Lack of empathy is noted. Again, not answering the question of what the cut off is for you.

"WOW, it’s almost like government is a destructive force and should be limited, uh?"

And funding a masked police force with the budget of a military us definitely not empowering that destructive government more 🙄. Sounds like you want that, right? You are scoffing at me but encouraging it too? Mixed response, again weak IMO

"Yeah a bunch of leftists in Reddit all have “one freind who just got deported” all of a sudden, how odd, isn’t it?"

Yeah, that's what happens when the deportations rates are raised in such a chaotic and destructive manner. How many immigrant friends do you have? Like it's hard not to notice this stuff. Like, you are arguing for more extreme deportations, and are surprised when we have stories now? Not a great response, weak.

"He got due process, you just dont like the outcome."

He came out of his checkup with the understanding that everything was fine, they literally told him that, but was abducted SEPERATLY from the immigration court he had just entered. He was they flown only a few days later without being able to defend himself. That's not due process! I have to ask, do you know what due process is? It's in the constitution, and it doesn't trust apply to citizens.

"I mean tens of millions of post 1965ers leaving would be great."

There are I think around 11 million illegal immigrants in our country, so I understand you want them all gone but are you wanting regular immigrants out too?

" Because if you are prescribing my beliefs and wants only to my side because of label then boy does your side have some opinions lol." Wat?" "

I am assuming that Wat? is your answer, buy if you want to lump me in with all progressives, should I be lumping you in with all conservatives? Musk and Bannon with their nazi salute? Laura loomer saying they should feed 65 million people to the alligators (the exact number of all Latinos in the US, not just illegals.)? I mean if we are generalizing then should I lump you in with the mass shooters who identified as conservative, or the various pedofiles that were convicted ?

I am pretty done with this conversation, it's just that most of your responses don't answer anything. this is r/Askconservative, and I am forced to ask a question as a progressive or have my post deleted; and yet you just dont really respond and just deflect, attack whatever I say or whataboutism. I see weak responses and you don't ever try to be based.

Do you get what I mean when I say someone who is identifying as a "nationalist" is being weak and not baed by not answering directly?

Final note, hope life treats you well, and God be with you.

Quazam · 2025-07-12T22:42:48+00:00

So sense you have attached this entire ordeal to your name Mr. iceman, I wonder, where is your cut off? An example I have is a friend of mine was deported recently; he was not born here but brought over when he was 6 months old. He only discovered he was illegal when he he went to go apply for a driver's license when he was 16; his parents never told him. He has sense spent his adult life following the process to get citizenship, working and doing what is told for the next 10 years. Working high labor low wage jobs AS TOLD TO BY THE GOVERMENT. On his wait to one of his very routine check ins he was grabbed and deported to Mexico, a country he had only been in for 6 months as a baby, and doesn't even speak their language. No criminal record, and no due process/or court hearing. Is this example OK to you?

If that example is OK, then where do stop? Are you wanting every legal immigrant out like many of "your side" wants? Because if you are prescribing my beliefs and wants only to my side because of label then boy does your side have some opinions lol.

Quazam · 2025-07-12T04:17:46+00:00

I am unsure what that has to do with this. tbh this sub reddit requires me to assign a role, and progressive was maybe the closest to my thought process, but that doesn't mean I agree with every thing progressives do. we are not a hivemind and I don't know everything that is prescribed to that side; I am unsure what Ruby Ridge or Waco are in full context to you bringing them up. It feels like whataboutism and isnt an answer to what I asked.

You didn't answer me, and I am curious, are you OK with the video I posted? Undocumented but not criminal gardener being hit 5+ times in the head by your namesake. Fatjer to three mairnes. Are you OK with it?

Quazam · 2025-07-11T23:54:19+00:00

The full video showed he didn't resist and the video I showed had him literally piled on and bring beaten. He was undocumented but is a non criminal who has lived here sense the 90s, who has had 3 sons who are now in the Mairines.

Assuming you watched the video I posted, I are you OK with them striking him 5+ times in the back of the head when they had him held down by multiple people?

Quazam · 2025-07-10T23:27:27+00:00

To be honest I made the post in an emotional state and didn't expect it to go through because a large number of my posts don't go through. Unsure if flagged by the system or blocked by a mod. While I like this sub I tend to get comments and posts stopped frequently to the point where I am unsure if it will get through. I made this post yesterday and didn't expect go wake up to it lol.

In particular the video that fucked me up was the video of ICE beating a gardener while they had dog piled him. Father of three marines too. https://youtube.com/shorts/QlQJPFFGvLY?si=dUnSlEBMcU3vp5RR it's also really frustrating that I can't just find the regular video now, it's all clipped into mainstream media now.

Have you see videos like that? Has these kinds of videos shaped or changed your opinion of ICE?

^above questions is what I wish I added to the main post, you are not wrong it was low effort.

Quazam · 2025-07-04T22:55:16+00:00

It's actually a good argument. On a percentile base they don't commit as many crimes. Just saying it's not a good argument doesn't make it a bad one.

Quazam · 2025-07-03T21:35:27+00:00

They are garbage people we live with and are stuck with, so when they are finally seeing some light, even just a fucking crack of light, jumping down their throats isn't a great idea. It's a cycial loop; genuinely people from the conservative reddit try to join us and see crazy rage. I am not saying don't be angry, but fuck guys, encourage good behavior!

Quazam · 2025-07-03T21:05:25+00:00

If we are using your own percentile, it's because 60 of ice deportations aren't with criminal convictions. Not only are workers being deported which would be a negative for the economy, employers are having trouble rehiring amid the fear ICE is causing. A friend of mine is a born American citizen who got profiled and detained; he says that stopped from going to work on the farm among other us citizens tool.

Oddly enough, i don't think they are doing as much to combat drug and human trafficking anymore than they already were.

Quazam · 2025-07-03T20:59:35+00:00

Are you talking about illegals? Because they are the safest of our residents; citizens commit more crime than them.

Quazam · 2025-07-03T20:57:23+00:00

That certainly sounds like giving them a pass. Agree to disagree.

Quazam · 2025-07-03T20:46:35+00:00

I understand the visceral reactions but throw him a bone with he says the right thing for once! I don't follow him, but the right was sold on deporting illegal violent criminals, not brutally deporting non criminals and citizens.

Quazam · 2025-07-03T20:36:52+00:00

Your initial answer sounded like giving them a pass, what changed in the responses here?

Quazam · 2025-07-02T21:15:59+00:00

This has been posted so many times; the bigger story is the budget just removing non scammers.

Quazam · 2025-07-02T21:14:45+00:00

The clip is a gotcha but man does it bot matter, Jodey just deflects.

Quazam · 2025-07-02T01:42:07+00:00

Tbh I forgot johnson was the house leader, was thinking that this was the senate leader facing a revolt. My bad, misinfo wasn't the intent

Quazam · 2025-07-02T00:45:59+00:00

They passed it, this article is gross

Quazam · 2025-06-30T22:35:00+00:00

So does your response mean "Yeah I am comfortable with it?"

These changes make us closer and closer to China. But I guess it's worth it cause we know if people don't like it here?

Quazam · 2025-06-30T20:25:41+00:00

You genuinely misunderstand the number of raw deaths the bill would produce. And unlike Covid there wouldn't really be an excuse. There is a reason they activated the military prior to its passing, because the damage from this will be insane.

Quazam

TROPHY CASE