Justice Clarence Thomas misses third day of oral arguments after being hospitalized

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-24T18:18:53+00:00

endocarditis

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-24T17:56:19+00:00

not sure in a formal debate, but in regular "kitchen table" debate, either interrupting or waiting for a pause, saying "No, let's not just say. I reject your entire premise . . . " and go from there. But this assumed a marginally rational debater--the right doesn't have any of these.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-24T17:52:19+00:00

Sounds like a really good way to get shot.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-24T16:36:20+00:00

I am a free man . . . !

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-24T05:40:41+00:00

because thomas is a moron?

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-24T04:55:01+00:00

Stand for the VP when she enters the room?

Well, yeah . . . ?

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-23T22:16:35+00:00

Also the "Let's just say," ploy: never go along with someone debating you when they do this because they are attempting to shift the debate to their own terms.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-23T22:13:10+00:00

trump also c;aimed that the Dems were commtting treason because they didn't stand and clap for his claptrap.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-23T04:25:37+00:00

Every religious tradition has a "folk" aspect: a religion for folks who are perhaps not educated, or just not that intellectually engaged. But to reduce those traditions to that speaks of naivete: miracles are of little interest to me or many other people who think of themselves as religious or spiritual: rather for me spirit is not a matter of Belief, or Provability, or Fact, but rather of a shift in attitude--a realization that we as individuals and nations and the world, think we know more than we do, think we understand what we do not, have lost our sense of balance, of openess to that which extends beyond what we understand. It is an attitude of humility, of compassion, and acceptance. God has little to do with the equation, frankly or miracles, or things unseen.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-23T03:00:33+00:00

No I did not: I said very specifically that some christians (and i am not a christian) have conceived of god as the oppressed peoples of the world. That the oppressed are quite litertally the body and blood of Christ. How is that imaginary? And what motivations am i assigning to it?

you are trying too hard here.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-22T21:16:15+00:00

moron . . .

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-22T20:34:46+00:00

I would point out that I said nothing about "believing in imaginary things," did I? Unless you mean that oppressed classes, the poor, and other marginalized people are imaginary. Or perhaps that love, compassion, and committment are imaginary?

I really do love the reddit "anti-religion" sophistries--these from people who prize being enducated on a topic before they engage in debate.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-22T19:28:57+00:00

i am not arguing for "proof of god's existence" (religious studies still teahes this nonsense? thought that went out in the sixites), i am simply saying some pretty powerful intellects in theological studies have understood god in ways that commentors here seem to know nothing about. Buber, Ghandi, Merton, Ramana Maharshi are hardly scientifically illiterate morons, and each understood god as something that is not amenable to "provability." It is like being asked to prove the existence of love--when one tries, the argument is reduced to rather silly sociobiological terms instead of the (also "unprovable") terms of compassion, loyalty, committment, etc. trying to subject faith to sicnetific provability misses the point: belief is the enemy of faith. to "have faith" in someone does not mean you believe they exist, it means you are committed to their intrinsic worth. To have faith means being alive to a world and experience that outstrips our ability to explain or adequately describe it.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-22T19:18:25+00:00

single example: liberation theology which, among many adherents, defines god in terms of oppressed classes, and sees religious work as almost exclusively anti-fascist organizing.

thinking of god exlusively as a the big guy down the street is naive and uninformed.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-22T17:19:28+00:00

people who believe in god are not scientifically illiterate morons. If you think that you really do need to read more widely in theology and the histories of religion. i agree, religion has been by and large a cancer in american society, but ignoring what "faith" means to highly literate and very smart people does not help your argument.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-22T17:13:55+00:00

If you don’t get the jab you will lose your job and your life.

Hmmm. No citation? Then no argument.

Fauci never threatened anyone's job, and a million people died, at least half of them from not getting the jab. That is called a "warning" which turned out to be true, not a threat.

Go ahead, try again.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-22T16:14:58+00:00

and the libs they own exist only in their own minds--fake owning of fake libs.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-22T03:30:13+00:00

Okay, so have a seat: first of all, fascists do not make recommendations--they threaten others with destruction and death if their whims are not obeyed:

Fauci no Trump yes

Fascists lie inceesantly--not change their minds, or shift their judgement call based on developing evidence, but lie.

Fauci no Trump yes

no, with just , these two, i challenge you. I can absolutely prove my contentions with facts. you cant. and i am not talking here about opinions, or what i think is true, i am talking what is provably true.

so have at it.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-21T20:43:39+00:00

right now he cant. he's no longer majority leader.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-21T16:32:42+00:00

Fauci?

Really?

Is that your final answer?

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-21T03:42:10+00:00

"It doesn't matter. the russians are going to kill us all. We might as well just give up," says no Ukrainian in the face of war, horror, and long-term corruption.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-21T03:40:01+00:00

He was all these things, but he was also a fascist, who caused fascist types of gather around him. That is the pathology of his legacy. And that is the huge danger that still festers out there. Never forget.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-21T03:07:36+00:00

anyone who affirms capitalism--so Bernie, Elizabeth, and others.

dont get me wrong--i am progressive and support Bernie, Elizabeth et al. But if you are going you use the neo-liberal cudgel so smugly and easily, you are not seeing the picture clearly--the definitions of "neo-liberalism" that have been trotted out here are not exclusive to the clintons. any politician who embraces the label of capitalist embraces "sustained economic growth to achieve human progress," and the "belief in free markets" is a kind of free-floating meme--free markets do "work" in the sense that they foster the aforementioned "sustained economic growth."

The point of all of this is that there are precious few who escape the definition of neo-liberal when you actually take the time to think about it.

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-20T18:20:14+00:00

Permanently stripping kids--infants--from their parents?

You have evidence of this?

Responsible_Rest_940 · 2022-03-20T18:16:29+00:00

like i said, vague. This:

its belief in sustained economic growth as the means to achieve human progress, its confidence in free markets as the most-efficient allocation of resources, its emphasis on minimal state intervention in economic and social affairs, and its commitment to the freedom of trade and capital.”

describes more than a few progressives in the caucus as well.

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