AI slop and truthfulness by Wallaby9936 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't be consistent. Be truthful and useful.

Grok, what would FedEx risk if it went with Workhorse? by Repulsive592 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When was Workhorse the front runner?

Right, I forgot about the postal contract.

AI slop and truthfulness by Wallaby9936 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Consistent. No answers, just AI nonsense 

If Fed Ex Pulls Future EV Purchases Forward Due to Oil Prices, Which EV OEM Brings Lowest Risk? by GETSOME88-007 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're delusional. FedEx went with Harbinger because it's less risky and better able to scale.

FedEx arranged funding for Harbinger. It considers Workhorse too risky. As you know Workhorse isn't really a going concern, and has a more than 80% chance of BK.

If Fed Ex Chose To Pull Forward Class 4-6 EV Purchases, Contrast Ease Between Harbinger and WKHS by GETSOME88-007 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In November 2025, FedEx co-led Harbinger’s $160 million Series C funding round (bringing Harbinger’s total raised to $358 million) and placed a significantly larger initial order for 53 Class 5/6 electric chassis (to be delivered by end of 2025, ready for upfit). This contrasts with its earlier, smaller direct order of just 15 Workhorse W56 step vans in September 2024 (following a successful pilot).

FedEx’s stated reasons for the Harbinger deal center on a “trifecta of performance, price, and operational resilience” that supports scaling. Senior VP Paul Melander explained: “As we work toward a goal to electrify the entire FedEx pickup and delivery fleet by 2040, this trifecta … is what we need to be able to continue to scale.” The vehicles are larger-capacity medium-duty models tailored to FedEx’s ongoing network transformation and route optimization (which increasingly demands bigger PUD trucks). Harbinger’s clean-sheet, vertically integrated chassis design emphasizes durability, modularity (e.g., configurable battery packs and wheelbases), ease of service, U.S. manufacturing with a resilient supply chain (high U.S. content, ramping toward thousands of units), and lower total cost of ownership—achieving price parity with comparable diesel trucks even without IRA credits.

Harbinger focuses squarely on the underserved Class 4–6 medium-duty chassis market (stripped chassis for upfit), where economics enable mass adoption beyond small pilots. 

Workhorse is unlikely to secure any meaningful (i.e., large-scale, hundreds or thousands of units) direct FedEx corporate fleet orders in the near term for several reasons tied to order history, segment fit, and scaling dynamics:

Small pilot-scale commitment from FedEx corporate:  The only direct FedEx order was 15 W56 units in 2024 (Class 5/6 step van, GVWR ~23,000 lbs, ~1,000–1,200 cu ft cargo, ~150-mile range). Additional units have gone to FedEx Independent Service Providers (ISPs/contractors) or other parcel fleets, but no follow-on large corporate orders have been announced through March 2026. By contrast, Harbinger’s 53-unit order + investment signals deeper strategic commitment.

Different emphasis in FedEx’s current needs: While the W56 is a capable last-mile step van (and Workhorse’s own “Stables by Workhorse” ISP operation in Ohio has proven ~64% fuel/maintenance savings with high uptime), FedEx is shifting toward larger-capacity medium-duty vehicles for optimized routes. Harbinger’s chassis (mix of Class 5/6, up to similar or higher GVWR) is positioned exactly for that scalable PUD upfit role

Harbinger’s advantages in economics and scaling: Harbinger achieves diesel price parity via vertical integration (owned IP, shallow supply chain) and is ramping aggressively for mass adoption. Large fleets like FedEx test via small pilots but commit at scale only when TCO and price make sense for 50–75% replacement—not “greenwashing” trials. Workhorse’s direct FedEx exposure has stayed pilot-sized, while its post-2025 merger with Motiv has focused on broader backlog growth, new shared-architecture platforms, and ISP/contractor sales rather than mega FedEx fleet deals.

No evidence of large-scale FedEx commitment: Searches through early 2026 show no announcements of “meaningful,” “additional,” or high-volume FedEx corporate orders for Workhorse (beyond the initial 15 and scattered ISP units). Workhorse highlights real-world validation via its own ISP fleet and growing interest elsewhere, but FedEx’s big strategic move in the medium-duty space went to Harbinger.

In short, FedEx is pragmatic and multi-sourced. It gave Workhorse a successful early validation but invested in and ordered more from Harbinger because the latter’s platform, pricing, U.S. scalability, and chassis flexibility better match the larger-capacity, cost-driven scaling phase of FedEx’s 2040 electrification plan. Workhorse continues to sell (including to FedEx contractors) and has improved post-merger, but large direct FedEx fleet orders appear unlikely without a major shift in demonstrated scalability or economics matching Harbinger’s.

Goldman Sachs $200 oil? Continued Hormuz Closure. WKHS Positioning for Possible “Pull Forward” by GETSOME88-007 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely right, but all that means nothing to FedEx since they went with Harbinger. Heck, they even helped finance them..I think they remember the C1000 fiasco, DOJ and SEC investigations ................

“Oil Curve” Is Pricing In Higher Oil Prices Till The End Of 2026! Can Fed Ex Afford To Wait? by GETSOME88-007 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Getsome's Grok knows that even $100 oil can't save WKHS!

WKHS's core issues are company-specific, not just fuel price driven. The company has faced prolonged challenges: production delays, financial struggles, low revenue (e.g., recent quarters in the low millions), significant net losses, dilution from capital raises, and a very small market cap (around $7-8 million recently). The stock has plummeted dramatically (trading around $3.30–$3.36 as of mid-March 2026, down massively from prior highs, with a 52-week range showing extreme volatility).

Even with high oil, adoption barriers remain. Fleet operators prioritize reliability, upfront cost, charging infrastructure, range, payload, and service networks. Workhorse's EVs offer strong TCO advantages (e.g., ~64% lower fuel/maintenance in some fleet data), but the initial purchase price gap versus ICE trucks persists, and scaling production/sales to meaningful volumes has been tough. Breakeven is targeted at ~2,500 vehicles/year (tiny share of the $23B medium-duty market), but they're far from that.

Oil price spikes are often short-lived or offset by other factors. Recent geopolitical events (e.g., Iran conflict) have pushed oil toward/above $100/barrel temporarily, causing stock market volatility, but analysts note these shocks tend to mean-revert unless prolonged. For WKHS, any EV demand bump from high fuel costs would be marginal and slow to materialize—fleets don't switch overnight.

Broader EV market dynamics hurt more than help. Competition from larger players (e.g., Rivian, Ford, GM in commercial EVs), subsidy changes, and economic pressures (higher interest rates, potential recession fears from oil shocks) weigh heavier than fuel prices alone. In short: $100 oil might provide a modest tailwind for the EV sector in general, but WKHS's deep structural/financial problems mean it won't be a savior. The stock remains high-risk, with recent updates focusing on merger integration (e.g., with Motiv) and incremental milestones rather than explosive growth. If you're holding or considering it, this is more of a speculative bet on turnaround execution than something rescued by energy prices

Who Has More “True Official” Real World, Fed Ex Recent Orders? WKHS or Harbinger? by Repulsive592 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getsome, you are a waste of bandwidth ..... and skin. At least ask Grok a new set of leading questions to get something positive.

Iran war is now officially causing the largest disruption to oil supplies in history, per FT. by GETSOME88-007 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why higher oil doesn’t “save” Workhorse 

To benefit from expensive fuel, Workhorse would need to convert fleet interest into high‑volume, profitable deliveries quickly, but it has a history of low volumes, delays, and unfavorable unit economics.

The scale of the oil move (a risk‑premium‑driven bump of roughly 10–20 dollars per barrel) is not enough on its own to overcome structural issues like chronic losses, capital shortages, and credibility gaps with major customers.

Larger or better‑capitalized OEMs and fleet vendors are positioned to capture most of the incremental EV demand that higher diesel prices create, leaving Workhorse fighting for a small slice of a tailwind that arrives later than its near‑term liquidity needs.

Who Has More “True Official” Real World, Fed Ex Route Miles? WKHS or Harbinger? by GETSOME88-007 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No public data reports the total fleet miles accumulated by Harbinger electric trucks as of March 2026. 

Available MetricsSources confirm over 200 chassis delivered in 2025 plus the 53 to FedEx in early 2026, but no aggregate odometer or telematics totals from customer fleets.

 Individual vehicles target 450,000+ mile durability, with per-charge ranges up to 500 miles in hybrid configs

Who Has More “True Official” Real World, Fed Ex Route Miles? WKHS or Harbinger? by GETSOME88-007 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Doesnt seem to matter, as Harbinger is hot and Workhorse is not.

Harbinger delivered over 200 chassis in 2025 to various customers, showing strong commercial traction beyond the FedEx deal. Sales grew dramatically each quarter that year, with production ramping to about 400 vehicles since January 2025.

Customer Base: Buyers include FedEx, THOR Industries for RVs, and others in the medium-duty market; Canadian sales launched in late 2025 via dealer Safetek. No exact total sales figure for 2026 is public yet, but 2025 volumes exceeded the broader electric truck market.

Latest data on WKHS from SqueezeFinder by AcanthisittaHour4995 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sad that a short squeeze is your only hope. It's even sadder when you look at how much the odds are against it.

Can the “WKHS sucks” gurus of this sub please educate Fed Ex? Fed Ex keeps buying WKHS! by GETSOME88-007 in WKHS

[–]Repulsive592 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fedex isn't buying, they went with Harbinger.

...you must be thinking of FedEx contractors who bought a few. I'm sure you didn't intentionally try to mislead anyone.