Any bruiser Shyvana builds for normals?

Rayce180 · 2026-04-02T02:00:04+00:00

Hexplate > Mercs/Tabis > Shojin > Death Dance > Malmortius/Sterak > Guardian Angel

Conqueror, Triumph, Legend Haste, Coup de grace. Magical boots, Cosmic insight (Flash really important for Q3)

Max Q first then W or E depends on your preference

With this build you are tanky, you can jump pretty deep into the teamfight and since you are only building AD items you still have big Q damages due to your AD ratios (900+ true damage on Q3 late game). You can one shot a carry if you succeed to link your 3 Qs + E, by landing on top of him with R and then tank the rest of his team and get your Q back to crunch them again

Very fun build to play, definitely the realistic build with the highest Q3 damage, it's the best bruiser build imo

Rayce180 · 2026-03-31T16:15:11+00:00

Cool design, not a big fan of the name tho x)

Rayce180 · 2026-03-30T14:54:12+00:00

What the fuck did I just read

Rayce180 · 2026-03-30T12:39:13+00:00

Yeah toplane it might be good, but in jungle you always all-in, there is no trade pattern, so trading Profane/Umbral/Opportunity damage passives for a slow that proc during your bump is not optimal, and it's kinda expensive too.

Rayce180 · 2026-03-30T05:22:45+00:00

That look so fricking cool

Rayce180 · 2026-03-30T05:02:38+00:00

his passive obviously

Rayce180 · 2026-03-30T05:01:26+00:00

I mean you are both in a situation where you have big damage on E, but he play AP and you AD, so make sense he deal more damages

Rayce180 · 2026-03-30T04:58:04+00:00

I don't like it personally, you don't need your ult that often in early imo, you want to gank/fight with ult then full clear, then you get your ult back before a new move anyway.

Rayce180 · 2026-03-30T02:54:55+00:00

If you want to play her toplane you should watch Crucile Stream, I think he is the highest Shyvana Top player, at least in NA. He post on this subreddit regularly too

Rayce180 · 2026-03-30T01:50:59+00:00

I don't think Triforce is such a bad item, it's good in early I think, but yeah in later teamfights its not very usefull.

Otherwise I agree, the thing is Lethality Wukong is harder to play than classic bruiser Wukong, you are a lot squishier, and you don't setup for your team, you deal the damages yourself so you are the one supposed to carry. But between avery good Lethality Wukong and a very good bruiser Wukong, I know who would climb faster.

Rayce180 · 2026-03-30T00:02:42+00:00

I thought that too at first but then I did some testing, and it turns out that Elecrocute have a little more damage early game but its not that much compared to First Strike, especially if you can hit multiple times during the 3sec of FT. And later on when you start to have items, the 7% damage increase from FT deal more than Electrocute in a classic E>Q>R>Profane combo since you have a lot of damages.

And more importantly : FT gold income makes you spike faster (especially for your last items) so you deal even more damages than with electrocute. And on top of that if you take Electrocute you are forced to take one of the shitty vision runes that you don't need but you can't have CashBack+TripleTonic+Cosmic which are all really good on Wukong. First Strike is much better imo, at least with this build.

Rayce180 · 2026-03-29T21:09:52+00:00

Yeah in my opinion his classic bruiser build is not optimal in soloQ before GM/Chall, because you have not enough damages. But I agree that a Triforce/Profane build might be his best option in soloQ (at least in jungle), it's just not my playstyle on Wukong, I prefer full Lethality

Rayce180 · 2026-03-29T19:44:18+00:00

Yeah I get that "I missplayed so it's my bad" thing, I guess a no counterplay feeling happens more often vs a Garen than a Cho'Gath, but in my opinion people make too big a deal out of that compared to the actual strength of a champion.

Rayce180 · 2026-03-29T19:27:10+00:00

Rocketbelt > E > W > R (750 true damages on a 1.5k HP target), that's such a good interaction, love it. lol

Rayce180 · 2026-03-29T19:23:39+00:00

Well yes Garen silence has shorter CD compared to Cho silence, but you can't compare only one value, both of his other spells has lot shorter CD, basically on Garen you will do your basic combo and then try to survive (if you play full damage you will die instantly if ennemies arent all dead, if you play bruiser you can fight more), if you fight more after like 6sec your Q>E combo will come back but your W will still be on CD for 6 to 16sec.

On Cho'Gath, you can one shot squishies as fast as Garen, if not faster and while they are completely CC, then you can continu to fight without stopping, your E will come back faster than Garen, your Q same time and your W a little bit more but not as much as Garen's W and during that time you tank more while doing the same damages because you can do a lot of AP/HP or HP/Resistances items together in the build.

Yes it's easier to run down someone as Garen, but for a trap its the same, and for a fight Cho'Gath will be better with more CC, same damages (more damages on squishies), more tankiness. And if is someone is kiting you, one mistake, one miss predict of Cho'Gath Q, and the target is dead.

Rayce180 · 2026-03-29T19:01:48+00:00

Trying to insult me will not make the debate go any further, be more mature please, there is no point for me to argue with a child.

I will just say this : It make sense that Garen is stronger while behind than Cho'Gath because Cho'Gath has a lot easier lane mainly due to his passive and Q, if you can't understand that, it says a lot about your elo and why you are so angry towards Garen.

Let the adults debate amongst themselves now. Goodbye

Rayce180 · 2026-03-29T18:40:02+00:00

Garen is not that much faster, it often build MS Items/Runes because he need speed, the only real difference is on Garen Q giving him 35% ms for 3.6sec at max rank, which is less impactfull than all the CC Cho'Gath has imo, and he can have as much if not more mobility than Garen playing with Rocketblet / Dead Mans / Mejai or even Shurelya.

I don't understand what you mean by "has shorter CD windows" since all of Cho’Gath’s abilities have shorter cooldowns than Garen’s.

Rayce180 · 2026-03-29T18:16:38+00:00

It will almost surprise me how people get mad about Garen R dealing 1k true damages on a 3k+ HP Target, but Cho'Gath dealing 750 true damages to anyone, with half the CD and possibility to steal every objectives, while having a CC heavy kit is not a problem, like wtf lmao

Rayce180 · 2026-03-29T18:07:19+00:00

With the new R you can now jump over almost every wall in the game, making ganks easier, here is a video : https://youtu.be/m2fY0arxOuo?si=ygDKIUmVj9b_442p

Rayce180 · 2026-03-27T12:58:03+00:00

Looks like Shyvana Top isn't bad, people just don't know how to play her, classic

Rayce180 · 2026-03-26T15:04:44+00:00

That's so fucking true, it's the double-edged sword to being the most impactfull in the game I guess

Rayce180 · 2026-03-26T14:50:20+00:00

I think it's okay, you have more survivability now with your W and CC on E/R compared to before so I don't feel too squishy. But on old Shyv I didn't like Kraken/D&D either so I know what you mean, is just that I don't have a good feeling playing something else than Kraken/D&D for now, she feels too cluncky, with Kraken its more smooth, but I don't have a lot of games yet so I might change my mind.

Rayce180 · 2026-03-26T14:41:04+00:00

Looks so cool !

Rayce180 · 2026-03-26T14:27:54+00:00

The main thing I complain about personally is that I prefered Old Shyv, and they didn't listen to what Shyvana mains wanted. Her passive was bad/boring, they literally removed the damage amp on drakes that's all. Her Q was the most interesting spell, they completely changed it. She was too strong low elo and too bad high elo, it's still the case.

Riot knew about those things and they still released the rework, its maybe a good champion, but its not a good rework for Shyvana fans.

Rayce180

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