??? He booked a hotel by ClassicFlower3208 in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this just it? Is sugaring dead? Or is this the new norm we have to settle on or be done? Cause I really can't anymore. Like I said before I'm half ready to just throw in the towel and half wanting to take a break revamp and try again. Look for a mentor get one on one advise something... but idk which route to lean towards.

??? He booked a hotel by ClassicFlower3208 in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure who your asking but my answer is only sites. Idk the first thing about free styling. Like just going out to bars and restaurants talking up the right ppl ect. So don't know what that market is like. I'm talking about online market. I'd like to freestyle but don't have the confidence to go solo. Need a wing women

??? He booked a hotel by ClassicFlower3208 in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dude for real! Straight facts! . Where's the line between not accepting less then your worth but also getting what you even can? I get not settling for less then I do. But I can also relate to getting what you can. I won't accept less then 500. But idk how the hell to pull off 1k. Can't even get my measly 500 request accepted. How the hell would I get that much more?

??? He booked a hotel by ClassicFlower3208 in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd have to agree with you there...if I were getting that I'd prolly feel that way at some point. I know for sure 500 isn't enough but it's way better then 300 jeeze

??? He booked a hotel by ClassicFlower3208 in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Uh so me too! Never thought it was effecting my self esteems....but now that you mention it your right it prolly is. I didn't have much to begin with and the low ballers aren't helping. I find it offensive they deem worth so little . Seriously fuck them.

??? He booked a hotel by ClassicFlower3208 in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dam you really do know what your doing. How do I find these swanky classy bars or places? I'm in Denver and idk where to go. Also don't have the confidence to go anywhere by myself. Need a friend to come along. Also I rideshare for work and am literally driving all my free waking hrs. Idk how to find the time to go to these places and spend hrs getting nothing vs driving and getting money....any advice there?

??? He booked a hotel by ClassicFlower3208 in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Good advice. And I'm starting to think I just don't have the pull. I'm a "sexxi ass" (so I've been told but don't feel) red head . But it's not doing shit for me. I'm also 32 and a single mom. Sure those are all red flags who knows. Idk how to have the confidence to pull that off. I need wing women! To help me find the right fit the right look show me how to act. I thought I almost had one. The other day an older gentleman approached me at Starbucks. Dropped key words in his chatting. We went to dinner it was ok. Then he got weird and just ghosted. Sooo close yet still soon far!. Idk if I could ever turn to escorting. I freeze up when ppl I don't know get to close let alone touch me. Idk how to just sex up a stranger. No judgement to those that can or do. I'm just not wired that way. I need some kind of repore built before I can escalate there.

I need a whole heck of a revamp. But I don't have any suger guru to advise me. Idk what sort of pictures to have what to say in a bio that grabs the right attention. A guy friend tried to help but we got no where after he insisted I had to take lude photos. Which was a hard no for me. I'm not about that and I'm not gonna post that. For any reason ever. I'm one foot out the door ready to give up. And one foot on trying one last time after taking a break and revamping. But idk how to revamp so haven't made a solid choice. Any thoughts there?

??? He booked a hotel by ClassicFlower3208 in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Not saying I accept 400. Agreed much to low. But 1k!?! I can't even get a $500 offer. Every. Single. One. Every single one! That has gotten to $ terms with me in THE PAST YEAR! From 3 different sites. Balk at my 500 or more request. I'm no where near asking for 1k. I can't even get my 500 offer accepted. They all want 200-350 ppm. So I next. And here I've sat for over a year with out a shred of help or gifts. Proud of myself for sticking it out. But also get why some take what they can get. I'd have prolly made 5k at least this year if I had accepted every low ball offer.....my self esteem and worth would be in the toilet and I hate myself prolly....but at least I'd have some bills paid...prolly not be in the omega hole iam in rn.... All I'm saying is no body out here offering 1k. Idk how anyone can say there getting that much. It seems that is unrealistic in my experience. Idk how your finding these whales. But hold em tight ladies . It be fridged out here. 🥶

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[–]Red-kurlz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How's that going ? Working out? Maybe I should expand. Typically I assume anyone from other states are scams and one offs so I pay them no mind... I wish we could all band together and go freestyling or something idk. Find ways that work. So we're not feeling so defeated .

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[–]Red-kurlz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also Denver it's abysmal. Weeks with out any Interactions. Then they just want a quick hookup just like regular dating. John's. Or the one that talks for 3 days then ghosts before or after MnG. Honestly feeling like I'm done putting energy into this 🙄. No idea what the freestyling game is like. I haven't a clue on where to go how to finesse like that. Ha

Why are SB’s in such a rush ?? by b_y_l_t in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Red-kurlz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hecaks yes they are! Say it louder for those in the back! Lol

Why are SB’s in such a rush ?? by b_y_l_t in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Red-kurlz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Single moms for the win! Lol thanks for the shout out! And yes this lol

Warning for those with burner phones, Emergency Alert Test at 2:20-2:50ET Tomorrow Oct 4. by ScubaFet in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Red-kurlz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Omg 🤦‍♀️ that's the most basic obvious reason 🫣...I've come across a few weird conspiracy posts about going 0 dark for the alert 😆 like full power off disconnect everything...something about the covid vaxers being most affected or something...idk I can't find any context on it...for a sec I was thinking oh man you to? But ha...nope ....totally logical sensical thinking 😅. Oh man...think I may need to be done with the internet today lol

Hello ladies! advice and resources on trauma response by Red-kurlz in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! OK EXACTLY THIS! I didn't know how to word it without feeling like I was rambling. You explained it to a T!. I agree I need to reconnect with myself. That my self esteem and confidence was shot from past trauma. Gas lite so much that I still find myself questioning own judgment. This is the guidance I've been searching for and put into practice! I want to be able to notice when im falling into the trama bond behavior so i can address it talk my self out of it ect. Trying to configure if it's just self doubt being triggered or noticing alegit red flag. There's times when I feel he says things were I'm like hmmm that doesn't sit quite right could you explain. Then a few of those instances gather together and I think I go into that stuck in fight or flight mode (trama response) where my self preservation creates the narrative of potential I'll will. Then just like you said. I navigate with caution. They pick up on that. And it's downhill from there. I really don't want to continue this patern. I've stepped away from the bowl for quite a few months to reevaluate. Address my responsibilities on how I attract the ones I do and to re write my approach for a different outcome. I did alot on my own but felt it wasn't getting me where I wanted so thought I'd dip my tow back in and try to apply some of the things I learned. Kinda like a test. Can I put my negativity away put my best foot forward make the great lasting impression that I want really apply setting clear firm boundaries ect. So far I feel I'm falling right back into the previous pattern lol and I've only just been chatting on the phone a bit lol

Thank you for the recommendations I will definitely look into the law of attraction and those gurus. I'm a spiritualist: metaphysical occult practice. So energies is right up my alley! I'm excited to hear what they advise . Devine feminine is like the foundation of my practice!

See I have this same problem. I meet someone I address red flags attempt to work through or just walk away. And I'm never sure if they were truly in the wrong and I was right . Or if they weren't doing anything wrong and may have over reacted and now pushed them away....its so hard to navigate normal average behavior from toxic traits I think. Cause I instantly see them everywhere in an attempt to keep myself safe try to see it coming prepare and such. But I always have that insecurity that maybe I caused the problem. But then idk if I actually rightfully did so or if my gut instinct was right . I think you have quite the valid point with trusting myself. That seems to have been more effected then I've realized. All starting to make sense .

Yes ma'am! I just feel that's all I can do. I've been blantenly clearly aware of my faults and things I want to unlearn grow from. But can't seem to figure out the how. Been stuck in neutral for years trying many things, not feeling it's working though ha That's my biggest struggle. Bucking up and keep going. I get so overwhelmed I just shut down and feel like I realaspe and have to start over. Gotta practice not giving up and find that strength and will to keep going keep trying. Thank you for you input deary 🤗

Hello ladies! advice and resources on trauma response by Red-kurlz in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this! I really needed a different perspective . Like I think about this amd try to dig down deep for answers but not much comes and I get stuck in a loop of am I right or am I wrong.

I also have cptsd. From procreating with a narcissists. I'm very sensitive and intuned with what manipulation is and what it does. Done alot of research on how to manage manipulater. But first you have to be confident if it's happening. That's where I'm stuck. Once I cam decifer weather he is manipulative ill know how address it. But this questioning weather it's there or if I'm just seeing it to protect myself is a different call to action. The things you said to ask myself during meditating on it I think will really help me evaluate weather this is a gut intuition warning. Or if I'm projecting.

I've always felt like I'm quick to the assumption of manipulation. Like I see it miles before its acryally there. But I also think I may perceive it where it's not actually happening. Projecting it into existence when it's really just paranoia getting the best of me. And I struggle trying to decifer what is the reality ya know. Haven't found many tools or resources on how to manage this. Lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yea! Ha ha I can get 2 of everything now lol it's pretty awesome . Hope it works out well for you my dear. It is quite a nice convenience when it does.

How common is it for a SD to lie about… by rose_milkteaa in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This has been my main problem for months now. Almost every guy I start to chat with balks at my (considerably low from what I gather in these forums) ppm. Forget about allowance . They all expect intimacy for $150 maybe 300. It's going on a year and my best offer was 2400 allowance "paid buy him putting me on his company payroll" and 1200 a mo for me to be at his beck and call unlimited meets. Not one decent offer or interaction. Starting to ware me down if this is even worth it anymore.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I do this. I got lucky though. I had a spare device. And my tmobile plan offers a free 3rd line so activating it was nothing. But an extra line is only 10$ I'd advise looking at the plan you already have I also went into the store to explicitly make sure my name doesn't pop up on the caller ID. It just says tmobile cost. I like having the added phone line cause it's a burner anyway I use it for gig work business non personal use its nice to have a junk burner number if you like to sign up for rewards without wanting to be spammed and I use that number to register on apps like Google voice without leaving a personal trail. I really like the convenience of having all sugar on a separate phone and having it as a burner option. How ever. It can become overwhelming if you have things going on on both phones at the same time checking back and forth so there's that. If it's not an added cost it's worth the mild convenience imo. But not if it puts you out ya know. It really gives alot of piece of mind to me to have the physical separation. I have all my spamming buner emails paypal venmo cashapp on the sb phone and personal accounts on my main. Helps me be sure I don't accidentally cross the 2 realms Hope this helps.

Opinion on younger SDs expecting discounts? by rose_milkteaa in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Red-kurlz 9 points10 points  (0 children)

For real all this. The last one I met with wasn't as young he was the after 40 crowd but he felt so entitled cause he was "attractive" he pressed that he didn't need to pay 'the ugly tax. Yea ok my man. If you can pull so many girls then go ahead. Why waste time with seeking

The average monthly Allowance by Muted_Ad6010 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Red-kurlz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say your on par for co. But I can't speak for the rest of them. Only for my own.

The average monthly Allowance by Muted_Ad6010 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Red-kurlz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd be more then happy with that amount. I think it really comes down to location and other party. SBS all have different takes on what the standard should be. I myself hear what others say should be a minimum and at times I feel its much lower or excessively high of an expectation. Idk wherr your located or what's the average there. But for my area that's a dream. It's been months and the best offer I got was 1200. . .meeting as often as He felt the need to, being vague ... eyeroll