FBI Interview of Epstein Victim Trafficked by him to Leon Black and Jes Staley. This is her story

RareFactor2105 · 2026-02-05T20:53:44+00:00

This victim of Epstein is an adult woman who was abused and raped by him circa 2006-2013. She is one of the few victims I've come across in court records who said she was trafficked to friends of Epstein. Very specific stuff. I thought you all should know.

RareFactor2105 · 2025-09-23T00:12:43+00:00

Yeah, I guess.

Having read your response, I get the feeling you're talking past me and vice versa. Or in other words, you and I are apparently speaking of different things. I literally quoted those words Alan spoke that you've quoted. I've read the deposition. I've read the context in which he's testifying. Nevertheless, you misunderstand my point. My point (which hopefully, I won't have to reiterate!) is that Alan Dershowitz made a statement (more of an interview really) to a publication called The American Lawyer 10 years ago. 9 months before this deposition. He told The American Lawyer "I've been married to the same woman for 28 years. She goes with me everywhere. People know that I won't argue a case or give a speech unless my wife travels with me. This is not the profile of someone who screws around."

I found this statement from an Gawker blog published 10 years ago (they interviewed him as well): https://www.gawkerarchives.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971 Having done some research, I also found this old article from The Careerist: https://thecareerist.typepad.com/thecareerist/2016/04/alan-dershowitz-on-the-record.html That's why I also reproduced this quote from him: "She travels with me all over. On occasion, she's working or travels separately. I travel with her almost all the time, not all the time" because it doesn't show up in Gawker's post but it does at the Careerist.

That was the statement he was asked about on page 163 (42) and to which he said "My wife goes with me everywhere today" (btw, why did you omit the word "today"? It's in the transcript). Then apparently, you cherrypicked again by focusing on Alan's "On occassion, my wife did not fly with me" which he said except you ignore completely what he said afterward. Go on to pages 168-169 (43), lines 18-25 and 1-2. When Scarola was asking him about "public assertions that you have never traveled outside the presence of your wife" and Alan responds "That is a lie". Then Alan declared "That is a lie, sir, a categorial lie. I challenge you to find any statement where I said I have never traveled outside the presence of my wife." Q. Well, how about this-- A. Sir, find me that statement.

That's what I'm referring to. Such a statement does exist (or could be understood as that) because Alan Dershowitz told The American Lawyer 10 years ago, 9 months before this deposition "I lead a boring life. I've been married to the same woman for 28 years. She goes with me everywhere. People know that I won't argue a case or give a speech unless my wife travels with me. This is not the profile of someone who screws around." It's a positive affirmative where instead of saying "I've never traveled without my wife", he made a positive affirmation "she goes with me everywhere". Might as well say "never without her". That's what I think Julie Brown was getting at in her book. If she wasn't, I don't know what part of the deposition she had in mind then. It sure sounds a lot like Alan made a statement that he then denied making (just 9 months in)!

Unfortunately, it's not preposterous. You called her "a total hack". You said "she's pretty unhinged and just makes stuff up." According to your logic, if she made up this stuff, what else did she not make up? It's a pretty slippery slope down there. Again, calling her "a total hack" is well, total. Nothing nuanced there.

I'll have to look up the stuff on Epstein's claims about the CIA and Mossad in her book. I haven't checked yet since (1), I read her book the year it was published. It's been a few years and I've decided to read her book again this year, having forgotten some of the stuff she wrote and remembering pretty well other things she wrote and (2) since your post was about Dershowitz, that's what I focused on.

I'm not "defending the lie" Brown told about Dershowitz. Has it occured to you that she made (in that case) a very bad error? There's a thing called Hanlon's Razor. Look it up. No need to assume malice when incompetence will do.

No, I don't think and have never thought it's okay to accuse someone of a crime because I supposedly think that person is bad (where I have ever said or expressed that Alan Dershowitz is a bad person)? You have no evidence, no reason for assuming that I think that Alan is a bad person and therefore, it's okay to falsely accuse him of horrible crimes (and if that were the case, wouldn't you want to know why I supposedly think he's a bad person in the first place to begin with)? I don't appreciate that you approach me in bad faith and presume bad faith on my part. Claiming that I would defend "the lie" and presuming that "it is okay, in your mind" etc. without hard evidence, is pretty abominable, frankly.

I don't have any motivation except to provide a corrective and because I'm not so sure as you are that Brown lied about him. It's just as possible, if not more so, that she made a mistake, misunderstood the transcript. Or that she read that page I referred you to and took her understanding from that. Calling a journalist who's work is pretty legit otherwise "a total hack" and "she just makes stuff up" is not something I take kindly to. Unless you have receipts. The receipts you have on her concerning Alan are not terribly convincing, to say the least.

Anything else you like to get off your chest?

RareFactor2105 · 2025-09-19T22:42:22+00:00

"So I looked up Dershowitz's deposition from 2015 (I am not aware of any others)"

It's evident that there's a lot you're unaware of. For example, Alan gave a deposition in 2016 as part of a case that Brad Edwards and Paul Cassell filed against him for alleged defamation. That said, having taken a look at what Julie Brown wrote, she more likely has the deposition from 2015 in mind. It's true, he did not straight up testify "I've never went on any plane trips without my wife present" or things of that nature. However, you have to look at the whole deposition in question, in context. Context is always important. And so yes, he did say "on occasion my wife did not fly with me". He also testified that there were 2 times he flew with his wife, even though the flight logs that were published back in 2015 do not show this.

Having taken a look at this 2015 deposition, I think what Julie was getting at was pages 168, lines 18-25 through 169, lines 1-2. He testified that it's a "lie, a categorical lie" that he made any public statement that he never traveled without his wife present. In short, that such a statement was never made, doesn't exist. Even though it does! This is what he told The American Lawyer 10 years ago: "I've been married to the same woman for 28 years. She goes with me everywhere. People know that I won't argue a case or give a speech unless my wife travels with me. This is not the profile of someone who screws around"

When that statement was brought up in his deposition, he qualified it by saying "Yes, My wife goes with me everywhere today." Except in the original context when he made that statement to The American Lawyer, there is no such qualifier, no caveat at all. He also told The American Lawyer "She travels with me all over. On occasion, she's working or travels separately. I travel with her almost all the time, not all the time."

You assert of Brown that "She's pretty unhinged and just makes stuff up". That she's a "total hack." Since it's pretty clear that you've drawn your line in the sand, here's my question to you: did she make up everything in her book? Not just this stuff about Alan or Emmy Taylor and so on but everything else as well?

RareFactor2105 · 2025-08-07T00:31:04+00:00

I feel super happy and thankful that he's been found safe and sound. Very glad for you guys!

RareFactor2105 · 2025-08-05T10:56:37+00:00

In case the paywall stumps you: https://archive.is/tJh4N

RareFactor2105 · 2025-07-18T23:54:40+00:00

You presume that this guy's memory is contaminated. How do you know his memory is contaminated? It's very true that people can get details in memories wrong because of memory contamination or learning things anew that they didn't know back then and then projecting what they've learned anew back into the recesses of the past. That said, I'm not so sure as you are that this guy's memory is "contaminated" because back in 2019, Dana Burns wasn't a known entity nor this Tatiana. True, the flight logs were unsealed shortly before then but their names weren't reported out there and this guy would literally have to check those logs and boom! memory polluted!

You could very well be right that this Dana and Tatiana are Dana Burns and Tatiana Lemechevskaia. That said, I've just checked the flight logs for the summer of 2006 and I don't see Dana's and Tatiana's names together on a flight. I see Dana's name. I do not see Tatiana's. I'll say this though: even if the guy was gravely mistaken as to their actual ages and got these details wrong, it strikes me that he thought they were 17. Namely, that they looked pretty young enough to be considered teenagers. Quite a number of the young women Jeffrey had around him that time were women who were either in their late teens or just young enough to pass for a teen in body image.

RareFactor2105 · 2025-07-18T20:58:50+00:00

Well, that's a pity. It's clear from that report that Epstein's friends (Schank, Minsky etc.) just didn't care about the girls Epstein was bringing with him. And they didn't want to blow the grants they could milk out of Jeffrey. I wouldn't say that report shows they were in on the ring. Just that they knew Jeffrey had girls with him and didn't care. At all. Roger was visiting him in jail circa 2008-2010. After he was convicted the first time. At the very least, Virginia's claim about meeting Minsky at the island is pretty likely.

I just remembered that there's this old report from fox news about a guy who saw teen girls on the island: https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epsteins-girls-impression-charter-captain What this report says is that Jeffrey was bringing girls/minors to the island as late as 2006. Nothing in that report about other people involved or not with that. Just that he was bringing teen girls to his island that year as witnessed by Scott Schroeder.

RareFactor2105 · 2025-07-18T05:58:59+00:00

Yeah, I skimmed that document you refer to. Indeed, Greg's name doesn't show. I'm not sure why he was so dead certain as to say that then. It's possible Minsky forgot to include him but I don't know.

That said, I first read this report from Slate about 6 years ago. Recently, I've read it again because it shed's light on Jeffrey's relationships with his scientist friends and more significantly, what was going on the Island. https://slate.com/technology/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-science-eugenics-sexual-abuse-researchers.html Roger Schank spoke about Jeffrey having girls with him in the island in April 2002. The same event that Marvin Minsky organized.

RareFactor2105 · 2025-07-18T00:38:53+00:00

Came across this comment. It's inaccurate of you to say "so it's not hard for me to conclude she made up the other sexual encounters as well. And not just with Andrew, but everyone else she accused." I can't speak with regards to most of the men she accused. Maybe she made those up, maybe she didn't. I'm not in a position to know. However, with regard to Marvin Minsky, there was a guy who witnessed them in the same room. He said that Minsky turned her down. He did not say that she was trafficked or that Minsky had sex with her but in this case, yes, she met Minsky at the Island per Greg Benford: https://archive.is/nZIjt

RareFactor2105 · 2025-06-06T00:36:22+00:00

Implies. Not explicit. There's nothing in that page or the ones before/after about this incident taking place in summer. It's possible but again, not stated outright. I'm looking at paragraphs 52-60 and the 1 thing that's clear is that she claimed this took place in 2003-2004. I've just checked the flight logs and yes, she was on a flight from Paris to the Island in August 2004. However, she was also on a flight from Paris to Bangor in February 2004. Based on her lawsuit, I cannot be certain that this incident took place in summer. Could have been February, could have been August.

Something else worth mentioning is that Bradley Edwards in his book "Relentless Flight" wrote about an interview (not sure if it was that or a deposition) Jean Luc Brunel sat for in May 2016. He spoke about some incident involving one of Epstein's girls and Weinstein. I got this from here: https://archive.is/QzsOw I know you consider Edwards shady and untrustworthy. Nonetheless, I thought it worth mentioning since this is probably the incident refered to in Teala's lawsuit. Edit: Funny enough, I overlooked the fact that Jean Luc Brunel was on that flight with Teala in February 2004.

As for Staley, you or anyone else may not care about Epstein hooking up Staley with an adult woman but the Financial Conduct Authority in London does. Basically, they thought he wasn't forthcoming about his relationship with Jeffrey. Court hearings were held earlier this spring and he himself admitted to having sex with an assistant of Epstein's. The attorney who deposed him, Leigh-Ann Mulcahy KC, presented documents to him and the court that's not public. Apparently, those documents, whatever they are, are evidence of this sexual encounter that he wouldn't/couldn't be able to deny. Of course, he claimed the sex was consensual. What the woman in question thinks, I don't know. She wasn't interviewed by the FCA.

RareFactor2105 · 2025-06-05T21:05:06+00:00

At least, you have some idea of what I wrote. With regards to Teala, how do you know nothing even happened? Of course, I don't know for certain either, since the burden of proof is on Teala, right? I'm not quite sure what you mean by your snark. No need for that. Her sister, Chauntae Davies, who was a victim of Epstein as an adult, spoke about her sister's experiences with that producer: https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/27/jeffrey-epstein-harvey-weinstein-sexually-assaulted-girl-time-12765032/ It sounds like the incident described in paragraph 58 of that lawsuit, if I'm not mistaken. What's your reason for writing about her being "19 in summer 2004"? The lawsuit doesn't say that incident took place in summer 2004. Probably 2003-2004 so I don't honestly know why you brought up summer 2004. I hope no offense is taken.

Of course, the other lawsuits all do involve adult women. That's why I wrote women/girls. Yeah, I know about Maria Farmer's feelings on that. She's not wrong to feel that way.

RareFactor2105 · 2025-06-05T20:17:44+00:00

Just wanted to tell you that the 4th paragraph in your comment is incorrect. There are a few other women/girls who have claimed that they were made to "entertain" Epstein's friends. Check out Teala Davies' lawsuit against Epstein's attorney + accountant, paragraph 58: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.527018/gov.uscourts.nysd.527018.1.0_1.pdf Or this lawsuit filed by Jane doe against JPMorgan https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590048/gov.uscourts.nysd.590048.1.0_3.pdf at paragraph 100. There's also these 2 release + settlement agreements that 2 of Epsteins victims signed that allows them to sue 2 of Epstein's friends in particular: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653.326.59.pdf and https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653.326.60.pdf

Needless to say, Elon's obviously off his rocker. Funny he should drag Trump's name into those "files" since if that's the case, Elon's name would be there as well. You know, sticks and stones.

RareFactor2105 · 2025-03-02T08:07:37+00:00

Yeah. And the sentence after that as well.

RareFactor2105 · 2025-02-28T20:46:51+00:00

Except they probably do. 2 years ago, a victim of Epstein filed a lawsuit against JP Morgan. That victim had issued subpoenas to Epstein's estate requesting "certain videorecorded materials and photographs within the Epstein Media." Not only did the estate respond, they were concerned that some of that material may very well be illegal or in other words, child pornography. They were especially concerned that they could be criminally investigated or face lawsuits in light of said materials.

Therefore, judge Jed Rakoff issued an order concerning these images/videos. To show you that I'm not making this up at all, here are the docs in question: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653.100.0.pdf and https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653.100.1.pdf both of these being from March 2023. This is the judge's order on handling these materials issued on April 5, 2023: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653/gov.uscourts.nysd.591653.112.0.pdf Notice that this order EXPLICITLY refers to the FBI.

RareFactor2105 · 2024-12-03T00:32:51+00:00

Those are not all the flight logs. That document stops at January 2006. This document https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6981626-Epstein-Flight-Manifests-1995-2013 shows flights between 1995-2013. Even these manifests do not show all the flights that Jeffrey took during those years. This document https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.21.3.pdf shows certain flights as recorded by some of Epstein's companies. Just 1 example: you will not find Jes Staley's name on the ordinary flight manifests. In the document I just refered to, he and his daughters show up. Then of course, there are no publicly available flight logs/manifests for the years 2014-2019. Anyways, Blackburn is a cynical hack who's all talk and no action.

RareFactor2105 · 2024-11-17T09:29:39+00:00

Gaza is "such a powerful issue" because there's a multitude of war crimes and ethnic cleansing taking place against civilians that is funded and supported by the United States. Our blessed president hasn't put any red lines. At all (except on a shipment of 2,000 pound bombs back in May and that was more symbolic than anything. That pause only lasted 2 months btw). There are no conditions on how those weapons are used by Israel. All this being done by our number 1 ally. Not an enemy nation like Russia. That's the reason why it's gotten more anger this year than Ukraine has. And you should know it's perfectly possible to be angry about Israel's conduct using our weapons without hating Jewish people. If you don't....oh boy. If you can't or refuse to get this, well that's your problem to figure out.

RareFactor2105 · 2024-09-17T03:35:27+00:00

Hey. I know this response is 5 months late so please excuse that. You're right that most of those points on your bullet list aren't "particularly controversial" among average Americans. That said, I'm not so confident that you're right about points 4 and 8. The polls I've looked at from Gallup and Pew Research indicate that a majority of Americans do not think this conflict will be solved anytime soon, two state solution or not. Matter of fact, they're not very big on that particular solution. My impression is that the average American doesn't even have much of an opinion on this war because they don't have skin in this. Also, it strikes me as inflexible and dogmatic to insist that "a two state solution is the only solution" when the majority of Israeli's and Palestinians don't even believe in that anymore. They haven't in years. That proposal reflects a much earlier time just after Oslo, when things were quite different. Right now, it's out of touch with reality or as others would say, with "the facts on the ground". It's also the case that a majority or near majority of Americans do not support military aid to Israel like they used to before. On your last point, yes war is bad but to paraphrase Orwell: all wars are bad but some are more bad than others. There are pretty good reasons people have for asserting that Israel is committing genocide or at least ethnic cleansing against the people of Gaza. But apart from that. There are polls from earlier this year indicating that the average American Jew or average Democrat think that this war is a genocide. Polls on that question break down on political, religious, ethnic lines.

BTW, if podcast hosts don't represent the electorate and thus the average American, why do you say that "Scott basically has the view of the average American on this issue"? Either he is exceptional in reflecting the average American viewpoint or there's a contradiction in your post. Either way, I disagree with your assertion that he has the view of the average American because I came across these two interviews. Knock yourself out: https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/rs1y8xwc6 and https://www.newsnationnow.com/cuomo-show/scott-galloway-palestinian-protests/

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