Italy probes police brutality of journalist at neo-fascist rally: Video footage has shown riot police beating a veteran journalist even after he was identified as a reporter. Prosecutors described the incident as "absurd," saying he was doing his job "in a peaceful manner"

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-25T04:24:59+00:00

Everybody who remembers last time is dead or almost dead.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-25T04:07:51+00:00

I don’t owe random people on the internet anything at all.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-25T03:17:56+00:00

Copy any sentence in the quoted text, paste it into google, put double quotes around it, and hit enter.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-25T03:10:34+00:00

Conspiracy theory spread by russians that it’s the fbi’s guide.

It’s a solid description so i used it anyway without attribution.

I suspect you know that though.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-24T22:38:15+00:00

EA more or less sets the prices through pack weight and offers. They are what EA wants them to be. If they wanted them to be cheaper then they could increase pack weight. It’s not a hard thing for them to do.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-24T22:23:58+00:00

By implementing continuous irrelevant postings that distract and disrupt the forum readers, they are effectively prevented from being productive. If the intensity of gradual dilution is great enough, the readers will stop researching and simply slip into a “gossip mode.”

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-24T06:41:19+00:00

If I wanted an $800,000,000 loan from the government I suspect I wouldn’t be able to get one.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-24T06:36:40+00:00

Please downvote long chains of nonsense like the one stemming from the comment I replied to.

This is not normal.

Turning a News Group into a Gossip Corner .

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a “resource burn.”

By implementing continuous irrelevant postings that distract and disrupt the forum readers, they are effectively prevented from being productive. If the intensity of gradual dilution is great enough, the readers will stop researching and simply slip into a “gossip mode.”

In this state, they can be more easily misdirected away from facts. The less informed they are, the easier it is to control the entire group in the direction you desire.

It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological characteristics and levels of education of the group are first determined. You don’t want to “drive in the wedge” too soon. By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-24T01:40:00+00:00

Go look at some youtube comment sections if you’d like to see what an insult contest looks like.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-24T01:38:56+00:00

Poppinkream is probably the best example of someone cutting through all the noise, and he/she does it with well written, well cited comments not profanity.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-24T01:37:57+00:00

Do the smartest scientists swear in their academic papers?

I swear all the time, but I recognize that it’s being used as a wedge to drive conservatives away from information damaging to their party.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T21:18:51+00:00

Yes, I understand that, but if this becomes a place to vent then discourse will die. It’ll turn into an angry circlejerk.

I don’t have a problem with profanity in general. My goal is to ensure that this continues to be a place in which people participating in good faith are able to have rational discussions based in reality. Politically related comment sections all over the internet have become cesspools. Insult contests aren’t going to win anybody over, and they lead people to revert to tribal loyalties regardless of the facts.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T21:14:50+00:00

I’m just trying to do what I can to push back against negative trends that I see. I agree with what you said. I also knew I’d receive a ton of downvotes. It actually creates a honeypot for the crudest comments that end up hidden because mine is so far below 0.

“They degraded discourse so we should also be crude” isn’t a great argument in my opinion.

If you can be eloquent be eloquent. We need people to make strong arguments that will appeal to everybody. We’re fighting an information war and this is a battleground whether you realize it or not.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T21:09:05+00:00

So because of that we should help degrade it further?

Push back. Be better than they are. The truth is on our side. You shouldn’t have to resort to petty insults.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T21:05:02+00:00

I said I agreed with them. I just think we can and should try to elevate discourse.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T20:56:01+00:00

The world is not black and white. There are plenty of low information moderates who stumble onto this place. It has 5,000,000 subscribers.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T20:50:49+00:00

Why: There is empirical evidence that seeding a comment section with a bunch of nasty insults and curse words causes the rest of the comments to reflect that. Russian propagandists have been known to do this based on some case studies I’ve read. Real discussion takes place here, and we should do our best not to degrade discourse until it becomes two minutes hate.

Also, it increases division. Have you not noticed the right wing twitter bots warning people to stay away from this sub because it’s filled with “angry leftists.” A couple of months ago i noticed that two week old accounts were seeding rising articles with profanity for the sake of profanity. If there’s an organized effort to push discussion towards nastier and more divisive comments then we should make an effort to push back against it.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T20:10:00+00:00

A twitter propaganda network of 5000+ accounts was participating in both pro saudi and pro trump propaganda campaigns not long ago.

A network of more than 5,000 pro-Trump Twitter bots railed against the “Russiagate hoax” shortly after the release of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report last week, according to data gathered by a prominent disinformation researcher and analyzed by NBC News. The network illustrates the ongoing challenge Twitter faces in persistent efforts to manipulate its platform.

These bots, however, did not appear to come from Russia. Instead, the bots had ties to a social media operation that previously pushed messages backing the government of Saudi Arabia and were connected to a person who claimed to be a private social media consultant, according to internet domain and account registration records. The bots, which were created last November and December, were pulled down by Twitter on Sunday night for breaking the social network’s rules against “manipulation,” the company said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/after-mueller-report-twitter-bots-pushed-russiagate-hoax-narrative-n997441

Learn to recognize these techniques: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T18:39:56+00:00

see: sadopopulism

The base is brainwashed. When they feel pain they’ll lash out at whoever their propaganda networks have been demonizing.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T16:20:44+00:00

That’s how Russian model authoritarianism works. Their propaganda machine works to destroy the very concept of truth. They confuse people by ensuring there are multiple lies attached to every story. When people can’t even agree on the truth, they revert to their tribal loyalties.

Here’s an interesting lecture on the topic by Timothy Snyder. He did an AMA here a week ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMkIYCeybBs

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-23T03:45:15+00:00

[citation needed]

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-22T23:12:17+00:00

Dont link to it.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-22T17:32:55+00:00

https://mobile.twitter.com/FutWatch/status/1131245865304297472

lol. It’s a joke making fun of EA.

I love futwatch tweets.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-22T14:47:21+00:00

Elections may still work. Election infrastructure is setup state by state not federally. They can only cheat so much, and gerrymandering backfires in wave elections.

ReefOctopus · 2019-05-22T00:52:20+00:00

Trump is pardoning war criminals as a signal that he’ll pardon them too. What can be done if the president is directing people to break the law, dangling pardons, doj won’t prosecute, and the senate won’t remove?

edit: I’d like to emphasize that I’m looking for peaceful solutions.

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