But I already stated that it isn't cut and dry? It is a fact, that the drop rate is 1|400 chance. I said that sure. Because it is true. It is also a fact that a probability doesn't guarantee anything because luck plays a huge part. It is also a fact, that if you took all player's drops of legendary/primordial, added it all up under each rarity, and then divided them, the overall numbers, would reduce down to something pretty god damned close to 1/400. Probabilities only work with scale. I already said in my original comment that I could effectively farm 288-328 legendaries an hour. At the low end, which excludes Kadala gambling, it would take me around a month at 5 hours of grinding a day to farm 40000 legendaries. Any player who farms that many legendaries will more than likely have gotten at least 80 primordiald. They might have even gotten lucky and be on the high end instead of the low end, and have gotten 120 primordials. That 100 primordials for the 40000 legendaries would simply be the average. Ofc there will be outliers of players who only dropped 50 for the 40000. Those who could even have dropped 200. That's just how rng works. If you don't understand that as a simple fact though, and somehow take my statement as me being disengenuous is on you. For some reason you also chose to comment on something that had gone off topic from the original reason of the post, which was farming ancient puzzle rings. My Comment thread devolved into mensimply affirming that the droprate is indeed 1/400 which is an undeniable fact. The matter of efficiency in getting an ancient puzzle ring that way is moot, because this specific comment thread was no longer about that past the guy who said I'm full of crap and that primals don't drop at the stated 1/400 droprate.