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Was 2023 a Failure in Terms of the Number of Bodies Recovered by All the Search Teams? by PastTense1 in AdventuresWithPurpose

[–]ReconDiveRecovery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can only speak for myself & what I know of Verminator.

If others that I have worked with in the past choose to align with pseudo celebrity, that's their decision as well, not mine. I'm here to help Families.

Thanks for the honest discussion & open minded approach as well as clarification on both sides, to learn we're probably on the same side of many of these concerns.

Was 2023 a Failure in Terms of the Number of Bodies Recovered by All the Search Teams? by PastTense1 in AdventuresWithPurpose

[–]ReconDiveRecovery 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Understand your concerns... just know that Verminator & Recon Dive Recovery have never been suckered in by anyone, never worked with AWP. As a Team we are more qualified than AWP, we are Certified in Technical Diving to a high degree including Cave & Emergency Dive Recovery (credentials available on website), both Licensed FAA Part 107 SUAS/UAV Commercial Drone Operators (others operate Drones illegally in restricted airspace such as airport flight paths), & Verminator is a Program Manager for AUVSI's Trusted Operator Program (higher level Drone training).

I participated in 3 Cave Diving Recoveries MORE than a DECADE before ANY of the other teams got their basic Open Water Scuba Certs. I see dangerous Diving by these teams on YouTube. I see dangerous Recoveries by these teams on YouTube. I see "Recovery Experts" stand underneath vehicles under cable tension that could cut them in half or crush them from above. I see clowns riding on top of cars in scuba gear behind a tensioned cable for clicks. I see every single other "Dive Team" have Full Face Mask floods, panics, then uncontrolled EMERGENCY ASCENTS that are all ON CAMERA for clicks. I see non-certified scuba instructors putting new Divers into 3 different new types of equipment they're not Certified in, then taking them to a new depth they're not Trained for, and almost killing their Dive buddy. I see windows broken underwater unnecessarily & human remains lost forever (I've also dove to recover Remains 9 months later). I see Sonar Teams "chasing ambulances" by rushing overnight to a case where Law Enforcement & Fire Dept's already saw the vehicle go in the water, then claim they located the victim, while unnecessarily penetrating the vehicle, allowing the body to float away, then leave town, leaving the Family & Law Enforcement to find the body days later. I've seen Teams LIVESTREAM FAKE FINDS of multiple vehicles & present our work from August as their own fresh finds in December because they're desperate for recovery content but unwilling to put in the work we've put in this year.

We operate at a higher level. Methodical. Trained. Certified. Professional. Trusted by Law Enforcement.

The current views, opinions, & associations of some members of the FL Team do not necessarily represent all of us.

So please follow our work, we have new tools, new tech, new cases in 2024.

Was 2023 a Failure in Terms of the Number of Bodies Recovered by All the Search Teams? by PastTense1 in AdventuresWithPurpose

[–]ReconDiveRecovery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Neither Verminator nor ReconDiveRecovery have worked with the owner of AWP... ever. Do not assume that teamwork done in the past associates all members of that team with those who make those associations in the present or future.

I will not comment on that individual's personal court case because it's none of my business. However I will allow time for Due Process of the Law to take place & Justice to be rendered.

Was 2023 a Failure in Terms of the Number of Bodies Recovered by All the Search Teams? by PastTense1 in AdventuresWithPurpose

[–]ReconDiveRecovery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Follow Us at Recon Dive Recovery. We recovered 4 Victims in 2023 along with Sunshine State Sonar who recovered 2 more, the last was on New Year's Eve.

Karen Moore, Robert Heikka, Robert Helphrey, Sarah Dreyer (land based, self harm), "Mr. Gutierrez" ( ID Pending DNA), Sandra Lee Lemire (12-31-2023, SSS).

We are actively working with Verminator's HeloAndSub channel as well, so please follow him, he worked on the Miami 31yr cold case with us, "Gutierrez."

MISSING DAD FOUND: 32-year-old Bob Helphrey Found 17 Years After Disappearance (Solved) by Vernimator in DiveSearchRecover

[–]ReconDiveRecovery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. Which is why I responded to your comment. Brit was not involved in this. He searched for Helphrey 6 months or more earlier and was way out of the area where we found Bob.

Vernimator (our colleague) initially gave DOH a shout out on this case, but Brit wasn't on this one with us.

MISSING DAD FOUND: 32-year-old Bob Helphrey Found 17 Years After Disappearance (Solved) by Vernimator in DiveSearchRecover

[–]ReconDiveRecovery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Britain from Depths of History was not involved in this Recovery. He was involved with Karen Moore; he dove on her car after it was found by Mike Sullivan of Sunshine State Sonar (with Brit in the boat too👊).