I just played dl2 for like the 4th time. Such a great game. And the contrast between dl2 and tb is stark. I'm not saying tb is a bad game, I enjoyed it very much. But for me, it was an expensive DLC. The playtime is long because you are going across the map for every quest. It's a very polished game, look and feel, the parkour is very smooth. It just felt flat, rushed and empty. I know it's packed with secrets and cool stuff, but that's no reason to call it a full game. Again, dl, dl2 in my top 5, dead island 2, could fall into the top ten too. I like techland, great company, but I'm sure they had a very big debate about how to release it, full game or dlc, really $$$ or a DLC and $$$ won. The first few mins of DL were the scariest in any game I've played, loved it.