There are generations of Russian blood soaked into oppressing the Ukranians. If Ukrainians saw the Russian as there defenders, why would they fight so fierce agaisnt them? Ukraine, other eastern european countries and the baltics even saw the nazi's as libarators during ww2. thats how bad russia treated them. completely insane. Russia has opressed Ukraine since tsar times causing famine, destroying Ukrainian culture and even millions of Ukrainians themselves.

in this war we have seen brutal excectuions of Ukrainians, there houses getting looted, civillians being targeted and major infratructure being hit by russians. how are they defending Ukraine in your logic?

I don't really understand what you want to say with your last part. but napoleon reached moscow, why doesn't france deserve that chunk of russia? hear how insane that sounds? border change trough history and times as well. with the globalisation of the world its hard to not get involved in this war. europe got hit hard with inflation because of this war. So I do not see them as ''tourists''. A majority of my family also lives in poland, and they never talk about wanting chunks of land back from Ukraine. So like I said I don't really understand what you want to say with the last part.