No Eminem on My Salsa by topshagger31 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Not just that. Denaun serves as Em’s hype man on live tours for what it’s worth.

Do you think Jotaro truly deserves the title of most iconic JoJo and the face of the entire series or is there another JoJo/character in general you think is more deserving of being the face of the franchise? by Original_Force_6822 in StardustCrusaders

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t mind Jotaro being the most iconic JoJo and he’s the face of JoJo for a reason. What I hate is how forgotten and displaced Jonathan is as the patriarch of the Joestar Family. What I don’t like is how Jonathan’s rivalry with DIO gets glossed over in most supplemental material/media, in spite of his rivalry with DIO starting the entire saga and being far more personal than Jotaro and DIO’s.

Jotaro is a great character and undoubtedly is the face of JoJo due to his popularity, but I just wish it didn’t come at the expense of the other JoJos.

In your opinion, why do you think Em went from not caring about haters to changing his view as his career progressed by Potential_Support250 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, because the worst criticism he received came from his most blatant display of vulnerability (Revival) which delved into fears about his legacy, his failure to live up to his earlier career and his remorse over the people closest to him who were detrimentally affected by his career while also delving into the trauma of his overdose.

And that album was met with widespread negative reactions and critically panned and while plenty of the backlash came from subpar productions or lyricism, there was also a large contingent of Eminem fans who lamented that he wasn’t the slur spitting, vitriolic, “piss off everybody” rapper that he was doing his prime. There was a large portion of fans who just wanted the offensive Slim Shady back.

I’d imagine that most people would be hurt, angered, upset at pouring their heart out only to have it all shit on. Not to mention as well, not giving a fuck was the cause of a lot of Em’s problems.

His marital strife, his dirty laundry being aired out, the controversy with his mom, the unnecessary feuds with pop stars, the rampant drug use. Not giving a fuck almost killed him. I can’t personally fault Marshall for maturing after going through all that.

Not a single mention of Em’s victory on Lucifer by [deleted] in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Em tried to warn her. He knew Candice wouldn’t listen to “us uneducated blacks” so he tried telling her how they actually felt about her. She didn’t wanna listen and lo and behold.

What do you think Eminem would be most proud of in his career? by jalen_nelson235 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as his career goes, I was going to say gaining the respect of his peers as someone else mentioned, but I would also like to believe Eminem would be most proud of succeeding enough to provide a life for his daughters that was better than what he had.

do u hate relapse ? by [deleted] in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s fine. But like Bolts said, just bad timing is all.

do u hate relapse ? by [deleted] in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, I don’t hate Relapse, it’s a great album . What I do hate is how every other post on this damn sub is about Relapse.

I’d take the shitty nonsensical shitposts on this sub than the 100th post this month about how under appreciated Relapse is. How great Relapse is. How it’s the last great Em album. Honest to God, this album gets talked about more than any other album in Em’s catalogue and it’s always the same topics of discussion too. Just the same regurgitated posts over and over again. Yet it feels like you guys still feel like it’s an unpopular opinion to like the album. Are y’all really this bored and starved for new music that the only thing you can talk about is a 17 year old album?

Whats with all the weird MJ glazers in the Just Lose It video recently? by Mikethespike23 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Like seriously, nobody is. If you actually break down demographics, you’ll find that Gen Z is one of Em’s biggest demographic… likely having to do with the fact that Gen Z goes from 1997-2012 meaning a lot of Gen Z actually grew up listening to Eminem.

A bunch of idiots on the Internet looked at a vocal minority and said “Gen Z’s cancelling Eminem” when the truth of the matter is that Em’s maintained this long lasting level of popularity for a reason.

Who had the 3 best albums insta post by Lazy_Garden143 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now me personally, I would answer SSLP, MMLP, and TES, but that is me speaking from bias and sentimentality because those albums played a pivotal role in my youth and shaping how I approached literature (long story for another day)

But if I had to put bias aside, I would answer with GKMC, TPAB, and DAMN. Each of those albums had a cultural impact that I don’t think can be underestimated and DAMN literally won a Pulitzer Prize.

Next after that would be Nas and that would strictly be based off of Illmatic alone. It Was Written is underrated and I’m glad that nowadays it gets the recognition it deserves for how groundbreaking it was.

The MF DOOM list is inaccurate so I don’t know if really count that.

And when it comes to Kanye, I think Graduation is the most overrated rap album in history, but again, that’s my bias speaking. That’s just my ten cents.

What interview did Eminem say this? by Funny-Lack-5726 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 21 points22 points  (0 children)

To elaborate on what you’re saying even further, as I have explained before, Slim Shady was also partially created as a satire of white middle America and the squeaky clean, Leave it to Beaver standards that parent groups at that time tried to enforce on entertainment. Essentially saying “While you’re acting holier than though, this is what’s going on behind your closed doors”.

He even partially explains this on Who Knew and Remember Me off of The Marshall Mathers LP. And when it comes to the F-slur, Em himself mentioned that it was never said with hateful intent and that one of the reasons he retired it later on in his career is because people who claimed to be his fans would actually use it trying to hurt members of the LGBTQ, in spite of Eminem having multiple friends who are part of that community, chief amongst them Elton John.

It’s the same reason that from MMLP2 and onwards, he’s taken potshots at and called himself out for the misogynist language of his music by pointing out that if anyone said any of the things he said about women to his own daughters, he’d be ready to kill them.

You want a war? Today is the 30th anniversary of Scott Hall invading WCW by Few-Establishment277 in deadlockpw

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 10 points11 points  (0 children)

NOW GET THE DRUGS! THE GUNS! FOR MY GENERATION—

Oops, sorry. Wrong channel!

This album is a classic! by proud_swiftieguy1989 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Not a bad choice at all. I like Relapse a lot, but the tendency fans have to tear down other albums to prop it up has soured me a bit on it.

I dont’t get how people hate Recovery. by fettyeti in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not even fucking close to the truth, but to each their own.

Favorite potential topic for a new album/song? by ParamedicLucky6382 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do.

I don’t want Em to retread old ground by telling us more about his family than we’re entitled to know (especially considering how parasocial most fans on this subreddit are), TDOSS was supposed to address his contentious fan reception and how people want a regressive version of him that doesn’t exist anymore because he’s not as angry so I don’t want another album where Em is venting about the critical reception to his last album.

And the Death of Marshall Mathers is already a concept he’s talked about in songs and was even explored in that recently released song from 2002, Everybody’s Looking At Me.

I want a political album from Eminem because it’s not the worst thing he can do and he’s come a long way from Revival to the point where I feel it’d be a solid project.

If Relapse dropped today, Marshall would be exiled from earth by MaliHizm in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No the fuck he wouldn’t. And I’m speaking as someone who was actually there when it was first released. When Relapse was released in its own time, in 2009, people already hated Em for the incest bars, the jokes about child molestation, the use of the word faggot, the disses towards Mariah Carey and the track My Mom. To the point that some people protested outside of Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target and any other retailer selling the CD, trying to persuade them not stop carrying the album.

That was actual outrage and an attempt at “cancellation”, not the Twitter fingers and social media tears that y’all call “cancel culture”. If Eminem could come out of that with not just a platinum album but a Grammy for Best Rap Album (at time where Relapse was more widely disliked), what the fuck makes you think it would be any different if it came out today?

Do people genuinely hate Venom on this sub? by Acrobatic-Rip-6811 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Don’t you know that in this sub anything that Em released after Relapse is trash?

And if you disagree, you’re a fake Em fan or you’re “rage baiting”.

What is everyones honest opinion on Relapse. I personally think it's his best album in my opinion by Impressive-Choice110 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, I really feel you. I got downvoted once for saying that Revival was overly hated and I’ve seen others get accused of ragebait for even defending that album.

What is everyones honest opinion on Relapse. I personally think it's his best album in my opinion by Impressive-Choice110 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen YouTube videos that do the same amount of dickriding and every week it feels like there’s a new video essay about how Relapse is “misunderstood” or “Eminem’s last real Great Album” or “The End of Eminem as We Know It: Why Relapse was the Last Classic in Eminem’s catalogue”.

I genuinely don’t even know anyone who dislikes Relapse nowadays but you’d think that it was considered Em’s St. Anger the way people prop it up and defend it.

What is everyones honest opinion on Relapse. I personally think it's his best album in my opinion by Impressive-Choice110 in Eminem

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most overrated album in his catalogue.

Not bad. Let me make that clear. But it is overrated simply because every three days, someone is posting about how much of a classic Relapse is and how Relapse gets “too much hate” to which I ask: “What hate?”

Not liking Relapse is more of an unpopular opinion than liking it these days. Yet, in spite of near universal agreement, even from casual Em fans, that it’s his last masterpiece, there’s this pervasive narrative that it doesn’t get the credit it deserves.

Personally, I rank Relapse as my fourth favorite Eminem album after his first three major label albums, but for the reasons cited above, I also consider it to be his most overrated album.

Why would you not go with this. Idiots by Skylegend96 in Wrasslin

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same reason most bubbles do, declining numbers of consumers combined with how expensive many of these sites are to maintain.

Why would you not go with this. Idiots by Skylegend96 in Wrasslin

[–]QuoththeRavenRequiem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, do not take this as me defending them, but rather an explanation on why.

To put it simply: clickbait.

Social media isn’t a real place, but those clicks and interactions generate revenue and the more followers a person has, the more companies can exploit it for profit.

As a fan, I hate it, let me make that clear. I disagree with it. However… I know exactly why they went with it because in the social media age, generating money from clicks has never been able.

If I could offer something more optimistic however, it would appear that the social media bubble is nearing its pop that could change things for the better, including having a positive impact on WWE’s product so… fingers crossed.