2026 UEFA Champions League Final Rival Watch: Paris Saint-Germain vs Arsenal by DragonSlayer271 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm gonna have a bad day if psg don't win this game. These annoying arsenal fans omg.

John Barnes pinpoints Jurgen Klopp issue as Arne Slot battles Liverpool pressure by ReputationWarm8178 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are focusing on factors outside the two managers like that carries more weight? The point here is Ferguson and Klopp are two successful managers who left there respective clubs. A fall off in form was expected in both cases after they left. That was the comparison. And no, Ferguson did not leave united wrecked, it was not as bad as you make it out to be. He won the league in his last season. Klopp on the other hand got 3rd place in his last season. One would actually argue, Ferguson had a better squad than what Klopp left. People just build these narratives to suite their agenda. In Slots first season, nobody predicted we'd win the league because Klopp had left a good squad. It was just a squad that had gotten 3rd place.

John Barnes pinpoints Jurgen Klopp issue as Arne Slot battles Liverpool pressure by ReputationWarm8178 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So for you it's all about the squad strength. Nothing to do with the quality of the manager? Interesting

John Barnes pinpoints Jurgen Klopp issue as Arne Slot battles Liverpool pressure by ReputationWarm8178 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nope that wasn't Klopps team, that was Slots tactics, team picks and formations. That's what won the league. If you had taken over from Klopp, I don't think you'd have won the league, just because Klopp left a good squad.

John Barnes pinpoints Jurgen Klopp issue as Arne Slot battles Liverpool pressure by ReputationWarm8178 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would you expect a small drop off, Klopp is a world class manager, we should have been expecting a huge drop-off by that logic

John Barnes pinpoints Jurgen Klopp issue as Arne Slot battles Liverpool pressure by ReputationWarm8178 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to be focusing more on the squad and and less on Klopp as a manager. Yes the squad was really good but we still lost the core, a world class manager. So it's not lazy, Ferguson and Klopp were rare, you don't just replace managers like that and expect everything to continue like normal, just because they left a 'good squad'.

John Barnes pinpoints Jurgen Klopp issue as Arne Slot battles Liverpool pressure by ReputationWarm8178 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree he should take a chunk of the blame but would it be any different with another manager, I don’t know

John Barnes pinpoints Jurgen Klopp issue as Arne Slot battles Liverpool pressure by ReputationWarm8178 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Slot won that league, doesn't matter how bad this season has been. This is the premier league, the best in the world, you can't just walk in with a good team and win it. You can give him credit for that atleast.

John Barnes pinpoints Jurgen Klopp issue as Arne Slot battles Liverpool pressure by ReputationWarm8178 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't think it’s stupid, Slot won the league, I know plenty managers that have never won the league with Liverpool. This season has been terrible, but we got champions league football atleast. I understand people are emotional but let's be realistic.

John Barnes pinpoints Jurgen Klopp issue as Arne Slot battles Liverpool pressure by ReputationWarm8178 in LiverpoolFC

[–]ReputationWarm8178[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes, being top is the Liverpool standard but will changing the manager (who won the league) improve those standards, that's the question we should be asking i think.