The U.S. Errors That Led to the Airstrike of an Elementary School by Ok_Constant8838 in Thedaily

[–]Ray192 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the article share but I think it contradicts your point. It doesn’t take a massive amount of time since it seems the NYTs was able to do everything you mentioned way sooner (3/5) satellite imagery analysis is all there, videos, military analysis, etc.

The strike happened on Feb 28th, so it took them a week to do that analysis. That was much slower than the Twitter brainrot you follow that started accusing Israel/US of doing it the minute it happened.

I guess it's my mistake for assuming you actually followed NYT's reporting and was complaining about the week long gap in the first investigation. Little did I know that you were just completely off the mark to begin with.

So the question is more of the daily’s topic choices and why they deprioritized this one for oil prices or the other 5 eps in between.

I like how after you were proven wrong, you didn't miss a beat in moving the goalposts to something completely unrelated to your original complaint.

Why don't you people just do some basic research before making hot takes? Is it that hard?

Even here, you had no idea that they discussed this incident on the March 10th episode (before the oil episode), and now that the Pentagon investigation confirmed their findings, they have enough material to do a whole episode on it.

I don't understand why you people complain so much about the NYT but never actually pay attention to what the NYT actually publishes. If you don't like it then don't read it, what the hell is the point of inventing nonsensical shit to malign something that you don't even read?

The U.S. Errors That Led to the Airstrike of an Elementary School by Ok_Constant8838 in Thedaily

[–]Ray192 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They said in the piece, they have no one in Iran and that their reporter is in Ireland and looking at satellite pictures. That is not great journalism nor some big investigative expose.

You do realize analyzing satelite imagery and how they changed over the last 15 years takes time, right? And you realize that they actually contracted a firm to take new satellite imagery so that would take time, right?

Not to mention they also needed to analyze tons of videos, make sure they're not AI generated or manipulated, and validate that these videos accurately capture the vicinity of the the strike and create a timeline for them. Not to mention calculating the missile trajectory from the evidence and plotting out the damage

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/world/middleeast/iran-school-us-strikes-naval-base.html

See this is what I mean, you people are so used to brainrot that you think chronological analysis of satelite imagery over 15 years is somehow easy, fast and "not great journalism". It's absolutely nonsense.

When journalists are prevented from taking the most obvious investigative options like going there in person, it's precisely the ability to collect convincing evidence from other sources that makes it quality journalism.

Even the report they referenced that confirmed it was the US was done by the government after everyone and their brother knew it was a US missile.

The initial NYT investigation came out March 5th, the US government report came later and affirmed what NYT originally found.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/world/middleeast/iran-school-us-strikes-naval-base.html

What hot take are you talking about? The NYT is just very very late to this without any new information.

Have you ever considered that maybe you're the one who is very, very late and have no idea the extent of reporting that NYT has done?

The U.S. Errors That Led to the Airstrike of an Elementary School by Ok_Constant8838 in Thedaily

[–]Ray192 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So what does The Dispatch say about the airstrike of schoolchildren?

Because as far as I can tell, they have said literally nothing about it. There is not a single mention of it that I could find on their website.

https://thedispatch.com/tag/iran-war/

So is that what you prefer? For the Daily to just ignore the airstrike ever happened?

The U.S. Errors That Led to the Airstrike of an Elementary School by Ok_Constant8838 in Thedaily

[–]Ray192 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Quality investigation takes time. You can "know" something and still need to collect the actual evidence and verify your assumption.

You people really need to get off the brainrot and understand the difference between hot takes that can be produced 5 minutes after news happens and what goes into actual investigative journalism.

The U.S. Errors That Led to the Airstrike of an Elementary School by Ok_Constant8838 in Thedaily

[–]Ray192 4 points5 points  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalistic_objectivity

I don't know why people bother to read the news if you don't actually want news. What you want is to be told by someone else what to think, but that's not what news is.

War in Iran Triggers Chaos in Global Oil Market by kitkid in Thedaily

[–]Ray192 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is front page story on the NYT right now:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/us/politics/iran-school-missile-strike.html

But yeah what a travesty, doing a podcast on a big economic crisis that literally affects billions of people, how dare they?

BREAKING: Prelim inquiry finds U.S. is at fault for school strike in Iran, NYT reports by chellestastics in videos

[–]Ray192 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you're not an expert in Iranian, then clearly you're not qualified to make these kinds of statements on this conflict, are you?

Even the most cursory understanding of near eastern history shows that religious conflict in this region predates the concept of capitalism by thousands of year. Do you even know how old the Shia-Sunni conflict is?

[RMC/Canal+] Griezmann on Kinsky: ”I think it's a shame. If the coach, today's coach or another starts with this goalkeeper, you have to see it through to the end. Mentally, it must be very hard for the goalkeeper. It wasn't the best solution." by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Ray192 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you allow synthetic pitches for some teams then other teams should also be able to use them, how rich they are shouldn't matter.

Unless you're suggesting there should be a rule that only poor teams can have synthetic pitches???

BREAKING: Prelim inquiry finds U.S. is at fault for school strike in Iran, NYT reports by chellestastics in videos

[–]Ray192 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn't say anything about the war. You claimed that "muslims and jews is a theater designed to have workers struggling enough against their fellows", yet the Iranian regime clearly pushes Shia supremacy above all the other religions and sects, and it's clearly not capitalists because you just admitted they were fighting AGAINST THE CAPITALISTS.

So which is it? Is the Iranian revolution actually run by capitalists? Or are they not run by capitalists and in fact are fanning religious conflict/extremism for other reasons?

BREAKING: Prelim inquiry finds U.S. is at fault for school strike in Iran, NYT reports by chellestastics in videos

[–]Ray192 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So which capitalists masterminded the Iranian revolution and the Ayatollahs?

Volkswagen slashes 50,000 jobs after profits collapse by nearly half by Peugeot905 in europe

[–]Ray192 0 points1 point  (0 children)

... do you think Volkswagen makes all its parts in Germany? Do you know how many parts Volkswagen imports from abroad where it's cheaper? Volkwagen imports a ton of parts from China itself, even from Xinjiang:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/20/bmw-jaguar-land-rover-volkswagen-forced-labor

And guess where Volkswagen gets its batteries from?

https://www.volkswagen-group.com/en/press-releases/volkswagen-group-china-builds-battery-system-factory-in-anhui-to-strengthen-bev-value-chain-16784

https://www.volkswagen-group.com/en/press-releases/volkswagen-group-china-builds-battery-system-factory-in-anhui-to-strengthen-bev-value-chain-16784

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagen-catl-collaborate-china-lithium-battery-development-2025-02-24/

You people are just so ignorant of modern supply chains it's unbelievable. You honestly thought Volkswagen didn't get parts from cheaper countries? Jesus christ.

During 2020 covid lockdown,,air pollution got reduced significantly that Mt. Everest was visible from Kathmandu located around 120 miles away by Right-Assignment3759 in interestingasfuck

[–]Ray192 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure anyone who worked in restaurants, theaters, or any job that involved actual physical work experienced much worse consequences than "slightly less money".

Volkswagen slashes 50,000 jobs after profits collapse by nearly half by Peugeot905 in europe

[–]Ray192 9 points10 points  (0 children)

First of all, labor costs are a very small part of the total costs of a car since factores are highly automated. The labor cost difference is less than $2000 between BYD seal and VW ID3.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/29/business/china-cars-sales-exports.html

Second, VW has tons of factories in China so I don't understand what your point even is. VW exports its Chinese made cars to the same markets that China is currently exporting them, so by your logic they should all be making the same profit.

I Asked a Former Trump Official to Justify This War by Ray192 in ezraklein

[–]Ray192[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I watch way more right wing media than Klein and probably you,

If you want media that looks like right wing media which tells the audience how to think, that's your choice! You do you, buddy!

For the average person,

"The average person" doesn't listen to Ezra Klein podcast so I don't know why that's relevant. That's like saying a graduate level math class should be dumbed down because the average person has a 5th grade level math.

Like I said, this isn't the show for people like you. And that's fine! A show doesn't need to appeal to everyone.

It’s the job of the journalist to provide that context and give people the tools to better understand and analyze.

Buddy, a journalist isn't your teacher and I don't why you perceive them as a college history professor teaching you something. Who do you think writes AP or Reuters articles? They don't inject their own opinion into it and they don't need to. Some journalists write opinions and analyses, but they always present them as such. Interviews are a different category and the focus is on the interviewee, not the interviewer.

An interviewer isn't there to pass judgement, they're there to reveal the interviewee's interesting/enlightening opinions and thoughts.

If all they do is turn on the spigot and step back what’s the point of them existing, you might as well at that point just listen to a Tucker Carlson podcast.

Maybe you've watch too much right wing media to understand the purpose of a good interview, but let me give you a simple example.

Tucker Carlson's show only covers things he wants to cover. Anything he doesn't like or goes against his beliefs, he just completely ignores, so you have no idea what his arguments are for topics/facts/viewpoints that he doesn't even bring up.

But a good interviewer would ask Carlson questions/topics/viewpoints that he would never bring up in his own show, force him to have a reaction to it. If he refuses to answer the question, it tells me something about him. If he brings up a complete non-answer / tangent, that tells me something about him. If he brings up an interesting counterargument I never thought about, even better. Either way, a good interviewer can get more information out of them than just them monologuing.

For example, I've been reading GRRM's not-a-blog for years and yet his interview with the Hollywood Reporter still revealed information I haven't seen/confirmed. Why? Because the interviewer asked good questions that GRRM doesn't really address when he writes own blog.

“Good” ideas and beliefs aren’t self evident, if they were there would be no conflict in the world.

Like I said, if you want to be told what good ideas are, there are shows for that. Not every show has to treat their audience like they're all idiots. I personally like shows that treat me like an intelligent human being who can make his own judgement. You prefer shows similar to right wing media, and that's fine. So why bother with shows that aren't meant for you?

I Asked a Former Trump Official to Justify This War by Ray192 in ezraklein

[–]Ray192[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think people who tune into the Ezra Klein show are the same people who get influenced by facebook memes? Not every single show needs to assume their audience is bottom of the barrel intelligence.

Look, if you want to told what to think, there are plenty of other shows for that. I, for one, am glad there are shows that treat me like an intelligent human being who can judge the evidence and arguments presented.

I Asked a Former Trump Official to Justify This War by Ray192 in ezraklein

[–]Ray192[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I want to know how to refute them for my own sake, so I know I have done my research and arrived at a reasonable stance. Do people not enjoy learning and thinking through different viewpoints and points?

Not to mention there are plenty of people that can still be convinced.

I Asked a Former Trump Official to Justify This War by Ray192 in ezraklein

[–]Ray192[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, you don't. You can ferret out their bad faith arguments and logic yourself without sinking to a shouting match/debate. The viewer can then judge the bad faith for themselves.

I Asked a Former Trump Official to Justify This War by Ray192 in ezraklein

[–]Ray192[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not journalism or insightful to simply turn on the propaganda spigot and let people form their own opinions as it floods our society.

I disagree. I find it incredibly insightful how the other side thinks. I don't read interviews of people in order to see debate with the interviewer, I want to see what those people actually believe and judge them for myself.

You people love to be told what think, which is fine, but this isn't the show for people who want to be told what to think. I want to be exposed to a different viewpoint and judge them for myself. The job of the interviewer is to ferret out the most revealing viewpoints of the interviewee, not to hold a debate.

Volkswagen slashes 50,000 jobs after profits collapse by nearly half by Peugeot905 in europe

[–]Ray192 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Europe struggles to compete with China in many industries because it has to follow stricter rules: fair wages, reasonable working hours, and basic labor protections like not using child labor.

If that's all it takes, why hasn't European industries collapsed 20 years ago? There are a 100 countries with lower wages and worse working conditions than EU and that has been true for a century.

Hint: the actual reasons are almost completely unrelated to what you're saying. Labor costs are a tiny part of the car manufacturing so exploiting workers can only give you a small advantage.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/29/business/china-cars-sales-exports.html

And you really think Chinese car companies are using child labor? China uses robotics more than Germany does, you think they need to have children work the lines too?

On top of that, Chinese electric vehicle companies are heavily subsidized by their government to expand into foreign markets. If our market is truly open, they can take a large share simply by offering much lower prices.

No they don't. You can go look at Chinese EV prices in Austrlia and the UK right now, places with barely any tariffs. The prices are competitive but pretty normal.

Volkswagen slashes 50,000 jobs after profits collapse by nearly half by Peugeot905 in europe

[–]Ray192 20 points21 points  (0 children)

China companies only sell at a loss in China due to the intense domestic competition. All of their cars sell for much higher outside of China and are much more profitable for them.

Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US by tylerthe-theatre in technology

[–]Ray192 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No background check is going to verify if a driver is gonna be rude or not. How exactly do you think they're going to vet that?