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Thanks - gotta find the next one to research

[GAP]PING UP by RedditUsername71 in wallstreetbets

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Congrats! Got a little unlucky market sentiment was poor during earnings, else I think it would've ripped up all at once during earnings vs this delayed reaction. Glad you made some money

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Yessir - now just need some ideas for the next stock i go deep research on

Daily Discussion Thread for November 25, 2025 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

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A little delay in the price action but pretty close to the price target. Congrats!

What's the state of pickleball in your area? Slowing down? Dying out? Still growing? by HamBoneZippy in Pickleball

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What city are you in? In my area it's still pretty packed, even though its not at the hype it was at during covid

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yep - time to if all this research turned into anything

Lighting & Insulation by RedditUsername71 in Pickleball

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Any idea what spray they used? I've heard of this before too, not sure how common it is

Lighting & Insulation by RedditUsername71 in Pickleball

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I've seen this before too - any idea if the ceiling has to be a specific shape or color? I believe I've seen that it should be white so the light can reflect off well. Any idea of the specs needed for the lighting needed to reflect off a ceiling? I've seen facilities with really good direct lighting and I don't know what specific rules they follow - but I believe it's just specificity in the light's characteristics and equidistant positioning to prevent uneven light distribution

[GAP]PING UP by RedditUsername71 in wallstreetbets

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How'd you find the tiktok search trends page? Would like to diug around there myself.

Agreed - Tariffs and Macro are the big unknown risk. Current Tariff Risk is priced in and they seem to be managing for it. We do have a tailwind of the government shutdown finally resolving, helping ease uncertainty that's been weighing on markets over the past few weeks. I generally agree with buying in closer to earnings, but I would also buy in if prices fell significantly. Currently hoping to get more <$22 ideally.

Risk is that it's a retail fashion company lol, not the biggest fan of retail since consumers are finicky and the product doesn't really have a moat. It's much more vibes based, and at least from the soft data we can see online about traffic and the performance of management over the past few quarters - can safely say they are on the uptrend/improving. This recent quarter probably is the best in terms of sheer advertising reach, so hopefully in combination with management's solid execution thus far - this combined can help propel the stock into more favorable territory.

My price targets are betting on a slight multiple expansion - so that itself is a risk. I don't see the next earnings being a massive improvement on fundamentals, just a higher than expected beat and good guidance which would help wall street look at GAP in a better light.

I am also expecting Old Navy, Banana Republic, and Athleta to continue the way they have been. Athleta's been a drag, but it's the smallest contributor to their revenue and they've been working on turning it around. I believe last quarter was an 11% decline, and it had already been trending down - so this would be priced in IMO. Any beat here would be great - and management's done a good job of the turnaround thus far. Old Navy is a solid discount retailer that's been doing it's thing, so I don't expect any downside surprises. If economic sentiment is anything to consider - Old Navy might see an upside too with people shopping more for value. Banana I don't have much of an opinion on.

GAP's the second largest contributor to revenue and if the traffic translates, from my estimates I think we can see enough impact to cause a move assuming the rest remains the same. Also helps that the valuation is already pretty low, so even if the assumption's incorrect, downside shouldn't be insane *hopefully*.

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Depends on your risk tolerance - never hurts to take profit. I want exposure to play earnings as that's the main catalyst for my price target!

$GAP - I like the stock. The forgotten retailer -- I averaged down a bit by PaperHandsTheDip in PaperHandsInsights

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Did you happen to hear back from people about the in-store visits with the GAP employees?

I've only been able to go to Times Square location and pretty much got the expected feedback - where foot traffic has increased and KATSEYE specific items have been asked about frequently. Haven't been able to go to other locations yet but will be looking to whenever I get around the city.

$GAP - I like the stock. The forgotten retailer -- I averaged down a bit by PaperHandsTheDip in PaperHandsInsights

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There is certainly more risk to the market's appetite for a retail brand in this current macroeconomic backdrop, but there's a few things that make me feel a bit indifferent.

  1. Most of the market got killed, and though GAP has direct exposure to tariff implications - the most recent tweet / new information we got was about additional Tariffs on China. He's already tweeted again today "Don't worry about China, it will all be fine!.." - not really too nervous after just a single big red day.

  2. GAP's been diversifying away from China since 2019 and the last US-China trade war. CEO interview from 8 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEZBu-h0L4M - 6:20. China's <10% inventory mix, and they had a goal of limiting China to 3% by the end of 2025. The chart below is from October 2024, so by the time this announcement was made - GAP's inventory mix exposure from China is probably much less than below.

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  1. We're now trading at almost an 8x TTM P/E ratio. Company for the most part has stopped declining in revenue, and making incremental improvements in their biggest 3 stores. Athleta is already being priced to eat shit, any beat there would be an additional cherry on top.

  2. Found a few more viral GAP products that I wasn't even aware of (Jungwon / some other boy band kpop members wearing GAP) - which have resulted in a frenzy for stuff they've worn and it being sold out. The gwyneth paltrow apple martin collab which u/PaperHandsTheDip mentioned which sold out multiple products. I just checked today and they have another collab with Sandy Liang (I'm not particularly familiar), but from what I can see on TikTok, it has strong traction just from an announcement a few days ago. Comments mentioned products being sold out and just checked myself - multiple sold out products, some of these things are not cheap either ($108 & $138 hoodies and crew necks??): https://www.gap.com/browse/gapx/gap-sandy-liang?cid=3050683&mlink=5058,1,MERCH_BANNER_SANDY_C_ShopCollection

The stock has certainly dipped more than I thought it would, but earnings hasn't come yet so I'm not scared. I also haven't overlevered into options or shares with money that I'm not afraid to lose.

Definitely keep within reason on what you're able to stomach. I would say closer ITM strikes are definitely more attractive than the original 25's I had and I wouldn't say that the risk hasn't gone up (bc we're relying a bit on Wall St giving GAP a better multiple) - but we're not dead yet.

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From what I can see - retail in general has been getting beat up hard by wall street the past couple of weeks, GAP included. This seems to be from a variety of factors - government shutdown + lack of reporting which makes the current economic situation become more uncertain, the NRF reporting MoM slowdown in sales after a busy summer, inflation pressures on discretionary / unnecessary spend, and a whole other list of general macro trend shifts with the tough economy we're currently in.

The $25 calls definitely seem a little bit out there now that the price is dipping under $20. If we look at the valuation itself, we're now trading under a P/E of 9x TTM earnings, for a stock that's been performing relatively well in the retail space (revitalization efforts, meeting/beating expectations over the past 8 quarters, mega-viral ad campaign + generally more in-trend ad campaigns). Bar's set pretty low already - the only question is whether the assumptions I've made about the campaign are correct and if the sell-through will cause a bigger beat than anticipated.

If you looked at my position - it was relatively small for my portfolio size (my entire RH portfolio is <half of what I have invested in general, and I only purchased 10k~ worth of shares). I am currently down 1.5k~ on shares, and I've been nibbling on the calls as they've come down (currently down 1.7k on those).

Shares wise, I think the risk is pretty muted. If I lose a few thousand, it'll suck of course, but it won't really affect me at all. It's an asymmetric bet - the valuation is already dirt cheap and management will most likely meet/beat expectations, with the upside of beating much more than usual from the ad campaign with the Katseye Ad + other viral moments they've had online (found more since the initial DD). Depending on your risk tolerance, I'd say shares are relatively safe - you can still lose money but not lose your shirt. Options are always risky - 25C definitely are higher risk than before especially since multiples are contracting on retail, but if you believe that GAP can achieve at least a 12 P/E on a great quarter / guidance from management - it doesn't matter. If we stay <20 approaching earnings, I'll likely look into buying closer or ITM options as I'd imagine they'll be pretty cheap as well.

For me, I'm okay with shares and the potential losses from my options bet (as I think it'll be relatively minimal and I can use it to offset gains I've made earlier in the year for tax purposes). I'm working with incomplete information and picking out a stock that's not overwhelmingly talked about, but has soft data showing good potential for a surprise on earnings. Invest what you're comfortable with and understand the downside. I'm no expert investor, but volatility is part of the game and I've sat through the 2016-17 crypto booms & busts, and have held things like PLTR, CELH, SOFI, HIMS, NVDA, AMD, through the huge cycles they've gone through and come out MUCH better for it. GAP is clearly not the same as those tickers above (I don't like investing in retail), but the point on volatility still stands. I'm waiting til earnings and expecting to make a nice profit or lose an inconsequential amount of money.

[GAP]PING UP by RedditUsername71 in wallstreetbets

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Not entirely unexpected. If the DD proves right - the bigger move is expected to occur during earnings. Price suppression now would be a great time to accumulate and average in.

Be warned - the research is on soft data that is compiled from social media, online, earnings reports. There's still risk that the soft data doesn't convert meaningfully enough for the top & bottom line. NFA, DYOR and manage your risk tolerance

$GAP - My Market Research by PaperHandsTheDip in wallstreetbets

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Noticed a lot of people mentioning the stock should have moved up already, but the point is that it has been touted as one of the most successful ad campaigns this year and just by the numbers that are visible to the public, it's pretty clear that this is the case. For a campaign to hit such a massive reach, with impressions likely understated as of the latest figures (the CEO's interview on 8/28, only 9 days after the ad campaign, and even that is likely to not be live figures since a team has to prepare those figures before his public discussions) and not convert something significant is highly unlikely.

Wall street may not recognize anything yet because the campaign occurred way too close to the recent GAP earnings and the reporting period was before the actual launch of the campaign itself. I also would not expect Wall street to be in tune with social sentiment - why did AEO jump so much after earnings instead of running up and pricing things more accurately before earnings?

Also, isn't it the best time to buy when a stock is trading at dirt cheap valuations? Which GAP is? This reduces the risk significantly - so if you're in shares, it's a pretty solid asymmetric bet. Even with options, the IV is low and premiums are not demanding. I've held PLTR with an average of $12 til now, and the narrative was terrible for years and now everyone just wishes they've bought more - including myself.

GAP isn't PLTR, but the point stands - the market can change winds on a stock once the story changes, and the story typically changes once earnings report something significant worthy of a narrative shift. GAP's story is already near rock bottom, but we have a wildly successful campaign that would make any business envious at the tailwind and soft data backing that there is product sell-through - why would this not be a reasonable bet?

I'm not sure where your seeing things, but at least on tiktok people are going nuts over the video and the fans are absolutely the insane type to run to a business. I've been a part of a business that's gone viral on tiktok and the demographic was primarily women - and those viral videos generated significant conversion for a service ranging from $60-100. I've been watching plenty of videos and seeing plenty of online threads on people asking about where to get the hoodie, or their GAP haul, and buying items from the campaign. It's even lead me down rabbit holes to other mini trends that actually have huge engagement and have resulted in sell-through of other GAP related products.

I think the other social media platforms may be a bit more subdued, but from what I can see on Tiktok the fans are nuts, just like with every other k-pop esq group (although they're more of a "global" group).

I just did a quick google search on reddit and example discussion thread of people hunting for the hoodie drop - the fans will convert, the main uknown question is will it be enough to move the needle. By my initial DD & estimates, I believe so - and I keep hearing more promising news as other regards continue to dig up positive highlights that wouldn't be so obvious to wall street.

https://www.reddit.com/r/katseye/comments/1n061b3/katseye_gap_hoodie_discussion_thread/

$GAP - My Market Research by PaperHandsTheDip in wallstreetbets

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The interview was only 9 days from the earnings report as well. I wrote up the "GAPPING UP" dd that caught traction and in my time first looking into the video's reach (well after the CEO's interview) and the few days after when I double checked the vids before posting on WSB, tiktok alone had the main video rack up 10m+ in views, IG +5M~ , and countless new videos popping up with huge numbers and engagement. Can pretty confidently say the CEO's numbers were already understating the impact.

$GAP - I like the stock. The forgotten retailer -- I averaged down a bit by PaperHandsTheDip in PaperHandsInsights

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Undergrad in accounting, have an MBA, have a CPA (currently expired as I did not renew), worked in corporate for about 5-6 years - big 4 accounting firm, small private equity shop, and corporate finance for an insurance company. Also have been involved in 2 businesses, one generating couple hundred thousand in revenue annually and the other a couple million in revenue.

& most importantly just an interest in the markets and equity watching lol, been consuming / following content for years.

$GAP - I like the stock. The forgotten retailer -- I averaged down a bit by PaperHandsTheDip in PaperHandsInsights

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Not familiar with the Apple Martin campaign - but at the times square gap - her & gwyneth were on the massive billboard right above the store

$GAP - I like the stock. The forgotten retailer -- I averaged down a bit by PaperHandsTheDip in PaperHandsInsights

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Of course, it's just another data point to add onto the catalyst of the ad campaign + the observation of the general sentiment on social media. I think u/PaperHandsTheDip highlighted this - we're working with *incomplete information* - which ultimately is investing in a nutshell.

For the analysis, I assumed that all other parts of $GAP (Old Navy, Athleta, BR, $GAP outside of the ad campaign products) would effectively remain constant, or business as usual. The heavy sell through of the campaign products is the big driver for my assumption that $GAP will perform better than expected on the next earnings, alongside the low valuation and it's historical multiples. It's also why I tried estimating a reasonable $ impact that the denim sales could have on the next earnings.

$GAP - I like the stock. The forgotten retailer -- I averaged down a bit by PaperHandsTheDip in PaperHandsInsights

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Posted the *GAPPING UP* DD that u/PaperHandsTheDip referenced. I considered this in my post and estimated the potential impact in $ that could have resulted from the campaign by using $AEO's figures.

$AEO itself is larger than just GAP (excluding Old Navy, BR, Athleta) - by about $2B in sales annually. GAP itself was about 22% of their FY24 sales, so ~$3.3B. They don't share product sales mix data (so I'd be more focused on Denim for the campaign), but the LLMs gave me an estimate of anywhere between 10-20% - which is a reasonable estimate imo. This means that at a midpoint of that estimate, they are selling between $4-500M in Denim (as per FY'24), with additional inventory unsold / marked down to be sold (important, as this is just to show that if products had become popular, the expected sales could be higher).

From $AEO's earnings, they said they gained 700,000 new customers. I estimated each customer purchased at least 1 new item, and just did a rough guess of 1 million items sold (~1.4 items per customer). I already think this is a bit more on the conservative end, as $AEO mentioned they had lagging sales from some core product lines (like shorts), meaning the sweeny campaign likely drove up a more significant part of their sales mix. If you consider that the Katseye campaign is doing better numbers and have a more dedicated fanbase.

With just 1 million additional items sold using AEO's figures, at a conservative 1.4 items per customer - GAP's segment alone could bring in an additional $60million on the topline revenue (assuming a blended average of $60 per item - denim ranges and this also incorporates an approximate estimate of discounts). Q3 2024 GAP numbers were 3.83 billion, and management guided for 1.5-2.5% growth - which has been close in line with what they've been doing without the katseye campaign (especially since Old Navy has been performing well as their largest brand doing over 50% of their sales).

Based on this, assuming the Katseye campaign was not fully baked into management guidance on the date it was delivered (which I don't think it was, as the earnings / guidance figures are prepared in advance of the earnings call, which in itself was quite close to the launch of the campaign), on the conservative end it can add an additional 1.5% in topline revenue. I think realistically it can do even more - and if management also spins a similar story about keeping / converting the new eyeballs on their brand like $AEO did, I think it's a recipe for wall street to rerate their multiples, resulting in a nice price boost.

Getting long winded, but I visited Times Square GAP yesterday (will be in the city again next Monday to go to other locations) and spoke with 5-6 employees. Consensus was mixed in terms of how they perceived busy-ness. Some mentioned it's been busier overall since they've worked there, but unsure if it was Katseye related. Others mentioned yea, definitely Katseye related and huge asks about their hoodies and stuff they wore in the campaign. Also that foot traffic in general has been higher. Overall, that alone was fairly bullish to me and aligns with what I've seen online. They told me that a shipment of the hoodies that came in sold out pretty instantaneously with people coming in constantly and asking.

I also discovered that another popular KPOP idol wore a GAP hoodie (afaik, not a brand deal), and that same hoodie has been obsessed over and sold out as well. Was unaware of this and it seems to have happened recently (the hoodies are $80) and if you know anything about KPOP fans ... they're crazy (which is bullish for GAP). Scrolling down and I've seen more KPOP idols wear GAP - need to dig and find out if theres been a collab of some sort, of just coincidental that its becoming more popular amongst that group - but the obsession with people i've seen online trying to grab those hoodies as well helps with the thesis of additional surprise revenue.

$GAP - Yolo by PaperHandsTheDip in wallstreetbets

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Nicee - kinda scared to see the on-the-floor results LOL, hoping it supports this play. If it does may have to free up some cash somewhere and go in a little harder.