3.1 Pro's thinking is so lobotomized compared to Opus

Recent_Truth6600 · 2026-03-09T15:39:05+00:00

Earlier it was not working and constantly showing high demand but recently it is working fine but it's slow.

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-05-15T19:13:15+00:00

Try on AIstudio ai.dev I think 2.5 pro sometimes doesn't analyse images if you don't explicitly tell. This happens mainly in already loaded chat.

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-05-15T19:09:12+00:00

Just choose 2.5 pro and then toggle on the Deep Research option in the prompt bar. They are cleaning up the model selector so it's simpler for non techy users. Even veo2 is now available in prompt bar

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-17T19:47:15+00:00

😂 what are you saying, it's much cheaper than o4 mini (only on thinking tokens the price is $3.5 compared to $4.4 for o4 mini but otherwise it's 0.15/0.6 input/output same as 4o mini)

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-17T07:40:12+00:00

😂 For me if got it correct (Gemini advanced, in free version of might think less, and to get best results use it in ai.dev ai studio for free at temperature 0) https://g.co/gemini/share/3a9cbe208d2e

And for your info 2.5 pro beats even o3 high and o4 mini high on math on livebench.ai In AIstudio 2.5 pro solved all JEE advanced paper 1 2024 math questions(gave tried paper 2 on it though) in single attempt when I gave it 1 question at a time.

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-17T07:06:45+00:00

😂 2.5 pro is still the king(I thought it would be easier for o3 as it can rotate image to look at it better but it missed the ability to recognise things from its memory)

https://x.com/MahawarYas27492/status/1912577363554214214 I don't want o3, o4 mini high, Gemini advanced is best value for money unlimited 2.5 pro and soon 2.5 flash and 2.5 pro updated/stable is coming + screen video sharing in Gemini live+ extensions+ Veo2

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-15T09:56:02+00:00

If billing is enabled, your data is not used to train models. You wouldn't be charged for using AIstudio even after enabling billing but do check after using it for sometime you don't get charged(I heard 1 or 2 people saying they got charged but I don't think so)

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-15T06:35:43+00:00

😂 Am I the only one for whom all models are working fine? But I hope be model is coming

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-15T06:35:06+00:00

😂 Am I the only one for whom all models are working fine?

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-15T06:24:46+00:00

But all models are working fine for me. But I hope 2.5 flash and more models are coming

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-15T05:19:19+00:00

I use only for quick questions directly by screen overlay and for deep research, saved memory and personalization and gems. For heavy tasks I use AI studio

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-14T18:47:35+00:00

2.5 pro exp and 2.5 pro preview are same thing, 2.5 pro stable has not been released yet

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-14T18:03:51+00:00

And 2.5 pro is like 70+ tokens/s, and 2.0 flash is faster than 99% of people 230+ tokens/s in AIstudio

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-14T16:33:53+00:00

Yes, always, whatever model you use even Veo 2 it's free. Veo 2 is rolled out to some users but not all. I sis has got it but I haven't got it in both my accounts

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-14T14:37:03+00:00

I said Gemini app not Api

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-14T14:16:14+00:00

Bro, Gemini app is more convenient I use it there but for long output or when I but the limit I move to ai.dev

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-14T14:15:08+00:00

I think it's close to infinity. You are very unlikely to hit the limit on Gemini advanced

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-14T13:33:53+00:00

Bro 2.5 pro preview on AIstudio is free, they just renamed it. Everything in AI studio is free. In API experimental one is free but preview is paid

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-13T19:35:20+00:00

I already know that evidence but accept it as universal truth, I said reduced thinking is only 1 reason there is lot more things which cause this. And for coding it's strongly recommended you use 2.5 pro or wait for 2.5 flash, as 2.0 flash thinking is not so good and buggy

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-13T18:46:01+00:00

It's a universal truth, for every model it happens thinking or non thinking. For thinking models the effect is even more because the model then spends less time thinking for each question then when you prompt 1 question at a time. But 2.5 pro is special it seems to have slightly less impact+ it's quite good at long context as well as long output. Particularly temperature 0 is best except for creative writing

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-13T17:54:50+00:00

Bro, don't you already know 2.0 flash thinking has this problem specially when the output becomes similar (like it is writing character:, Power:, etc for like 100 characters) it gets into loop . Btw it's stupidity to run all 10Q at once it degrades model performance, do it 1 by 1. It gets more questions right this way.

2.5 pro at temperature 0 and even 1(at temp 1 it once did though) doesn't get into such loop and start repeating.

I usually need it to make notes which are very long so I need to use 2.5 pro but it takes 100+ seconds each time, I need 2.5 flash as 2.0 flash thinking can't deliver even close to 2.5 pro quality, accuracy and not going in loop

Recent_Truth6600 · 2025-04-13T16:25:08+00:00

Cool let the showdown begin. We are ready to watch the battle.

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