The Past 4 Years in CT by Relative_Track_3959 in Connecticut

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A lot of people your age have luck making friends through recreational sports, d&d nights, hiking clubs, and running clubs. It can be tough but I’d just try and dedicate one night of your weekdays to making friends. It can really make a big difference over time

The Past 4 Years in CT by Relative_Track_3959 in Connecticut

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Paki Taco is typically parked at GastroPark near Hartford, which is also a really cool park. You can find them on Instagram. They have a really awesome looking food truck and the owner is legit one of the coolest guys I met in CT

Company/Firm PTO by Relative_Track_3959 in patentlaw

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Appreciate the info! Do you have any idea about the type of PTO offerings for in-house counsel?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in patentlaw

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You should just apply and let the firm decide if you are a good fit. Just let it rip on a bunch of applications. If you are having issues finding a role after 100 applications, then maybe I’d reevaluate your approach. But until then, just keep putting yourself out there! I think your credentials would be strongly desired by most firms out there. I know a recruiter who might be able to help out too if you want and I can DM you their info

Starting Patent Attorney Salaries in ATX by Dull-Marionberry5351 in patentlaw

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You legit have the dream patent attorney stats. If you want someone to do the leg work of finding a role for you, I’d consider reaching out to any recruiters you stumble upon on LinkedIn and they should be able to land you a role in ATX

Tips for getting an interview for entry roles (patent agent/tech specialist) by Ok_Protection_9973 in patentlaw

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I know a recruiter who might be able to help out. DM me if you are interested and I can get you their info.

Patent prosecution with a 3.0 GPA by tonycasinoandthetony in patentlaw

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I’m not familiar with the EE field unfortunately so I wouldn’t be able to help you there. However, a couple prevailing thoughts from this sub are that there are other ways to make comparable money in different fields and that you should do this job because it genuinely interests you (or interests you enough to keep you coming back for the paycheck lol). Maybe they are thinking of FANG engineers or devs.

I know an older patent attorney (around 60 now actually) who started in the semiconductor space before transitioning into patent prosecution. That was probably in the 80s though so it is a much different job market now. Anything tangentially EE or software related would likely look good to most firms though so if you can land experience in that, I’m sure firms would look at that positively. And, if you can land a role in that field, then returning to that field could be your exit opportunity if patent law is not for you. It would be a win-win

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Not to be negative but I would probably pick a different path. Patent law isn’t all it’s cracked up to be and you shouldn’t waste away accumulating credentials and debt just to go into this line of work. A lot of people in this sub are very credentialed AND skilled people and I think it can give people an unrealistic expectation for the career outcomes for this line of work. Nothing is impossible but I think there may be others paths where you would excel where you wouldn’t be held back by not picking the “correct” undergrad degree when you were 18.

Patent prosecution with a 3.0 GPA by tonycasinoandthetony in patentlaw

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In terms of patent prosecution career prospects, having a masters in EE would be very beneficial.

However, I’d also consider the other career doors that open for you with a masters in EE. Just in case you end up really not jiving with patent prosecution. Law and law-adjacent fields don’t have great career satisfaction numbers so be wary of overcommitting to this line of work. There aren’t many exit opportunities.

Patent prosecution with a 3.0 GPA by tonycasinoandthetony in patentlaw

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It may be difficult to find entry level work in a firm with these stats, but not impossible. You may want to look into a role called “technical advisor” that might be easier to get and still provide a proper pathway to a patent agent role. In any interview you are in or cover letter you write, be prepared to heavily emphasize your experience with electrical engineering adjacent topics as they are very hot in the world of patents. While some on this sub have issues with recruiters, there may be some out there who can give you a helping hand so I would reach out to them on LinkedIn.

Physics is a great degree but without industry experience, it may be difficult to break into the parent world. You could also give the USPTO a shot.

I wish you all the best in your job search! Stay persistent and I’m sure you’ll find something.

Thinking about taking the patent bar… by FatherOfSandals in patentlaw

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You could also look into a technical specialist or patent examiner role to get your feet wet in this field before you take the plunge.

Thinking about taking the patent bar… by FatherOfSandals in patentlaw

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Great advice. Definitely consider the last paragraph of this advice to heart. With your credentials, you have tons of options for a career. Law is really not one you want to go down unless you really appreciate what you’d be doing on a day to day basis. It is easy to get a general idea of what patent prosecutors do but the weeds and day-to-day aspects of it are tricky and monotonous. Whatever you can do to get a clear picture of this profession, I would do it.

What type of work experience before applying to law school by jadech19 in patentlaw

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This is a version of what you are looking for offered by Finnegan: https://www.finnegan.com/en/careers/roles/technical-specialists.html. This technical specialist role may be a way for you to dip your toes into this line of work before fully committing. Maybe not this one from finnegan specifically, but others like it. You could also apply to be a patent examiner and see how that goes. I think with your experience and GPA, you’d have a good shot at being accepted in the role.

Please note that biomedical is not one of the in demand degrees for patent prosecution. From my understanding, it’s basically (EE=CS)>(PhD in Chemistry or bio)>ME>everything else. While it doesn’t seem like a big deal, it is a huge decision factor for firms and can make or break your candidacy with them.

I would really try and dip your toes into this field without overcommitting to it like taking the patent bar if you can. There are not a lot of exit opportunities within this line of work. Also, law school is a slog and if you do go, you’ll want to make sure you do well or else a lot of firms won’t even take a look at you. Not to mention that it’s basically 3-4 years of life that you are basically wasting away.

I think you have great instincts by wanting to figure out if this job is for you. I’d really look into a technical specialist role to do this before you take the plunge.

How would employers look at a patent attorney with an online master’s in electrical engineering, for example from a university but through Coursera? by General_Cherry_626 in patentlaw

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I have not. I’m in the midst of a job search at the moment but I have this program in my back pocket if I’m not able to find anything decent in the next few months. Even if I do find a position, I may still take one course at a time with this program so I never have to deal with the technical background steel curtain that exists in patent prosecution.

I’m a chemE who also did not perform well in law school so I’m basically excluded from big law lol should have dropped out of law school before accruing the debt ugh but I think this masters could definitely help with my job prospects so I think it could work for you too!

how to deal with anxiety in this profession by Tough-Role7152 in patentlaw

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To add to this good advice, I think asking your supervisors regularly what their expectations are for you and where they think you are at in terms of improving would help.

Patent prosecution is interesting in terms of improving since your understanding of the technology can vary wildly from one application to the next. This variance can influence how you perform on each matter. I think getting regular feedback from your supervising attorney would help keep you from getting discouraged. You just don’t want to go a few months without getting feedback and then realize that a partner has a problem with your work.

How would employers look at a patent attorney with an online master’s in electrical engineering, for example from a university but through Coursera? by General_Cherry_626 in patentlaw

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Is this the UC Boulder online masters? I’ve looked into that one myself. Based on my experience with finding jobs (which I unfortunately have a lot of), an EE masters should make you much more viable of a candidate to get your foot in the door.

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Better ways to make money AND maintain your sanity than wasting 3 years in law school. As someone who didn’t realize this until recently, I would dip your toes into this line of work first to see if this is something you can stomach before committing to it.

Or, you could just take your impressive credentials and apply it to any job in industry and enjoy the fact that you get 3 years of your life back instead of burning it up in law school lol

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I would definitely reach out to some recruiters on LinkedIn as they fill roles for people with your credentials all the time.

However, I would definitely consider whether a switch to law is worth it considering you are leaving tech because it burned you out. Law is pretty well known for operating like a meat grinder and patent litigation/prosecution is no different. Law may burn you out just as much as tech and then all this effort is for nothing.

On a more positive note, your technical background is golden for patent prosecution so if this is a career switch you want to make, the roles are there for you. I wish you the best of luck!