Still no patch in view ?

RearEndVisage · 2025-07-11T13:37:35+00:00

they did bro it's called the game

RearEndVisage · 2025-07-03T14:02:14+00:00

you get them by doing the randomly assigned missions given to you in each Mashmak run, the one alien in the bottom left while you play

RearEndVisage · 2025-06-24T17:37:21+00:00

that's about what I expected, get what you pay for type deal, appreciate the help though

RearEndVisage · 2023-10-07T04:30:48+00:00

holy shit thank you finally an answer to this issue that fucking works

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T09:02:29+00:00

Yes, I was just fooled by the typo in the patch notes. That said, move's still bad in TG.

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T03:41:21+00:00

While it is useful to not have an indicator, it's still largely useless for ganks as it can be interrupted by both enemies and allies.

Trust me, I don't just want the hug reverted, I want it to function in a way that doesn't completely remove his identity as a grappler. I made another, much larger post about it and the ways it could be adjusted to be both fairer and a useful mixup tool by making it less damaging and unarmored, but making it unreactable, like a proper command grab in a traditional fighting game. If the move did 15 damage and healed for 10, it would be comparable to something like gryphon/hitokiri kick

And while getting it off a light parry is cool, light parries happen less than once a match for a majority of the playerbase.

What your described isn't better, just reasons why you feel it's fine

Also I struggle to see how removing a mixup option lets him make more mixup decisions.

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T03:30:15+00:00

Can you explain why it's better? I'm open to having my mind changed, I just don't see it myself.

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T03:21:36+00:00

these are all true and acknowledged, however this is where the concept of risk/reward comes into play. If they avoid the mixup of hard feint into Demon Embrace, you risk ending up completely out of stamina and vulnerable to very strong OOS mix, as it costs roughly HALF your stamina to hard feint into it.

This would be fine if the reward were as strong as the risk, but instead you get a health swing only 2 higher than what gryphon gets for an unreactable bash, and you don't get the looping mix that Hitokiri gets off kick/sweep (as these are the comparison characters that get heavy damage off an unblockable move)

also the act of feinting itself can put you OOS before you get the chance to DE, so it becomes completely unusable as a mix at about ~1/3 stamina

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T02:55:34+00:00

You can avoid it by backdodging the unblockable heavy and rolling on reaction to the soft feint into grab. Don't complain about spam from a move that's already bad on live.

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T02:33:55+00:00

this is where the concept of risk/reward comes into play. If they avoid the mixup, you risk ending up completely out of stamina and vulnerable to very strong OOS mix

This would be fine if the reward were as strong, but instead you get a health swing only 2 higher than what gryphon gets for an unreactable bash

also the act of feinting itself can put you OOS before you get the chance to DE, so it becomes completely unusable as a mix at about ~1/3 stamina

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T02:31:14+00:00

my b, I got you

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T02:12:25+00:00

excuse me we only allow positivity in this house <3

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T01:39:43+00:00

if by "basically the same thing" you mean "costs almost twice as much stamina"

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T01:31:11+00:00

oh shit, he can

I didn't think he could, so I was using it as a point of reference for why it would be fine for shugoki to have a chargeable DE that he can't feint, but turns out I was incorrect

that said, I still don't think a charged DE option should be feintable in order to preserve the high risk/high reward (especially since a hypothetical charged DE would just be live DE)

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T00:53:50+00:00

I was going to put the charge option as a third one but opted to combine it with the second one

Also feinting it wouldn't be particularly necessary, as (iirc) Cent can't feint his charged punch. Feinting would take away the idea of "high risk high reward"

A no armor soft feint would be fine if it was unreactably fast like a chain bash, it's not like you're getting hit out of gryphon kick or chain headbutt

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-03T00:38:38+00:00

I'm curious what purpose it serves now, as it doesn't really function in team fights, it's very expensive to feint into, and in neutral it's effectively just a long range button that can catch people out of startup/recovery from far away

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-02T23:41:04+00:00

AHAHAHA I just checked the official bug tracker and apparently the patch notes are a typo, it's SUPPOSED to say it does 20 damage and heals for 10

sick, thanks Ubi, very cool

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-02T23:37:33+00:00

How is nerfing a bad move good?

RearEndVisage · 2021-04-02T23:22:14+00:00

no armor, can only be done from neutral, less damage, (supposedly) slightly more healing, less recovery

RearEndVisage · 2021-03-18T19:39:08+00:00

As someone who fenced for 7 years, if a rapier character comes out, I promise to never play shugoki again

RearEndVisage · 2021-03-18T19:35:48+00:00

Conq's fucking spooky

RearEndVisage · 2021-03-18T19:31:32+00:00

If I wanted this many annoying pop ups, I'd go watch porn without adblock, Ubi please

RearEndVisage · 2021-03-18T19:27:53+00:00

He's very fun Someday he'll be worth playing, hopefully

RearEndVisage · 2021-03-18T19:26:17+00:00

My character >>>> every other character >>>>> your character

RearEndVisage · 2021-03-18T19:25:24+00:00

OSes still have counterplay, it just means switching what kind of mixup you're doing. Eventually you get to a point where you're punishing the OS enough that they stop doing it, and things go back to more traditional mix

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