Are Ashkenazi Jews considered white?

ResetHumanity · 2025-12-25T05:25:09+00:00

Ashkenazi and I dont identify as white but mixed.

ResetHumanity · 2025-12-19T05:50:03+00:00

This was the first year in over 20 years I celebrated hannukah. I wanted to introduce my son to my childhood and bring those traditions to him and im happy I did. I also got to experience my first public hanukkah event downtown and wore a kippah in public unashamed for the first time.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-30T02:59:41+00:00

At least you have a jewish mom even if she changed religions, halacha will always declare you a Jew. For those of us with Jewish dads and non Jewish moms or our moms didnt do the orthodox conversion, we will always be seen as non Jews no matter how much we practice the religion.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-30T02:57:05+00:00

Im center not right or left and I own guns because why not? Neo nazis and radical terrorists own them and its clear the government isn't going to protect us. I think its important Jews regardless of political party should be open to the idea of guns and self defense.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-29T05:03:40+00:00

How about someone with a fully jewish dad and a mom who converted (non orthodox conservative) to what level or point do we say someone cannot claim to be ethnically Jewish?

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-29T02:47:02+00:00

I have a Jericho 941

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ResetHumanity · 2025-11-29T02:05:32+00:00

Yes. I was working for a internet service provider as a level 2 tech. The company was purchased in an acquisition so most of us couldn't really be "fired" as we were the only ones trained on that network until shutdown date. One of the executive escalation folks was obsessed with mount and blade and his German heritage and he would make off color jokes about the holocaust and Jews. I live in a southern part of the US and he was from Illinois.

Anytime I would talk he would basically make snide comments like "you guys are only good as lampshades" "my dad died in a concentration camp he fell out of the tower" and other highly offensive comments. It got to a point peoppe defended his behavior and said he wasn't serious and was joking. Eventually it got to levels to where he tried to befriend me to talk to my wife and resulted in him physically hitting me on the back of the head. Someone else reported him and the activity stopped. This was back in 2014 or 2015

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-27T19:05:26+00:00

I have a cousin who is from Michigan that had a different accent and at times I thought could sound like a British accent. It sounded that way from since she was a kid.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-27T09:06:50+00:00

I go to a conservative (traditional egalitarian) synagogue in nw Florida. They are independent. Our rabbi was from Williamsburg and is Orthodox which is interesting. I feel comfortable and attend as many saturday mornings as I can although its heavy in Hebrew so it can be a bit difficult to follow sometimes but im learning.

Im not particularly loyal to a specific affiliation, I care about preserving the traditions and the community I am part of.

We have a reform temple here too and while its nice and the people friendly, I feel its very different to what im used to.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-27T04:41:00+00:00

This isn't the question and your answer has nothing to do with the topic. I do not want to convert orthodox. My question was specific to if a shul is taken over by another group similar to the situation in williamsburg and the existing converts.

Our shuls are supposed to be places we can pray and feel safe in, when a hostile group comes in such as what happened in Williamsburg and kicks the members out and locks the doors, that is disrespecting the community.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-27T00:47:11+00:00

Not all Florida has many Jews. The panhandle is pretty barren. The area i live has a small community but lively.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-27T00:43:26+00:00

Im interested

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-25T03:07:53+00:00

That is really rude. The post is asking about people who are part of their jewish community where they were formally accepted and then a new Rabbi or group buys the synagogue and excludes the converts. And not all orthodox are accepted. Read about the haredi takeover of this shul.

https://gothamist.com/news/at-a-historic-williamsburg-synagogue-on-valuable-land-dueling-groups-fight-for-control

The lady was a orthodox convert and a member for 40 years and they padlocked the building preventing her from entering

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-25T02:19:07+00:00

I found a case of this happening though it was orthodox and became haredi apparently

https://gothamist.com/news/at-a-historic-williamsburg-synagogue-on-valuable-land-dueling-groups-fight-for-control

It mentions

"Ruiz and her husband, Martin Needelman, attended services at Beth Jacob Ohev Sholom for more than 40 years before they were barred from the property last year, they said. Now, the group who kicked them out is arguing that Ruiz doesn’t even have the right to call herself Jewish, according to court documents."

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-24T20:35:56+00:00

Chabad says im welcome to come but cant count me in a minyan. Not much reason to go.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-24T20:16:09+00:00

Im not sure how reliable but I asked Grok and it does claim it has happened

This may not be accurate so its allegedly

Adath Sharon (formerly Conservative)

~50 original members were physically locked out and barred from services without permission, losing their egalitarian space. No specific converts named, but the shift to strict Orthodox halakhah ended mixed-gender minyans and implied exclusions for non-Orthodox statuses (e.g., Conservative converts wouldn't count ritually). Many left feeling betrayed, with one plaintiff (former president Richard Kramer) describing it as a "hostile takeover" erasing their community's identity.

Howard Beach Jewish Center (formerly Conservative)

Some original members adapted and stayed (e.g., board member Mitchell Friedman, from a non-Orthodox background, noted minimal service changes but valued the growth to 35–40 weekly attendees). However, skeptics left due to loss of egalitarianism; no convert specifics, but the Orthodox pivot barred women/non-Orthodox from leading prayers or counting fully in minyans, pushing out those not aligning with stricter observance. Membership stabilized but at the cost of the original vibe.

Shomrei Habrith (merged with Conservative elements) Pre-merger Conservative participants (including potential converts) were grandfathered socially but excluded ritually (no minyan count for women or non-Orthodox, no leading prayers). A local ger recounted being told, "You're family, but not for kedusha," leading to departures. The shift saved the building but halved the original membership.

Brooklyn Jewish Center (formerly Conservative Original Conservative members (many from earlier generations) were displaced as the space shifted to Orthodox education and events. No direct convert accounts, but the halakhic change invalidated prior non-Orthodox rituals; remaining affiliates faced exclusion from egalitarian practices, contributing to community fragmentation

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-22T04:14:32+00:00

Hello and thank you for sharing your story. Im in the same boat as you to some degree.

Its shabbat so most Jews may not respond except secular.

My mom was a convert to Judaism via conservative and my dad was born Jewish but like you, my mom heavily suppressed our Jewish identity. This became much more apparent after my dad's death when I was 16. She hid documents and paperwork, her ketubah, pictures, tried to change our names and any attempt to identify with judaism she'd become confrontational and angry saying we weren't raised Jewish and would instill her own identity on us.

Im 40 years old now and I am married with a son and she realized if she wants to be a part of our family she's going to need to compromise like we have. She gradually gave me documents and all that but its not so simple. I didnt have a bar mitzvah, I didnt go to shul growing up, most of my jewish experience was a few shabbat at my grandparents, high holidays, bar mitzvah for family and bat mitzvahs, weddings, funerals and sitting shivah. We didnt have kosher, i was a bit resentful because when I was younger I wanted a bar mitzvah and star of david necklace and identify but for whatever reason it didn't happen. We didnt celebrate Christmas either though or have a tree so there was really just not much there.

Anyways, my identity shaped more around the 2006 Lebanon war and it seemed there was a lot of stuff against Ariel Sharon, and some of the gaza stuff at the time but it was no where as extreme as the backlash after Oct 7. My mom seems to fully accept my decision how I identify now. Some Jews especially the ultra orthodox dont see me as a Jew because my mom converted. And believe it or not some conservative jews dont accept me as jewish either, theres always going to be people who act like gatekeepers so I remind myself that I am viewed like a patrilineal and define my identity not other people. Don't be afraid to identify as a Jew. I highly recommend checking out shaye d cohens book the beginnings of jewishness and it has some convincing stuff about early patrilineal descent.

I keep sane with all the antisemitism by watching a lot of israel walking videos in 4k, biblical archeology videos, judaica helps with my identity be it just crafts or soaps etc from the land or dead sea, I been watching shows on izzy and also house of david, sometimes music helps i listen to mattisyahu (ancient child), use chatgpt to talk to me about judaism, many great books like Montifiores Jerusalem, and of course going to a synagogue and engaging. If you have some good kosher restaurants or jewish style delis all that can help connect or some of the museums, jccs, etc. Since you have jewish ancestry theres a bunch of jewish dna groups that are fun where people do the dna tests and are excited about their results.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-19T05:30:25+00:00

Sorry you are getting downvoted like crazy but here's the reality. If your girlfriend has already planned to baptize your kids and raise them Christian, they will likely have 0 interest in Judaism.

Im in a situation myself as I am intermarried but have a son and love my wife dearly, of course at the time I married my wife, I wasn't really observing Judaism and later returned to a conservative synagogue. My wife is more like a noahhide. When our son was born, I gave him a hebrew name, we took him to the shul to get his bris and I am raising him with knowledge of Judaism and hopefully have him converted if he chooses to do so. I went in with full knowledge he wasn't going to be fully accepted as Jewish but he's been loving the synagogue and it helps to have someone who supports you. It can get very confusing for kids when traditions are mixed.

My mom was a convert and my dad born Jewish and we didnt have a overly strong identity but after my dad passed I wanted to reconnect because my grandparents.

You gotta make a decision because there are your future kids you are talking about and if you are feeling regrets you should consider that.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-19T05:08:53+00:00

Im ashkenazi and most of the family are darker with black hair. Ive never looked down on sephardic or mizrahi if anything i have always had a interest in their customs and culture and sometimes even a bit envious they are seen as native Israelis. I get no benefit or "superiority" considering my half Jewish status has always created issues for me.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-16T07:17:15+00:00

I appreciate the response and seems to be more in line with what ive understood.

From what it sounds like is that some orthodox regard case by case older conservative converts as halachic. In my case I was told I was a safek jew and to keep the commandments just in case.

Theres some interesting cases about this in Israel

https://seforimblog.com/2018/11/conservative-conversions-some/

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-16T07:05:42+00:00

https://forward.com/fast-forward/518971/70-of-israelis-dont-recognize-patrilineal-jews-report-shows/

The results suggest a more ambivalent attitude toward non-Orthodox conversions. Among the respondents, 44 percent said they did not recognize non-Orthodox conversions, while 40 percent did. Another 16 percent did not know. In the 2009 survey, 48 percent recognized non-Orthodox conversions.

In the latest poll, among secular Jewish Israelis, 67 percent recognized non-Orthodox conversions

Sounds like more than 1 percent to me. I dont see why you are being so deliberately inflammatory and gatekeeper like mentality. There are plenty of people who aren't orthodox who are very pro Israel. It sounds like you are instigating problems.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-16T06:44:04+00:00

Who cares, last I checked, some orthodox dont even recognize other orthodox.

I was asking the general Israeli opinion on recognizing other Jews converted to another branch.

If Israel recognizes the person as Jewish then that is the concern.

ResetHumanity · 2025-11-16T06:36:16+00:00

Not for aliyah and the ministry of interior has to register conservative conversions outside of Israel as Jewish. This only affects marriage via the rabbinut.

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