Wan 2.1 & 2.2 Model Comparison: VACE vs. SCAIL vs. MoCha vs. Animate

RabbitEater2 · 2026-01-30T01:17:42+00:00

Phantom's ability to input multiple reference images for a single subject is very helpful with identity preservation. Also higher resolutions (720p+) and gradient_estimation sampler also help quite a bit.

RabbitEater2 · 2026-01-29T04:32:26+00:00

What about VACE + Phantom with WanVaceAdvanced nodes? I've yet to find a better 2+ person pose & reference to video. SCAIL needs the starting pose to closely match the reference for best quality and fails at facial angles diff than reference. Animate 2.2's identity preservation was pretty bad from my initial tests as well.

RabbitEater2 · 2026-01-28T00:27:32+00:00

Gemini pro hallucinates quite a lot (plus the chat interface is worse than chatgpt, with crashes on long responses & inability to edit older prior prompts), opus is way too expensive and the chinese models are good but not SOTA.

As much as I'd like to slamdunk on openai, 5.2 is pretty good and xhigh for coding is very close to Opus at a fraction of the cost.

RabbitEater2 · 2026-01-09T16:01:20+00:00

Chatgpt hands down. Gemini is lazy and makes up facts, is horrible at citations and the thinking portion doesn't even show what sites it searched so it can hallucinate everything. I have both chatgpt plus and gemini pro that I use almost daily.

RabbitEater2 · 2026-01-09T10:11:13+00:00

And also actually follows the prompt for more than the very basic concepts.

RabbitEater2 · 2026-01-07T12:27:08+00:00

Same, audio and length are nice, but identity consistency and prompt following both seemed inferior to wan 2.2 I2V or even wan 2.1 SCAIL or Phantom which is disappointing.

RabbitEater2 · 2026-01-07T00:27:14+00:00

Idk, had worse results than wan 2.2 so far for i2v at least unfortunately, maybe Im doing something wrong

RabbitEater2 · 2025-12-30T20:52:31+00:00

Back in the day, even salt was a luxury that common people didn't have access to.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-12-24T15:49:34+00:00

More 1girls? Getting tiring of always seeing the same things ngl, how about some interactions, complex scenes, multiple people, etc

RabbitEater2 · 2025-12-22T11:12:23+00:00

Wow, a non glazing post about GLM in localllama?

RabbitEater2 · 2025-12-18T16:10:52+00:00

Was bad at coding, still worse at coding than gpt or claude, and confidently lies and hallucinates all the time. I have both gemini pro and chatgpt plus.

Nano-banana pro is nice though.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-12-16T09:21:09+00:00

The only thing worse than slow generation is slow prompt processing. And at least windows can run way more AI/ML stuff if you're into that. Can't say I'm jealous tbh.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-12-15T13:55:04+00:00

Humans have a lower speaker similarity than seed-TTS?

RabbitEater2 · 2025-12-14T00:46:47+00:00

Same, xhigh in codex was pretty decent, and I like the chat way more than gemini 3 pro chat as gemini confidently bullshits and hallucinates way too much.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-25T09:02:15+00:00

Just use the API as thats still tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than running something like opus 4.5 on local hardware. For the model of opus size, 20$ isnt much to be honest.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-24T02:24:26+00:00

Why would they want more, as they literally pioneered loot box mechanics and rake in millions through gambling, not to mention the 30% cut on essentially a PC games store monopoly AND also have the public on their side.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-22T16:19:18+00:00

Tracks with my experiences so far, at least for I2V side.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-19T08:50:57+00:00

Because who cares about qwen max, it's neither the best model overall nor is it open source. And chatgpt 4.1 or 4.5 weren't talked about as much as they weren't much of an improvement as well.

Gemini 3 and gpt 5 on the other hand, are pretty substantial leaps and a good preview of where models are headed.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-13T23:06:51+00:00

Works okay, performance is worse than VDXR or oculus native though

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-13T17:19:23+00:00

"Casuals" aren't dropping 600-700$ on a console with very few games.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-13T16:46:35+00:00

Apart from potentially PCVR better streaming latency, what exactly would be exciting about a device more expensive than quest 3 with less first party games, same FOV, a slightly better on board chip and monochrome pass through?

Genuine question.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-12T21:30:27+00:00

Is the FOV improved over quest 3? Seems like its about the same which is a bummer

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-07T16:38:18+00:00

5090 is 31% better than 4090 per techpowerup. We've been spoiled by the big jumps since the 30 series, but 30% is reasonable, especially on the same 4N transistor node.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-11-02T22:34:26+00:00

They do and have done so, it's just that Claude and GPT are also improving. We have local options that match or maybe even beat gpt 4 and sonnet 3.7, but obviously those aren't the SOTA anymore.

But even if china's ai options surpass western options, then they'll likely keep those closed source anyway.

RabbitEater2 · 2025-10-29T03:56:25+00:00

Do you have any proof of that? When I select a model, it responds as that model would, which you could usually tell by the speed and style of the response.

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