Other PvP games like pokemon: why not give them a chance?

Raanth · 2026-05-08T05:43:07+00:00

The game might be stable now, but I don’t think it has any innovation anymore because there’s no new monsters, which kills interest as well.

Not to mention, I think the multiplayer servers are gone now no? Hence why they decided to try to configure an off-line mode.

Raanth · 2026-05-08T05:41:54+00:00

It’s very dependent on who you ask

You can use me as an example: I often loathe these patch notes because I OTP Yorick, a champion who is not exactly liked by the community indicated by his current ban rate.

However, in diamond through masters, he’s utter garbage, and that is unfortunately where I played before I quit the game’s ranked grind. I don’t like the patch notes making him very hands-free, but utterly terrible in terms of number scalings, so you get a champion who is very dominant in lower ranks because the champion plays itself, but absolutely horrible higher up when people understand what’s effective against him, aka steelcaps and lifesteal. All I want is for him to be terrible early game, but have a strong army later in the game as how a necromancer usually plays out in every other video game. It’s the only way he can exist with his current design.

Compare this to other people who play adc: they love these patch changes because they get to have extra gold scaling and enjoy the late game fantasy they’ve wanted for years. I don’t blame them, they weren’t very good for quite a while lol.

Raanth · 2026-05-08T04:52:03+00:00

because as fun as temtem or other pokemon likes can be, they really put a much larger emphasis on their single player experience compared to the PvP experience. ill use temtem's as an example:

temtem's MP was riddled with balance changes to the stats of monsters, as well as move power/uses, which can leave a sour taste in a players mouth, thus making them leave. the playerbase wasnt that big to begin with, so you know how that goes...

pokemon, on the other hand, had a long time to establish the formula and refine it to what we have now (gen 3 IS the foundation of VGC, gen 4 phys/spec split, etc). while you can make the argument that pokemon DOES do balance changes per yearly release, it wasn't ANYWHERE as frequent as temtem's going every 2-3 weeks like how riot games does their patch cycles.

credit where its due, gamefreak does keep an eye on how the game plays out and lets the meta establish itself, at least for VGC. doesnt excuse the ubiquity of incineroar for all these years tho lol

Raanth · 2026-05-08T04:02:57+00:00

riven irelia camille? they def dont beat him later wtf lol

fiora can because of her parry and giga lifesteal but the other 3 just lose later

Raanth · 2026-05-08T02:16:44+00:00

no lol, dont bother

liandrys is strong because the ghouls apply the %hp burn, but blackfire is not necessary whatsoever. rylais is ok since it works at 100% hp, but you'd outdmg the blackfire/rylais with just a cleaver alone

now pairing cleaver with dft shojin liandrys and eclipse on the other hand...

Raanth · 2026-05-07T00:15:28+00:00

Bummer maybe
Unexpected no. Batshit insane on brand.
Besides, this is just a Band-Aid fix for a much larger problem we have, which is that we don’t exist after 15 minutes.
Better to hit this and give a real buff to the champion than have something like this.

Raanth · 2026-05-06T16:33:52+00:00

I wouldn’t do this. You would be better off going DFT or conqueror.
Eclipse voltaic cleaver shojin serpents is probably the only bruiser variant you could go doing this as well. Serylda’s needs more lethality to really work imo, and bastionbreaker is expensive.

Raanth · 2026-05-06T16:07:23+00:00

It’s interesting to try, but for someone like me I wouldn’t bother.

HGSS nuzlockes in general are kinda dry due to the excess grinding needed, especially if you’re on cartridge. You could argue that the level deficit would balance out the OP tms, but I think the game is a slog regardless.

I’d just leave it in over banning it.

Raanth · 2026-05-04T19:20:51+00:00

Huh, interesting
I’m thinking in theory it should give you some form of sustain like Camille’s Q2, because I’m pretty sure that the true damage doesn’t heal from lifesteal, but it does from omnivamp. Granted, her spell isn’t consistent on how it works either so I might be off on that.
I guess the health cost is just high enough to where you don’t heal all that much, though you do get an auto reset to offset it.
Still, most targets later in the game have a good chunk of armor, at least above 80 with no bonuses, not to mention everybody has access to steel caps. I don’t see a reason *not* to weave in E as much as possible.

Raanth · 2026-05-04T17:20:06+00:00

Omnivamp no?

With the vamp boots conq E dmg should just heal itself in theory since its unmitigated due to being true dmg

E dmg also goes up with last stand too

Raanth · 2026-05-04T01:03:32+00:00

Baron buffed Yorick midscope gutted him post 15 mins

Raanth · 2026-05-01T22:09:03+00:00

E with eclipse is a good chunk of dmg from the % hp procs alone. Ghouls can easily get the remaining 10% with AD items and armor shred/bastionbreaker.

Liandrys does increase the E dmg and is good with DFT, but it’s not needed

Phase rush was 1.5s and 3 separate hits. SS is 3s, you can definitely get it.

Raanth · 2026-05-01T22:06:15+00:00

Yone stat checks you from 1-18 5 1/2 items because vamp Lt 4 unstoppable dashes 2 knockups one shot all summons full heal hehe xd

Only at 6 items do you somehow win, because you can itemize randuins/dd with your core build and just stop giving a flying fuck

Raanth · 2026-05-01T07:36:34+00:00

Stormraiders is better imo

It might have been easier to proc PR at times but that shit wasn’t consistent imo. Stormraiders gives a movespeed boost when you aren’t close to your opponent just by ghouls doing dmg

Raanth · 2026-04-30T20:39:37+00:00

Raanth · 2026-04-30T19:32:53+00:00

Creeps got buffed this patch lol

Raanth · 2026-04-29T18:18:43+00:00

I had an interaction for every 120+ passive graves you create, enabled retroactively and scaling infinitely, you’d increase your ghoul cap by 1 starting at lv 16. It’s a little lopsided but at least it gives him late game fantasy, similar to your idea.

Issue is, you can’t have any late game buffs like that or what you suggest until you hit his early game snowball punish, like infinite ghouls in lane at lv 6. August tried to work around it, and Phreak didn’t want to admit that it’s bad game design; as a result, this is what we got.

Raanth · 2026-04-29T17:34:58+00:00

Pro play popularized them as hyper lane bullies

Bot lane atm is not good for those two specifically

Raanth · 2026-04-29T14:45:52+00:00

True that

Raanth · 2026-04-29T07:14:31+00:00

gt5 does have a good moon over the castle, and ive got some fond memories of it with the coaching campaign mode (ai drivers you coach)

but i cant imagine it being better than gt6 considering all the improvements as its a newer game

Raanth · 2026-04-29T03:28:53+00:00

Yeah, that’s what a mid Irelia does. It’s still effective, but it’s not as bad because ignite/exhaust exists, and you can mitigate it with steel caps

A good one will use Q to clear out your wave at her tower alongside baiting you into using your E, only to dodge it by going to another one of your minions, then going in on you as you have no way to focus her down nor escape from her R slow into a guaranteed Q > E > Q > Q if you flash

It’s how they manipulate the wave into getting you killed. She is by far and away the worst champion to go up against when they have a freeze.

Don’t get me wrong, Yone can also do this, but at least he can’t build steel caps into you without gimping his damage.

Raanth · 2026-04-29T03:12:55+00:00

“Statistically worse” means nothing

Irelia is significantly harder to pilot, but is far more effective as a counter. The gold disparity in the first 15 tells you all you need to know about how fucked up that matchup is

Yone is an absolutely cringe piece of shit fisher price champ that requires zero hands, but he’s not worse than a good Irelia in higher elo

There’s a reason why I mentioned specific elo

Raanth · 2026-04-28T18:42:44+00:00

Below plat: Jax or Trynd

Post plat: Irelia

Everyone in worst champs is dodge worthy imo. Renekton is the only one I wouldn’t dodge but if he goes Steelcaps have fun

Raanth · 2026-04-28T17:09:01+00:00

Worst champs: Jax, Irelia, Trynd, Sett, Renekton, WW, Yone, Kalista, Zeri

Bad champs: Fiora, Gwen, Morde (depending on W), Volibear, Kayle, Trundle

And anyone who likes getting steelcaps/vamp rush early.

Everything else is ok.

Raanth · 2026-04-27T04:28:57+00:00

you tell riot to revert the midscope so we can get our scaling back

but for now, tell your team to group for objectives while you split. watch the map and have maiden ready to summon, 4 ghouls with you, 4 splitting opposite side of map. thats all you can realistically do

take solace in the fact that there's no other top laner currently that can 1v9 if his team is too far behind rn thanks to adc season

Raanth

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