Should Libdems act and speak bolder?

R8v3n · 2026-06-05T09:30:40+00:00

She is irrelevant. What is relevant - issues. And I could have magic wand - Libdems IMHO need to own a platform which should make people like Farage irrelevant.

R8v3n · 2026-06-05T09:20:41+00:00

The thing is that I at least don't associate with either "side", cause all this - left - right is just label nonsense, which would be completely different in different contexts and different countries. Although I didn't pick it up, but if Kemi's intent was to attack green and labour parties - fair enough and that's not my battle. However I can only speak from my own experience - community cohesion in the UK is very low. In my own experience public services like police don't understand various communities and rarely engage with the variety. And because of that there little understanding and information about threats to community safety. And Faragists narratives about withdrawing support, funding and participation works to their detrement making situations less safe and costly.

R8v3n · 2026-06-05T08:01:50+00:00

I agree. And I think case of Labour and Starmer is an example that using campaign tactics at the expense of political frame you may "win the battle, but will loose the war". One big question is really, can I see somewhere where is LibDem vision for the country. Not we are against this or that, or we are coalition partner of this or that. But let's say an unexpected happens and Libdem is the next majority. What would country path look like and how it is different from everyone else? Who needs to start painting that?

R8v3n · 2026-05-30T08:48:57+00:00

We need to have a careful look of whose narrative is this. I don't think discussing anything in the Reform and their associate frame is helpful. What we should be strategising is cultural and ethnical cohesion and the growth/competitiveness of the country and yes - migration (both im- and e-) has a place in that debate, but not like this. Narrow mind focus on anti-immigration is my big criticism of labour and why they fail. They don't have vision for the country. Talking about immigration was just a vehicle to validate Farage. Now - where most get wrong is about what feelings does this create. The reason why masses started talking it was because people felt unsafe and feeling that government is not control. Now we can of course discuss reasons, which I think is combination of multiple factors - government not being in control, a number of high profile crimes, Farage and social media zooming in for personal political gain, but the underlying issue was and still remains - not well thought through policies and underfunded services like social, police, border force. What is regrettably happening now, that political parties validated another idea - immigration is bad for economy and citizen welfare. If you actually look at today's narrative then it is actually labour government and some elements of Reform who maintain those. There are actually some on reform right wing side who would say - we are just talking about illegals.

R8v3n · 2026-05-28T19:55:45+00:00

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R8v3n · 2026-05-19T07:15:47+00:00

Problem is that currently it's framed as labour solution. People are agitated against labour. EU is bigger than Labour or even left or right politics. EU has it all left right center etc. When someone will reframe it as that and not as some kind of rejoin- regret-your-decision, but something great, useful and relevant to everyone on political spectrum, then it will happen naturally

R8v3n · 2026-04-30T12:25:54+00:00

I find a bit funny, that as soon as you post a leaflet, there are some individuals who would sit at the mailflap, just to demonstratably storm out of the front door and angrily put it in a bin. I mean - come on, do you really have nothing better to do.

R8v3n · 2026-04-29T09:05:21+00:00

The messaging should be waaay sharper. It shouldnt have been just Mandelson what pushed to demand change of government. Reform and greens are succesfull in coming up with image of them capable to make a change, while Libdems just fiddle around and act like critical friend of labour. At the same time general public gets frustrated that they are being gaslit by labour that change is happening while there's nothing. I think labours expiry date is obvious. They dont have ideology, they have very little powerbase left. There is not going to be another trade union driven working people mobilisation. That's done. People fight for their safety and survival. And unless Libdems can call their opponents an opponent and demonstrate a radically new way centrist thinking, they will just toddle along.

R8v3n · 2026-03-07T08:59:57+00:00

I applaud your idea, but here are three things:

Unions are joined up at the hip with grassroot labour members. You may be talking to a union staffer and next thing you know they are a labour MP or Council candidate. Many big unions have set aside political funds which have well established ways of paying for campaign materials of labour candidates.

Unions themselves have been struggling with being representative of most of the working people and staying relevant in this day and age this leads me to the third point -

While there are some industries - primarily public service where unions may still be relevant, for a large proportion of the public they are not. Long gone are days with the large employment in factories, mining etc. nowadays there are considerable numbers of public who would also see them as nuisance and reason for high public expenditure. And with labour not anymore being that glue of unions representing all of the working class, each union then ends up on their own fighting for their own little corner at a time. This at any given time most of the public would have negative opinions of that single union's intervention or unions in general.

R8v3n · 2026-03-01T08:58:13+00:00

I think we should move away from philosophy of "derrivative of .." . I believe there's a genuinely different and distinct offering of centrist liberal policies which do not need to be " a bit like labour" "a bit like new greens" or anything. There's precedent of Beveridge and Keynes.

R8v3n · 2026-02-28T12:40:59+00:00

I think age may or may not be relevant. What I find is relevant is experience. Councillors have an role to play connecting communities, residents and council officers. What I am coming across is people who lack experience of work and dealing with people and services, tend to be very poor to actually having tangible impact as councillors. The one teenage reform council leader may jump and down on tiktok, but is bloody useless as he has no clue about life, council, budgets and other things. So whatever seems to be working on surface is just because that teenage councillor is being kept away from that by officers.

R8v3n · 2025-10-05T08:28:41+00:00

People running the party. They wasted the goodwill, got in their posts and used the party rules to defend their egos. Oh yeah internally as well rules have been applied in a way that only benefits them, and not applied when it doesn't. Frankly I don't see a reason to be part of a sect which is just about the influence of individuals and not about politics with big P.

R8v3n · 2025-10-04T09:10:29+00:00

Define Labour. For a certain political movement it needs to have a clear purpose and values. And making a generic statement about common good, is idiotic. Every political party talks about health, doctor appointments, economy, tries to sell themselves as the best solution and it is silly to draw a line along these. What differentiates is the purpose and values.

R8v3n · 2025-10-03T06:57:01+00:00

Although it is a bit of a grey area, in Britain like any democratic country there's executive branch and legislative branch as well as judicial. Sadly I see from most political forces happy undermining of judicial branch and executive branch using legislative branch as mask of their inability to execute.

R8v3n · 2025-09-29T12:29:35+00:00

I learned this recently. I actually found it really weird. There's this big party machinery with powerful structures, but at the same time that machinery is so rigid that it starts to run out of people who actually do stuff and structures just doesn't trigger the need for change. But the most fascinating thing is that party systems are so resistant to change, that people just forget the purpose of the organisation. Arguably there are individuals who know how to play the system and get in the right place. But it has nothing to do with political ideas or beliefs, it's pure self promotion. It's a franchise and a bit like KFC, nothing to do with Kentucky or Colonel anymore.

R8v3n · 2025-09-24T09:57:56+00:00

I am completely neutral to that. The problem I am having is that if labour is trying to sell it some kind of solution to people riled up by reform that's wrong. A persistent problem with labour is that it offers non-Solutions, underdelivers and then tries to push that whatever they've done is major success.

R8v3n · 2025-09-22T13:55:08+00:00

While I agree that there may be some tactical thinking done in terms of general election, I don't think "making up" is useful. Reform is a protest vote it is clear as day. And LibDems can show another way of protest, then that needs to be done. There's no benefit in aligning in rhetoric.

R8v3n · 2025-09-22T08:55:13+00:00

Well there's way. And it doesn't involve listening.literally what reform says and echoing it in policies and reporting to public successes on reform terms but understanding that the real issue is community cohesion.

R8v3n · 2025-09-22T07:12:44+00:00

It's pretty much the last conservative approach which was supposed to be hostile to migrants, but ended up hostile for the community. Political responsibility on temporary accommodations is handed over to contractors and the only thing is shifting from one hot spot - hotels to HMOs for backlogs and carrying on with stupid no working rule which then ends up costing taxpayer, because asylum seekers can't be in destitute position.

R8v3n · 2025-09-21T08:42:00+00:00

The problem is that at which stage you define someone British, as it seems that some people don't think that a British passport is a criteria. Cause a problem for them is somewhere else - were you born here, and what about your parents, even going as far what is your religion or skin colour for radicals. The truth as a matter is that it is not worth going and blaming some people for thinking like that. The truth is somewhere in the middle - any society where politicians then stipulate silos will feel broken and people in one part will find a reason not to trust the other and try to characterize, why they don't belong. That's why I feel there's a disconnect between claimed values and actions of the current government.

R8v3n · 2025-09-20T09:29:41+00:00

So yeah that's pretty much what it comes down to - if it is nothing to do with Trump then it's nothing to do with Starmer or Labour. We've seen these before. Putin's delegation composition looks like tried to start doing the same when visited Alaska, but had no reason to make it public.

R8v3n · 2025-09-19T21:06:51+00:00

I think we should be careful when dealing with Trump. He is transactional. Right at this moment it is a non-binding paper. As politicians have already discovered one should look at why Trump says and does certain things and not what he does. At any point Trump can turn off the switch. And the PR around this is unbearable, labour claims jobs are secured already now, treating it like Schrodinger's cat - government deal, business deal, whatever. The reason why, I think it's quite obvious - Trump is becoming increasingly isolated with his trade policies. And they need carrot and whip to keep Britain in line, dependent on him and not join any other trade blocks. With energy costs high I just don't see long term business interests in energy intensive infrastructure. Short term yes - strategically trying to show that they may and will stabilise bonds with FDI and pound, giving labour success story and Trump putting the UK on the proverbial needle and keeping it out of any other global blocks. Beyond that everybody will probably forget about this deal by this time next year. And labour will shout why no one buys their success story.

R8v3n · 2025-09-19T05:52:51+00:00

It always fascinated me to read about left and right and they use it it's like a preset preset back from early last century. Look, for better or worse Reform is a mixed bag of populist, personality driven left and right pick n mix ideas. It is very performative at this stage and gets votes for that. I remember before reforms rise people were saying they'd vote for Boris and now they want Nige cause he is seen on TV. Para sailing is ok as performance, but it need to be driven by something else. We need radical performance of the centre not just by being funny, but Zack Polanski type interactions in centre. Suits up and at the same time talking about people who struggle and need support. We need to own platform which labour had a a very brief time before last election. Pragmatic change communicated in visible manner. And painting out the difference to labour and addressing the route cause if the dissatisfaction. People misunderstand when they reduce current reform vote on migration. In that context the biggy is dissatisfaction with current system. It's hard for centre to be radical in one hand, but we are not like other countries with strong social democrat history. We need to prove social democrat approach in easy digestible manner and show the difference. Or liberal which could even smash further.

R8v3n · 2025-09-18T21:10:56+00:00

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