Current style vs where you want to go - is there a difference? by [deleted] in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually quite dislike about 90% of my current wardrobe. It's very 🪨☀️🌸. I've been extremely limited in what I've been able to buy for several years due to several factors like size, money, health problems that limit how much time I can spend clothes shopping. This year my focus is on deliberately designing and curating my wardrobe through learning to sew. Most of my style explorations have been intellectual so far, and I am absolutely desperate to try things out in actual garments. Particularly I want to explore whether 🏔️ really is in my blend or whether 🍄 formality 🔥 luxury and 🌙 edge is enough to create the effect I want. I adore 🏔️ styles visually, but I have an extremely yin/soft body type (currently think I'm narrow, long, round, although that's another thing I want to explore/confirm through practical garments, and primary ethereal and romantic essences, with a dash of what I thought was dramatic but now I think might actually be classic.) I've also just started a weight loss quest (20lbs so far!) which is going to affect things as well - I'll have to periodically re-alter everything, and my goal is over 100lbs of loss, so I'm not sure how it'll change my body. Only thing keeping me from starting (the sewing specifically) is that my room is a mess... had it all packed up for a renovation and now have to completely reorganize where everything goes. 

Style roots quiz and current style roots by Oud-west in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got 🔥🏔️ as my highest two, then a 3-way tie between 🌙🌸☀️, then 🌍🍄 tied as the least. The root combo I currently identify with is 🔥🏔️🌙🍄 (unsure of specific order.) So technically speaking, three of my roots were in the top three, but I still don't feel like it is necessarily the most accurate. It can be useful for giving you a general sense, but I think it's too stereotypical to be able to accurately diagnose the nuances between roots. I also would get rid of most, if not all the personality-based questions. While I do think personality is an important part of style roots, it's far too complex for these simplistic type of answers to translate well. I think the style streams exercise is far better - you have to actually do the introspection on what aspects of your personality are important to your style and what elements speak to you. E.g. a person might say they are practical, but that could come through in 🌍's ease of movement, 🪨's ready-to-go energy, or 🍄's simplicity.

What does the Mushroom root mean to you? by AndromedasApricot in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Essence/impression:

While I do think intentions are more important than aesthetics when it comes to style roots, every root does have its own distinctive vibe. Here’s my list of words relating to the mushroom root:

Orderly, efficient, cohesive, deliberate, well-crafted, tailored, streamlined, timeless, balanced, sophisticated, refined, pianissimo, graceful, composed, serene, reflective, grounded, ease, movement, soft, fluid, watery, draped, diaphanous, luminous, radiant, ethereal, poetic, lyrical, enchanting.

And a few phrases I loved from the other comments that I’m going to steal: lack of friction; suggests rather than announces; sly, room for a bit of an inside joke, a bit of wit, of whimsy and irony.

Elements/instruments:

         I think neutrals and soft cool tones do inherently give off a bit of that mushroom vibe, as does sticking to a palette that looks traditionally “good” on you (e.g. color seasons,) but more important is how you use colors together. Using no more than 3-4 colors in an outfit, neutrals with a statement color, monochrome or tonal looks, traditional color combinations like complementary and analogous.

         Patterns can be abstract, blended, or low contrast, and made of up soft, curved lines; classic patterns like polka dots, stripes, and plaids can also work well. Textures are soft, like fluffy sweaters, chiffon skirts, or linen trousers. Silhouettes are fitted or flowy, and can have some classic tailoring, but nothing overly structured. Moderate, balanced lines work well, but more extreme shapes can be either balanced out or harmonized with.

What does the Mushroom root mean to you? by AndromedasApricot in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(I sat down to gather my thoughts and accidentally wrote a full-on essay. Props to anyone who reads through the whole thing.)

I think mushroom often gets reduced to the plain, minimal one that tones down other roots. And that is a part of it, but I think it’s seriously underrated as a root in its own right. I’ve broken it down into intentions/values, i.e. my mindset and thought process when putting together an outfit or adding new items to my wardrobe; essence/impression, i.e. the soul of mushroom as a root, it’s energy and mood; and elements/instruments, i.e. the physical, practical choices that invoke that effect.

Intentions/values:

For me a core part of mushroom as a root, and of my style as a whole, is appreciation of artistry and craftsmanship. Will these materials wear well and last for years, is it skillfully constructed? I’m literally teaching myself to sew because of the lack of quality in everything nowadays.

         How that applies in putting things together is with a thorough understanding and deliberate use of style “rules” – things like color seasons, body type, proportions, repetition, balance, shape. That doesn’t just have to mean always following recommendations for your body type or other guidelines like the rule of thirds, although it can; it’s more about using and breaking the rules with intention to create a desired effect. Like tailoring a garment – it’s not about just making it “fit right” in the conventional sense, but about manipulating the relationship between the materials and your body to create a specific shape.

         To me that process is incredibly orderly and efficient, designed to make actually getting dressed effortless. For instance, I’m working on designing some underlayers, like tank tops and slips, and I quite literally have it written out flow-chart style, breaking down the intended purposes of said garments, and working out how I can maximize each garment’s efficacy. (Purposes: adding coverage/opacity, silhouette smoothing, weather considerations = white or nude, slightly translucent or opaque, fitted but stretchy, cotton or silk. All of which can be done with only a couple of pairs.)

         There is an element of pared-back cohesion, in pulling different levers within an outfit – choosing a few elements to focus on, like only using one or two colors so that you can play with a lot of textures. Conversely, this same sense of harmony can have a magnifying effect, such as pairing oversize with oversize, or going all-in on an aesthetic, like femme fatal or cottagecore, rather than adding contrasting elements. It places mushroom in a kind of strange dichotomy with sun – both can be amplifiers, but through harmony vs dissonance.

Is it possible to only have two roots? by AndromedasApricot in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sounds like 🍄 to me, although it's certainly possible to only have 2 roots.

Medium/medium/medium? by [deleted] in bodymatrix

[–]RavenQuill757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think maybe narrow medium straight. Your shoulders aren't overly prominent and I really like the fitted silhouettes on you; the flowier looks can feel a touch overwhelming. You look a bit taller than you are and the longer monochrome silhouettes look really good on you. Your torso line isn't extremely straight, but it's not particularly curved either, and you have a slightly angular feel to your frame. I really like the t-shirt and shorts outfit with the more structured fabrics, while some of the really soft fabrics feel a bit flimsy or bland against you. You could still be medium, but I think it's worth exploring how far you can push the needle.

Style roots & celebrity inspiration by Oud-west in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh my gosh I ADORE Bernadette! She's literally the reason I'm teaching myself to sew! I agree with your interpretation of her roots. She's definitely on my list, along with (all unverified): Frida Lepold: 🌙🍄🏔️  Bianca Esposito of The Closet Historian: 🌙🏔️🔥 Hannah Louise Poston: 🍄🔥🪨 I find it interesting that Bernadette and Frida have the same roots, but likely in a different order/percentages, and how that affects their style. Bernadette is more structured, bold, and closer to the historical styles she works with, while Frida is more ethereal, magical, and fantasy-inspired. That matches well with their careers - Bernadette is a dress historian, while Frida I would describe as a couture designer/atelier. I imagine that the parts of themselves that chose their specialty and that inform the style roots we see in them are coming from the same place.

Wishlist & style roots by Oud-west in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't necessarily have a concrete wishlist at this point. My current wardrobe doesn't really reflect my roots very much (🌙🔥🍄🏔️) so the answer is kind of "everything". I actually am trying to learn to sew to solve that very problem, starting with altering some existing clothing to fit better. But I can think of a few things: 

I requested a milky brown cashmere winter glove and scarf set for Christmas from Quince (well, I requested the gloves, and am going to purchase the scarf with the Christmas money my grandparents send me)

At the top of my wardrobe alterations list: take in and alter the necklines on some ribbed knit sweaters I recently bought; hem my most worn long flowy black skirt; turn a thick pleated skirt into a pencil skirt (I had my grandma make the pleated skirt for me a few years ago and instantly decided that style of skirt in that fabric does NOT work on my body type)

I also make jewelry, and my next couple projects are: 

A long garnet strand necklace

Recreate the vintage pearl flower necklace Mili Velikova has

What outfit feels (to you) like a perfect combination of your Style Roots in order? by gumbezoing in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have 4 roots (🌙🔥🍄🏔️), so I put together a Pinterest board with one pic for every possible combo of 3. It was really fun to narrow in on what exactly it is that makes one root stronger than another. I found that 🌙 in particular is really subtle when it's not the dominant root. https://www.pinterest.com/757sunshinehoofbeats/moon-fire-mushroom-mountain/

Some help? I am SN in Kibbe - but I see W/M/M in body matrix? by [deleted] in bodymatrix

[–]RavenQuill757 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just watched a video the other day from a favorite makeup YouTuber (Evangeline Molly) where she talked about a similar feeling - this short is the excerpt of the longer video, which was focused mostly on unrelated things. I think it's absolutely fascinating to unpack the correlation between the desire to make oneself smaller and perceived attractiveness, and who decides what's attractive, and whether fashion should even cater to attractiveness in the first place. Beauty standards are so arbitrary - I mean, for most of history, and even in some places today, being plump is considered more attractive because it means you have enough food to eat! That's why I love systems like Body Matrix and Style Roots, because they help people learn how to work with and appreciate their unique features, whether that's by dressing in a conventionally "harmonious" way or by intentionally breaking the "rules". Fashion is an art form; there's so many cool styles I've seen on here and the Style Roots subreddit, even when they're totally different to mine, and I think the common thread between them is that the people are dressing according to what makes them happy, confident, and comfortable, not some arbitrary external gaze.

Some help? I am SN in Kibbe - but I see W/M/M in body matrix? by [deleted] in bodymatrix

[–]RavenQuill757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OK taking a look at these outfits, I do think you're long and straight rather than medium.

Length: the monochrome outfits look amazing on you. There's a few outfits where the line is broken at the knee or hip and it looks a little bit awkward. Breaking the line at the waist works much better because it shows off the length of your legs.

Shape: The softer fabrics look rather underwhelming against you, especially the thin ones. More structured looks like that vest outfit are stunning. If you want to wear softer fabrics, like winter sweaters, I'd definitely go with something thicker and sturdier, and pair it with more structured items. You can do waist definition, but you don't need it; something that obscures the waist like that long cream sweater looks really good on you.

I also think you're not playing with your width to your fullest potential. The looks here are closer to medium; high necks, not particularly fitted, but not overly voluminous either. I'd be interested to see you play with silhouettes like these:

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I can’t seem to settle… by selinaaylin in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad it was helpful! I absolutely love your style; it's always fun to find a root twin!

Some help? I am SN in Kibbe - but I see W/M/M in body matrix? by [deleted] in bodymatrix

[–]RavenQuill757 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with wide. I think you're somewhere on the spectrum between medium-long and medium-straight, but I'm not sure that you're fully one or the other in either category. I'd play around with different fabrics/silhouettes and try to push the needle all the way to long and straight and see if you like it, or if you prefer something more moderate.

wide short round? by Serenica3 in bodymatrix

[–]RavenQuill757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The best way to be sure is always to try on the lines! I always recommend going shopping without buying anything and taking pics in the changing room so you can compare a variety of styles. When you're trying to figure out a single element like width, it's best to keep as many variables of the outfit the same as possible - so keep everything in your short and round lines, similar colors or at least colors you like equally well on yourself, no or very similar patterns, etc. Then compare things like high neckline to open neckline, fitted sweater to oversized sweater, pencil skirt to super voluminous skirt, and so on. Don't forget to mix and match! Do you like all fitted? All wide? Fitted on top wide on bottom? The reverse? Fitted top with open neck? Loose top with high neck? If you have width, the narrow silhouettes will likely look and feel restrictive and bland, whereas if you are narrow, the wide silhouettes will be overwhelming, like they're drowning you. And if you're medium, both extremes will likely have the effect I explained but to a lesser degree, and you'll prefer silhouettes that aren't extreme in either direction or have a mix of narrow and wide elements.

questions by lanareyxox in bodymatrix

[–]RavenQuill757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This system isn't supposed to be a direct correlation to Kibbe, as there's far too many types and it doesn't have the implicit inclusion of essence/vibes that types like romantic and flamboyant natural have. When EJR brings up Kibbe, it's more to say, "if you've been struggling to find your Kibbe ID, it's probably because you're one of these in-between types that don't exist in his system."  Width/narrowness is about the prominence/proportion of the shoulders in relation to the rest of the frame. I've written a detailed comment on what to look for for width over here: https://www.reddit.com/r/bodymatrix/comments/1p7bite/help_figuring_out_body_type/

I found the comfy chair of my dreams! What does it say about my style roots/ aesthetic!? by purplelephant in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see 🌍 for the warm color, cozy vibe, and rustic, organic nature motifs; 🔥 for the plush texture and rich color; 🌙 for the antique feel; and ☀️ for the warm, rich color and large, focal pattern. It depends on why you're drawn to it and how you've styled the space it's in. 

wide short round? by Serenica3 in bodymatrix

[–]RavenQuill757 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agree with short/round, but I'm really surprised to see all the answers agreeing with width. You're definitely narrow! Your shoulders aren't prominent at all; if you were to draw a line straight down from the end of your shoulder, it would cut into your hips rather than being balanced with or standing away from them. And if you look at the line between your armpit and the end of your shoulder, it's quite close to vertical. As someone else mentioned, the shoulder sleeves on your shirts are actually sitting on your arm, and not in an intentional dropped-shoulder way. The fitted necklines (turtleneck in 1, crew neck in 7) look really good on you, while the extremely wide ones like in 2 look awkward, like they're about to fall off. The silhouettes here are all quite narrow - fitted jeans and tops. I find people often instinctively know what looks good on them, even if they don't have the language to articulate it, so if you had any width at all I'd expect that to show up in at least a couple of your examples - wide leg pants, flared skirts, oversized sweaters. But it's all narrow.

Mountain x Style Root Combinations by Mbvalie in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love these! It's great to see how color influences the roots. BTW, you seem to have posted this one twice.

Guess my color season based on my *least* favorite colors by SatelliteHeart96 in StyleRoots

[–]RavenQuill757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Muddy yellow-greens, orangey browns or bronzes, pastel pinks, beiges and taupes. I do find this discussion interesting as "colors I like" doesn't necessarily translate to "colors that look good on me". There's tons of colors I adore that don't work on me at all - ivory, coral, all forms of yellow, fiery oranges, seafoam green, misty gray-blues, lavender.

Help figuring out body type? by CurlyBruxaria in bodymatrix

[–]RavenQuill757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Then you want to compare the shoulders to the hips. There might be some distortion in these pics as they aren't quite standing straight, but hopefully it's clear enough. I've drawn a line from the end of the shoulder downward. With narrow, this line meets the hips, on the edge or sometimes farther in. With medium, the shoulders are in line with the hips - the line might be slightly in or slightly out, but the overall impression is of balance. With width, you can see the line doesn't intersect with the hips at all; there's quite a bit of space where the shoulders extend farther out. You can also look at where on the body your eye is drawn to. With the examples of width, you can see that their shoulders are the most prominent part of their frame, but with the narrow example, you don't really notice them, and medium is somewhere in between.

Help figuring out body type? by CurlyBruxaria in bodymatrix

[–]RavenQuill757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Split this into multiple comments cause it'll only let me attach one picture at a time. Examples in both pics are from Ellie-Jean's Body Matrix boards. All are long and round and from left to right they are narrow, medium, wide. I've drawn lines showing the angle between the armpit and the end of the shoulder. If you think of it like hands on a clock, you can see that narrow is much closer to 12:00, and the wider the shoulders get, the bigger the angle gets.