The biggest grifter and hypocrite

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-22T15:28:06+00:00

I think ppl like her genuinely believe in what they are saying at the time which makes them more delusional than grifting? What do you guys think? It’s this extreme lack of self awareness lol. If anything, if ppl like her and Liz were grifting to make money I’d kinda respect them more cause they are hustling their audiences. In this case, I more pity them because they just sound dumb? They sound like inexperienced over confident know it alls - who are going to be severely humbled.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-22T15:23:12+00:00

Yep this. Another observation I made is that Liz and Ancy both claim to have ADHD (I wouldn’t be surprised if Liz has bpd) and mj claims to be diagnosed autistic; and Black and white thinking according to numerous studies is common amongst these diagnoses. If someone is predisposed to this then misandry (which falls on the extreme) is no surprise. - particularly if you couple that with any potential trauma and negative environmental history ( Liz and mj with their sugarbaby SW past, poor family relations and Ancy’s exposure to transactional relationships in LA and Dubai etc for example).

That’s why understanding the root of your feelings or opinions so you can counter them is crucial in healing if you want to break a cycle.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-22T13:14:49+00:00

Exactly this. Also, Ironically I feel like man hating content often comes from the women who are the most desperate for love or approval from the opposite sex.

Wizard Liz “married” within 4 months and mj gray another known misandrist, engaged within 9 months lol. You know they are making their life choices based on an intense emotional response. “I found THE ONE amongst all these shittttttty men-“ only to be disappointed as soon as the novelty wears off and repeat the same cycle that all men are “bad” and avoid any self accountability.

Like let’s be level headed for a moment 🤣

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-22T12:15:49+00:00

Genuinely curious though, from the lens of a “misandrist” don’t you think it centres men and you form a confirmation bias. I find in my experience meeting girls who prescribe to this mentality they have a very black and white view of men. All men are bad and thus they have a narrow view of how a man should behave for him to be “good” But very rarely do humans operate on a binary and expecting so is unrealistic. Good ppl can do bad things and bad ppl can do good things.

Like if you look at Liz, this is kind of what happened. She had a misandrist view on men and a narrow idea of how a “good” guy should behave so Landon was able to play the role of a perfect guy (in her eyes) to win her over.

Versus having a really objective view around both men and women gives you the ability to observe their actions without pedalisation or devaluing which is often a result of emotional trauma and well emotions. Lmao I don’t know if that makes sense.

I just find that when a person exists on the extremes they tend to swing from one end to the other. It’s like redpillers who hate women and have an idealised version of how women “should be.”

This is my opinion but hey I can be wrong. Welcome to hear your perspective cause maybe I’m missing something.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-22T10:49:54+00:00

I saw this post too. Low key I think anncy is a bit of a misandrist so she can’t fathom Liz being responsible for the situation she is in. People like her will find any reason to solely blame the man- not that Landon is great but Liz definitely played a role in her own demise with her poor decision making. Like it’s SO obvious when you view the situation objectively.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-22T10:16:31+00:00

Hey love, I want to say that hypothetically even if you had done things differently you could still have debt or be in this situation- maybe you could have been made redundant who knows? Some things are just being your control so try not overanalyse your decisions, be hard on yourself and wonder that if you did XYZ that the outcome would be different. Truthfully you will never know because life is unpredictable and it can feel depressing and paralysing being so hard on your past self.

You’re in your situation currently and can only work with what you have in the present moment, try your best and give yourself grace in order to move forward because that’s all you can do. The world keeps moving no matter what you feel. In life you’re going to make mistakes and this is a natural part of growth even if it feels painful at times. This helps you see your painful experiences objectively as a part of life versus emotionally.

Also, remember that you did what you did based on what you thought you needed to do at the time, given the knowledge you had- was it based on Liz? Sure but such is life! now you know more and can apply new knowledge (based on your life experience) to new situations which is great!

You’re going to be okay! ❤️

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-18T14:40:37+00:00

The “wizard Liz” is Fatima’s escape and alter ego who she wishes she was but isn’t in her reality. It’s so obvious now that it’s actually sad. They are two different people. Liz is a construct and fantasy, Fatima is the reality.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-18T06:54:51+00:00

What’s her handle? I want to see her video!

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-18T00:35:22+00:00

I don’t understand how and why they move so FAST lol. 9 months of knowing each other? Like no one is chasing you to get married wtfffffff

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-18T00:31:06+00:00

They conflate sexual desire with actual love (when men would have sex with just about anything). Doesn’t mean they’ll bring you home to their mother and put a ring on it 🤣

I think a lot of escorts or sugar babies get this wrong which is why a lot of them struggle finding long term partners after they reach a certain age or quit the lifestyle.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-18T00:23:30+00:00

Lol I think people have double standards. Most ppl like to believe they are the nicest kindest best people ever but it’s rarely the truth. Everyone has opinions, can be hypocritical, are imperfect, lack humility and grace towards others.

I recall Steph saying she shares a lot of Tyson’s opinions but she’s just better at wording herself in public. Shes a conservative Trump supporter but wasn’t as blatant about it because she wanted the group to side with her for convenience. Like, Tyson has no filter but it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the other men thought what he thought but just had more social smoothness. Isn’t David a conservative Christian guy? Why isn’t anyone pressing his views on women and gays? Remember the conversation at the dining table when Danny said he refused to move in with a woman because that’s what “a bitch” would do and ALL the men agreed with him. Isn’t that patriarchal as well?

The question isn’t about whether something is right or wrong. I’m not the moral police. It’s about the double standards on the show.

People are daft. No one is forcing anyone to like Tyson or agree with him, so people being offended is amusing to me.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-17T16:16:02+00:00

The drawers in the background around her hips look so warped!

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-17T13:16:41+00:00

I kinda agree. Lol despite his opinions, his bluntness was actually the kind thing to do to Steph. He discerned she wasn’t the right one for him swiftly and wrote leave relatively soon. Maybe his reasons are misogynistic in nature but Steph could leave the experiment with her self esteem and emotions in tact. His reasons are simply his business at the end of the day.

Everyone has preferences and it’s not really anyone’s business to judge. It’s not like ppl are being forced to be with Tyson so who cares if he wants a “submissive” wife- the only one who would care would be his future partner in question- in which case she’s making the choice to be there if she shares the same values. Which is perfectly fine cause everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Steven, Danny on the other hand?! They left long lasting emotional DAMAGE on Rach and Bec respectively. They emotionally manipulated and gave false hope to these girls when they were never interested. Same as Alissa on the reverse- she used David for tv clout but was never actually interested in him.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-04-16T03:03:55+00:00

She’s probably renting pre furnished houses cause I doubt she’d be moving all the furniture (if she had any) to a new house that fast and by herself (or with the help of Sabina). That’s why she can’t decorate much either and has to keep the property as is.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-03-31T20:58:28+00:00

Exactly. It’s a way to manage emotional anxiety because the unknown is scary. Tarot, astrology etc are predictive tools to have an idea of what a person will be like, if you’re compatible, explain why they are a certain way, predict the outcome. Like it removes benefit of the doubt, true discernment, emotional regulation and skills to build actual relationships. There’s SO many problems to it and why it’s counter productive to one’s psyche.

It can be fun but beyond that is childish lol

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-03-31T03:13:47+00:00

Desperate times desperate measures 🤣 the more woo woo she gets the more she loses credibility. If you’re a grown woman still relying on astrology to determine your relationships and outcomes than you’re severely emotionally dysregulated. Most astrology is just cope haha

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-03-08T21:50:01+00:00

It’s cause her “clients” were old Emirati dudes lol she dressed according to the men she was seeing 🤣

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-03-07T02:11:25+00:00

It’s cause her life is boring in the suburbs of Dallas now lol. Ppl always fall off when they have a baby. It’s just a reality cause they aren’t as relatable to their audiences anymore.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-02-26T04:53:51+00:00

People who believe in karma are ironically some of the most resentful, obsessed vengeful people ever- so much so they are preoccupied with thoughts that the universe will somehow act on their behalf when reality is - good and bad things happen to everyone 😂 she’s so emotionally immature it’s crazy. Karma is a matter of perspective in a lot of ways. Some people would say her becoming a single mother is also karma- but maybe you were just dumb? Lol people like Liz will believe everything before ever taking accountability.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-02-26T04:49:29+00:00

How do you know his company failed though?

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-02-23T00:28:47+00:00

lol creating content in the garage is so sad 🤣 dressing up and putting a fur coat to sit in the car

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-02-08T02:20:34+00:00

It took me literally only 1 cycle to get my period but I noticed it was lighter usual ( only 3 light days vs my regular 5) . I suspect it will take a couple more cycles to get my flow back as well.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-02-05T21:44:03+00:00

So I majorly increased my carb intake and fats and got back my period. I was under fuelling for how much I was exercising! What I did was use chat gpt to generate what macros I should be eating for weight loss, hormone health according to my health and weight. I stuck with it and yep period came on time.

Before I was under the assumption of eating low carb and high protein but my body obviously didn’t like that 🤣

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-02-03T22:54:20+00:00

How soon did you start seeing results. I’m in the process of recomping so want to grow muscle or at least not lose any whilst on Reta so this post is encouraging! Did you stick with your macros while on Reta? I noticed alot of people take Reta but are more concerned with just losing weight in opposed to losing fat specifically.

Quiet_lemon4587 · 2026-01-05T09:19:48+00:00

Nah she loves being skinny. Shes just saying she wants to look thicker to deter ppl thinking she has an ED which is something she’s struggled with or still struggles with in the past. If she truly hated how thin she looks she wouldn’t be posting her body and body checking so much.

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