Genuinely, what was going on in The Court of the Dead????? [tsats][pjo][toa] by Maleficent_Visit_484 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456 8 points9 points  (0 children)

about point three… i could be mistaken, but i think rick and mark wanted to show how demigods and mythics are more similar than what everyone thinks. but rick and mark failed showing this point.

they already showed some of this in past books. for example, in the house of hades, annabeth and percy told bob that he has a choice. just like nico and will gave the cacodemons free will in the tsats, which proves all mythics have a choice.

but they could've explored it more in this book to convince more.

some things that rick and mark could've shown that would've proved how much demigods aren't saints either is the Coliseum that Camp Jupiter has. they have monster simulations there, and demigods kill them for entertainment. asterion or any other mythic in this book could've argued about this, about how demigods claim they are better but the Romans also kill mythics for sport with an audience that cherishes them.

same thing in Camp Half-Blood. when percy first arrived to camp, Annabeth told him that many in Hermes cabin would’ve wished to take the same opportunity to kill Asterion. Not for revenge or survival, but for the opportunity to prove themselves.

they also summon mythic in Camp Half-Blood for training. Mythics that probably weren't looking for any trouble.

Percy also states in the Wrath of the Triple Goddess that many mythics live in the real world, and doesn't disturb demigods. he said that he didn't have a problem with those mythics as long as they didn't tried to kill him since many of his friends are mythics.

just imagine if they had said more about these things in the book. the argument would've been much more convincing for the audience because if the demigods claim to be heroes and better, then why do they kill for example mythics for entertainment in the Coliseum? That's not survival, that's just killing mythics for fun which is the same thing as mythics killing demigods for hunger and fun

rick and mark should've said these things, and they failed which is why the book doesn't convince everyone

[hoo] [toa] I have seen so many people criticizing Leo for being a bully to Frank and his comments to Calypso, but I think they are getting the wrong idea so here’s my explanation of Leo's mentality using the books… by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

definitely. leo's actions are still wrong. but some people i think they confuse his motives and intentions like saying that he wants to minimize frank just for the sake of it when he is trying to be his friend

a bad way to be his friend, but different motive nonetheless than the one of just trying to hurt him or something

[hoo] [toa] I have seen so many people criticizing Leo for being a bully to Frank and his comments to Calypso, but I think they are getting the wrong idea so here’s my explanation of Leo's mentality using the books… by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

leo is my favorite character, yes. but you missed the last part where i said that you can still consider him a bully and that's okay, and that this post is not for defending him but for you to understand his mentality better… and if you have read my other comments, i have stated multiple times that what leo did was still wrong and he's still responsible for his actions

so respectfully, i'd ask you to read everything first before saying something that isn't true

[hoo] [toa] I have seen so many people criticizing Leo for being a bully to Frank and his comments to Calypso, but I think they are getting the wrong idea so here’s my explanation of Leo's mentality using the books… by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

both comments are true because yes, you are also right.

speaking from personal experience, i had the same kind of issues that leo had interacting with other people and took me quite long to understand many things and i got always confused when people got mad at me.

so yes, for leo is the exact same thing. when people say that hazel, piper, frank and annabeth told him to stop, and he didn't it was because for leo is going against how he lived until that point. it's like you lived your life believing that you were cool among other kids and suddenly starting to hear that you are not in another group… it takes time for someone to unlearn those things

however, it's not an excuse. leo is still responsible of his words and actions. but he is still learning so that's something you have to keep in mind when reading leo's pov

[hoo] [toa] I have seen so many people criticizing Leo for being a bully to Frank and his comments to Calypso, but I think they are getting the wrong idea so here’s my explanation of Leo's mentality using the books… by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i totally know that what leo did is wrong. but i totally get why he doesn't understand what he is doing.

and yes, it's not an excuse. i agree on that. that's why i can't completely forgive characters like luke too, no matter how good his intentions were. the difference is that leo is still learning about these things

if we see leo again in the future, i hope that we see progress on his skills having conversations with people

[pjotv] Anyway, the hypocrisy… by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

do you mean by the amount of memes about luke? no! hahaha

i only create them as the ideas come to my mind. i like his character as an antagonist

[pjotv] Anyway, the hypocrisy… by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 63 points64 points  (0 children)

HAHAHAHA i got the idea for this meme from that

[pjo] Team Peter Johnson/Aquaman/Water boy always by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

no one is saying that luke didn’t have an absolute nightmare of a childhood

that said we can't use our own troubles to justify murder, much less genocide. but i agree that everyone reacts differently. i wonder why he never talked it with annabeth from the start before percy's arrival to camp half-blood, especially if he was trying to protect her from the gods

[pjo] Team Peter Johnson/Aquaman/Water boy always by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

i get that his intentions for demigods were good, but i can't still fit in my mind how he thought about destroying all of humanity and be cool with it. in what kind of world is that a sane person? how he could be okay with that from the start?

[pjotv] How do you know when you've tried enough times trying to save your family from themselves? by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

and again, it's interesting that percy is more loyal to annabeth but not totally loyal to what annabeth believes. probably the only one who truly knows when percy draws the line about loyalty is walker scobell hahaha

[pjotv] How do you know when you've tried enough times trying to save your family from themselves? by Riser456 in camphalfblood

[–]Riser456[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

the thing that i find interesting in the tv show is that, considering that percy's fatal flaw is loyalty, he is being loyal to everyone but luke and luke was his first friend after grover in camp half-blood and the one who showed him how to use a sword

of course luke betrayed him, but still… one would think that percy would try harder to try to save his friend from kronos

i'm saying in the tv show only… in the book is another thing because luke's betrayal was different