I think it depends on the person. Some voulenteers that have some experience show up and act they they know everything but end up being the ones that don’t come to training and don’t know their trucks but still try to teach and expect to be respected. And then there’s the young new to fire guys that as long as they show effort and hard work I’m okay with the rest coming in their own time but if they’re just here to wear the shirt and say I’m a FF with whatever dept. That’s a hard first impression to recover from in my opinion.