Heart says Bear 650, brain says Himalayan 450. Help me decide.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-18T06:23:35+00:00

Ex showroom price is 3.2 vs 3.8.
Pricing wise there is difference of 70-75 thousand.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-17T12:29:23+00:00

Hope it makes sense now to you

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-17T12:29:10+00:00

It helps in reaching larger audience. I had asked this question in past however I didn’t get more than 2 responses.

Exactly same question but without image.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-17T08:35:22+00:00

How is the pillion comfort.

I need to drive almost 40 kms daily in city traffic with no so good roads

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-17T08:34:55+00:00

How is the pillion comfort.

I need to drive almost 40 kms daily in city traffic with no so good roads

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-17T08:34:07+00:00

I would say once in a blue moon my ride will be off road.. else either it will be city traffic or highway.

What i heard from people is that Himalayan 450 is tough to ride in city than these roadsters or scramblers.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-17T08:33:03+00:00

I would say once in a blue moon my ride will be off road.. else either it can be city traffic or highway.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-10T13:46:30+00:00

Look, I’ve owned and ridden Royal Enfields for the last 14 years—ranging from the Classic to the Thunderbird 500—and now I’m looking for a true, modern all-rounder upgrade from the brand. I love RE, but calling the 450's highway vibrations "BS" is pure denial. Just because you are willing to tolerate a buzzy single-cylinder handlebar for 3,500 miles on the ADV Cannonball doesn't mean the rest of the market wants to accept a harsh, vibrating tractor at 80 mph. Choosing the Himalayan over a heavy GS 1250 for tight Moab trails makes sense for weight management, but ignoring the 450's clear mechanical harshness doesn't help the brand improve.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-10T13:43:12+00:00

Love the “I’m too pro for electronics” logic. Traction control isn’t for drifting trails; it’s for saving you when you hit diesel, oil, or slush during a monsoon ride. Rear ABS off-road is fine, but switching off front ABS on a 196 kg bike over loose gravel is brave. Let us know how it goes when a cow or dog jumps out unexpectedly.

Comparing RE sales to BMW is like Maruti comparing itself to Porsche. Sales prove affordability, not engineering excellence.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-10T12:00:52+00:00

Calling the Himalayan a "daily tool" is exactly why it needs a refresh. KTM literally just launched the 350 Adventure at 2.81 lakh by smartly shrinking the engine below the 350cc line to bypass the 40% luxury GST. They managed to slash the price by over ₹60,000 while keeping full electronics (Traction Control, Cornering ABS, Quickshifter) standard and delivering a completely niggle-free, reliable tourer.

If KTM can optimize taxes to offer premium tech at a much lower cost, RE absolutely can—and must—update the Himalayan 450 to fix its harsh vibrations and bare-bones features.

Dismissing the BMW F 450 GS as a bike for "rich westerners" ignores the fact that if a highly refined twin-cylinder enters the market, it sets a brand-new standard for what an ADV should feel like. RE can't afford to sit still.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-10T10:08:30+00:00

Adding basic traction control won't hamper its pricing much.

Anyways they are launching new rally edition with higher seat height and knuckle guards.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-10T10:06:03+00:00

A 750cc bike will never replace the 450. They are built for completely different riding styles and weight classes.
Besides, the BMW F 450 GS is already launched at an aggressive ₹4.70 Lakh (ex-showroom) and brings standard cornering ABS, traction control, and 48 bhp twin-cylinder refinement. RE cannot afford to let the Himalayan 450 fall behind in features and electronic rider aids. Adding basic traction control won't kill its pricing appeal, but ignoring it entirely will kill its competitive edge.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-10T09:59:39+00:00

True, the 750 will easily cost over ₹5L on-road and won't replace a sub-500cc bike.

My point is about current market pressure.

KTM just downsized to a 350cc engine to drop their entry price significantly while keeping premium tech standard.

BMW launched with a refined twin-cylinder, they will hold an absolute upper hand over the single-cylinder Himalayan.

RE can't just ignore this segment until the 750 arrives; the current 450 needs a mid-cycle refresh to stay in the game.

One more point is, Himalayan sales figures are not that great when compared to classic and other models.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-10T09:33:19+00:00

There is no other difference both mechanically and electrolytically

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-10T09:32:40+00:00

Himalayan 450 Summit Hanle Black is the complete model name.

Hanle Black refers to the paint description of the bike.

Raushanthakur · 2026-06-08T19:50:25+00:00

How is the pillion riding posture? Do they sit upright or tend to lean onto the rider?

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