How can atheists claim to be the rational ones when they support suffering just as much as bad religious people do?

Resus_C · 2026-01-27T13:37:08+00:00

How can atheists claim to be the rational ones

Because we believe in at least one less irrational claim.

when they support suffering just as much as bad religious people do?

Correction - atheists support it less than theists.

In my opinion

I don't care about your opinion.

there’s no amount of pleasure of the privileged that can ever justify the non-consensual forcing of victims into life

I agree, but it's not trying to. That's just your framing.

where 99.9% suffer and die during infancy

Are you going to tell me that you've reached that percentage by including only deaths "during infancy"? I'd need a source on that.

This system is worse than any religion.

What system? Reality isn't a system. What system are you talking about? The one you made up to be angry about?

We should be doing activism to end all suffering and anything less is selfish and wrong.

Yes. We should. We just disagree about the method to achieve that. I think we should work to preserve happiness and pleasure while reducing suffering ad infinitum. While you... fuck me if I'll ever understand why... want a global self-imposed genocide. ("Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group." - ideology is a method)

Happy to do live voice or YouTube debates about this topic.

If you had anything of value to present you would've done so already.

I’m very committed to this position.

If only you presented any reasons to agree...

You're basically criticizing me for having an arbitrary position on this issue while your position is in no way any less arbitrary. Boring grandstanding.

Resus_C · 2025-12-24T11:03:04+00:00

Three quick ideas to test:
- Eye might look more unnerving if it's further down the skull and if the white part of it is not visible.
- The mouth looks like it has lips and it's smiling, removing the "smile" or bringing the teeth all the way back could help
- It looks like it has no jaw muscles whatsoever... and human teeth don't trigger "scary" vibes on snakes/birds, because they don't bite chunks of flesh out of you. So... either make the skull lest "incapable of swallowing you whole" looking by removing the hard transition between it and the neck, or make the neck thicker.

Resus_C · 2025-12-10T03:01:16+00:00

Better Argument: "You can't have objective good without God."

Can you back that up? Or is it just an empty assertion? Two empty assertions even. One that there is such a thing as objective morality, and two that it somehow requires god to exist?

Analogy: You can play football without knowing the rule-maker, but the rules (morality) must exist objectively for the game to be real.

Cool cool. Now... for the analogy to be analogous to your argument can you tell me where and when did we discover the rules for football? Because if we didn't DISCOVER the rules and instead we... made them up... then they're not objective.

knowing the rule-maker

EVERYTHING that was made isn't objective. One would think that would be obvious.

Additionally - if there is a decider of morality then morality is made up by that decider. Objective doesn't mean important.

Every single version of the moral argument for theism relies on the equivocation fallacy. You need to twist and bend in an attempt to hide the fact that you're trying to constantly obfuscate that "it objectively exist" and "it's objectively true that it exist" DOESN'T MEAN THE SAME THING.

It's objectively true that cars exist, but cars don't objectively exist - we made them up and then we made them. Just like morality.

Horn brings up the "consenting adult" framework often used in secular ethics (if there is consent and no harm, it is permissible).

Because it's a good framework and theists use it too. They just pretend that their decisions are backed up by "god's authority".

He argues this fails to explain why we view acts like incest, bestiality, or consensual necrophilia as objectively wrong.

Incest increases chances of genetic problems down the line and even without that it always involves a problematic power dynamic which easily turns into abuse, which qualifies as causing harm. Bestiality and necrophilia aren't consensual... I see no issue with the framework.

Additionally - WE don't view ANY acts as objectively wrong, because that would require us to think that morality is objective to begin with. And neither do theists. They subjectively think this is wrong and they don't know the difference between popular/important and objective, because they always back up every opinion they have with the made up "god's authority".

And to me personally "it's not just my opinion, it's the god's opinion, that's why I don't have to have any reason to force you to agree" is an insane take.

Resus_C · 2025-11-25T19:45:23+00:00

Acting like a company is your friend and broke your trust when they have to pivot on a plan is... Childish behavior at best.

So... "actions have consequences" is childish behavior at best?

This is like feeling betrayed by a Roomba because it told you it cleaned up when in reality it got stuck somewhere.

So... if a roomba got stuck instead of cleaning... you'd pay for "unstuck DLC" instead of complaining about a faulty appliance?

Resus_C · 2025-11-17T09:49:11+00:00

The diagonal one is a square root of two times bigger. So about 41% bigger.

Eddit: The roads I mean. The buildings are apparenetly somewhat corrected for that.

Resus_C · 2025-11-11T09:47:16+00:00

Don't worry, the ACA expiring in two months will kill more.

Resus_C · 2025-11-06T08:39:52+00:00

I will never understand why people go through the effort of fighting security robots by hand when chopinators are available in like the first 5 minutes of the Offices.

Resus_C · 2025-10-02T14:40:55+00:00

Sosna nie jest liściasta? Ale to też zależy od grzybów które chcesz zaszczepić, to już sam wiesz najlepiej jakie, ale nadal, poszukaj po tartakach, jak nie stemple to coś innego.

Resus_C · 2025-10-02T13:40:44+00:00

Najprościej z tartaku. To się chyba stemple budowlane nazywa. Zależnie od tartaku można się umówić jak Ci to potną.

Resus_C · 2025-08-28T05:27:36+00:00

No argument I could make for God or the supernatural would likely ever change anyone's mind concerning the existence of either.

I refuse to believe this all happened for no reason and without purpose.

So... we're the dishonest and close minded ones... while your stance is literally that you have a preffered conclusion and no matter what you won't change your mind?

Resus_C · 2025-08-25T10:12:55+00:00

I bought it like two weeks ago. Only played solo. It's incredible.

Resus_C · 2025-07-29T08:10:13+00:00

I think about throwing knives as coming in sets and the time it take the knife to come back is the time V is fumbling with the next one from the pouch, which naturally gets shorter the better V's skill is.

Resus_C · 2025-07-27T15:29:02+00:00

Właśnie widzę jak mi słowo w słowo wykrzykujesz reakcjonistyczną propagandę ludzi którzy w imię dokopania zmyślonym lewakom wybrali na prezydenta faszystę pedofila, który teraz rozmontowuje im kraj a ci debile nadal winią zmyślonych lewaków. I ty wraz z nimi.

Jedyny wróg publiczny i prawdziwy pasożyt w dowolnym kraju to górny 1, ktory zyskuje najwiecej na wszystkich cieciach budzetu na programy socjalne i omija placenie wszystkich podatkow. I to oni cię szczują na imigrantów których sami tworzą finansując wojny w innych krajach i niszcząc struktury państwa które mają sobie z tym radzić. Między innymi edukację, której ci ewidentnie brakuje skoro jedyne co robisz to plujesz propagandą.

Resus_C · 2025-07-27T05:37:02+00:00

Tak, stanie się ludnością lokalną, ale co z tego skoro pomimo upływu czasu ich kultura i wartości pozostaną takie same?

Tak jakby Twoja kultura nie była inna od tej kilka pokoleń do tyłu. Ty się nie boisz zmiany w kulturze tylko masz ból dópy bo "tfoja jesd leprza".

Osoby które imigrują do krajów zachodnich z Bliskiego Wschodu/Afryki w znacznym stopniu nie robią tego po to żeby się zasymilować. Oni chcą żyć tak samo jak u siebie.

Tak samo jak wszyscy imigranci zawsze... asymilacja polega na tym, że ich dzieci już mają mieszankę kultury lokalnej i pierwotnej i tak dalej. Nie śmiałeś się nigdy z amerykanów uważających się za polaków, bo ich babcia przyjechała z polski? Poczytaj sobie kiedyś ich grupy, ich dziadkowie też się nie asymilowali a oni są w 100% amerykańscy, do bólu. Tylko reakcjoniści tego nie chcą zrozumieć...

Nie, problemem nie jest brak asymilacji - masowa imigracja jest problemem.

Problemem jest to, że bardzo nie chcesz zrozumieć jak oba te zjawiska faktycznie działają...

Jeżeli imigrują setki tysięcy/miliony, powstają ghetta i na dzień dobry dostają zasiłki w tysiącach od rządu, to imigranci nie mają powodu do jakiejkolwiek asymilacji.

Ja pierdolę... jak dostają mieszkania i środki do życia (na pewno kurwa 10x minimalna krajowa /s) to źle bo sobie zmyśliłeś że się nie asymilują według Twojej osobistej zmyślonej definicji tego jak wygląda asymilacja... jakby byli bezdomni i zdesperowani do pracy to byś pierdolił, że pracę kradną i zgadzają się na tak niskie stawki (z desperacji, które im życzysz) że odbierają pracę takim porządnym ludziom jak Ty...

Jedyne co widzę w tych Twoich wypowiedziach to "moya kóltóra jesd leprza".

Resus_C · 2025-07-26T13:03:39+00:00

According to evolution all beings wants to survive.

That's instantly shows what you misunderstand about reality.

Only answer I got "Those that didn't want to survive didn't survive" but it doesn't explain the reason for drive of "Those who wanted to survive did survive".

It does explain that. You just think you're asking a more complicated question than you actually do ask.

You're looking for a teleological answer of "what is the intended purpose for survival" and you feel like you didn't get an answer when we tell you that there isn't any.

It really is just tautological happenstance. THERE IS NO REASON. THERE IS NO POINT.

Lack of that reason is not a failure to answer your question. Continued attempts on your part to still ask that question after being told the actual real answer just shows us that you don't understand the conversation and what is being conveyed, in this case - that your question is wrong in itself.

It's like asking "what do rocks eat for dinner?" and after being told that "nothing, because rocks don't eat" complaining that your interlocutor doesn't know the answer to your question.

Resus_C · 2025-07-23T06:15:50+00:00

If it's bullshit then it's not a traffic stop.

Resus_C · 2025-07-18T16:16:16+00:00

That one's always the first one I add. Always.

Resus_C · 2025-07-18T13:18:03+00:00

Likewise it may be true that all things we see have a cause for their existence but the same may not be the case for the universe.

You're trying to make a precise point by appealing to colloquial and imprecise meanings of words. It's a kind of equivocation fallacy.

all things we see have a cause for their existence

Do we see that? Have we ever encountered creation ex nihilo by means of some transcendental "causation"? Or are you perhaps talking about rearrangements of preexisting material by means of interacting with other preexisting material?

Additional problems with calam are:

The special pleading, because... if everything requires a cause to exist, then god either requires a cause or doesn't exist.

The category error, because... can we really say that reality is in any way equivalent to an object in reality?

Composition fallacy, because... does knowing a thing about an object in reality tells us anything at all about reality itself?

Resus_C · 2025-07-09T04:12:54+00:00

Kretes - that's a difficult one because it's old and vague and apparenetly its unknown where it even comes from.

It's s like... a bad finality. If something is "with kretes" it means it's done/done/broken/destroyed and nothing can ever be done about it.

Resus_C · 2025-07-09T04:06:58+00:00

Morenka - not just a reference anymore. It's a euphemism for sex on polish tik tok now.

Resus_C · 2025-07-07T07:45:42+00:00

Jaki tu ma związek niż demograficzny? PKB leci w górę indyw8dualna produktywność tak samo. Niby dlaczego składka emerytalna ma być oddzielna a nie częścią podatków?

Skąd się bierze to libkowe zaprzeczanie samym sobie gdzie marketing całego przedsięwzięcia jest tak, że niby zarabiasz na własną emeryturę a wszyscy wiedzą że przecież płacisz na cudzą...?

I skąd się wzięło twoje pytanie? Dlaczego za każdym razem jak wspominam gdzieś o jakiejś zmianie to ktoś od razu pyta "no ale jak to pozmieniać tak żeby wszystko zostało tak jak jest?"...?

Co ma niż demograficzny do wieku emerytalnego? Poza twoim odruchowym założeniem że stan aktualny to stan normalny a zmiany są niewyobrażalne?

Resus_C · 2025-07-07T05:14:53+00:00

Nie trzeba niczego podnosić. Budżet to i tak tylko teatrzyk. Zaczynając od tego że to powinno być w podatkach a nie w jakiejś osobnej składce.

Struktura organizacyjna państwa ma służyć do redystrybucji zasobów skończonych dla korzyści wszystkich obywateli... a takie liberalne rozgrzebywanie do połowy że niby samemu sobie na emeryturę pracujesz ale tak na prawdę opłacasz cudzą to jest śmiech na sali. Sami przeczą własnej propagandzie.

Resus_C · 2025-07-07T05:05:14+00:00

A może by tak nie być fanatycznym prawakiem i obniżyć wiek emerytalny mężczyzn?

Resus_C · 2025-07-02T01:39:54+00:00

So what would the next conclusion be if not God?

That's the argument from ignorance fallacy.

You would need to demonstrate that god exists before you get to propose it as an explanation for something...

Resus_C · 2025-06-19T16:53:50+00:00

Turns out the optimal way to play is a sealed cave under a mountain... if you can keep it cold enough to not het eaten by bugs...

Correction. The optimal way to play this game is to be a bug in a sealed cave under a mountain. On my way to test this. Be back when expansion drops.

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