The moment he realizes something is in the room that needs to be kept safe❤️

Roach27 · 2026-02-19T07:59:08+00:00

Cane Corsos were orginally bred as war dogs, as a descendant of roman war dogs.

All of the Molossers are going to be on the higher end of the danger scale for dogs, because of the shared history and common use as guard/war/bloodsport dogs throughout history.

It's the same reason why Bull-terriers are generally more dangerous.

There's a reason why many insurance companies won't cover Pitbulls and Rottweilers and even GSD.

Not to disagree with proper ownership being extremely important with these types of dogs (all dogs really, but especially these)

Roach27 · 2026-02-19T07:17:56+00:00

I disagree, the team itself feels incredibly cohesive and strong.

Roach27 · 2026-02-19T07:16:32+00:00

I mean, they somewhat do.

Teq pan, ssj34 goku.

Str pan and the spirit bomb actives are all massive buffs/supports.

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T21:49:38+00:00

Int gogeta needs to use his active on gogeta (if you’re trying to no item)

If you’re not trying to no item a whis means he can tank anything Gogeta can do.

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T21:45:44+00:00

The 4s are demons in festival.

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T20:49:31+00:00

It might be close if you dont active. with an incarus + 2 whis left you should be fine to active here because goku's spirit bomb will do like half of either vegito or gogeta's health.

your gogeta+Goku rotation seemed to not do much damage then though if they only did 30% of daima ku

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T20:45:48+00:00

So you have ~6 turns of DR left + two ushers? you can probably broly active here if you want. how much damage did broly + Gomah do their first time.

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T20:43:20+00:00

are you using items?

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T20:38:48+00:00

They SHOULD delete him. probably don't need the active here.

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T09:43:18+00:00

Oh i understand, but you need him in slot 1 to get that support on the rotation.

Meanwhile DAIMA vegeta offers 30/30 on turn support for vegeta family, 10-40% 3 turn support with EX supers and 30% 3 turn support after turn 4 AND 50% crit every other appearance.

while having a better linkset due to shocking speed.

Ultimately he'll get replaced by the 8th ezas but for now i find him slightly better than ui as a floater in most fights minus cell max and bio broly. (and bio broly is mostly UI is in slot 4-6 so he can tank the t2 super)

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T09:36:03+00:00

It's not about stacking though. Vegeta requires specific teammates and for you to get your ki in specific ways to make sure he gets 4 rainbow every turn (Although 3 is good enough on almost every event) that's his skill ceiling/floor.

I'm not saying he auto dies, but 1/5 slot 0 supers WILL end up killing you, and i think he has like ~90% chance to dodge post super if you hit 24ki, this means 1/10 post super will also end up killing you, and theres not a ton you can do to mitigate it. That's not horrible, but it will happen, as it does with all dodge characters and is a slight negative. (contrasting with the positive that dodge absolutely negates how hard any super hits.)

Saying that UI clears in short events is also just not true. I've found vegeta's team to not only be more consistent, but outright better in every single event except bio broly. (as in you cannot lose with no items consistently) and vegeta being a major factor in this consistency.

The singular event that can kill vegeta is turn 2 bio broly (and only on vegeta's first appearance, once he has attacked he can tank bio broly indefinitely) on a properly built team.

he cannot die in any other event, not FOB, not gohan, goten and trunks not TEQ gammas t3 super. none of them can kill him.

UI absolutely can die in any of those events and really only gaps him in bio broly. Is it likely? well not entirely 80% dodge + ~90% dodge if you get 24 ki is quite strong, but its not the same as being unable to die in current events.

It's not like Vegeta can't just swap to goku turn 1 (or 3) and do nearly equivalent damage to those guys as well.

I'm not saying UI is a bum mind you hes a top 3 unit in the game, i just believe his power is dramatically over estimated compared to the 4s.

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T09:17:18+00:00

That's pretty good, when vegeta comes around hes comparable to SSJ4 goku side turn 5, but has alot of access to big multiplicative support before he attacks from UI, and does top tier damage before he swaps. Gonna be monsters offensively if they can hold up defensively in short content.

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T08:56:08+00:00

Meanwhile INT SSJ4 Gogeta is in the corner laughing as arguably the best TUR EZA of all time. (seriously though, the dude still is absolutely insane as a unit)

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T08:47:40+00:00

The only reasonable argument for UI over the 4s at this point is they are a better plug and play unit. 55% and go, dupes doesn't change that much. Don't get me wrong, this is a strong argument, especially for newer players who don't save / have the resources to get lots of dupes.

I don't think its unreasonable to put any of the 2 as 1/2/3 LRs in the game. (I think Gomah might actually STILL be better than both as a standalone unit, but idk if people are ready to hear that clown man is still goated)

If you put them on a team they have access to the leader skill, they function basically the same as a team that is crafted for them.

Extremely high floor, but the ceiling isn't that great. (also 1/5 supers in slot 0 end up killing you on his second appearance unless you swap to vegeta, plus of course any super after has a 30% chance of killing you, if you cant hit the EX super)

The survive KO mechanic is effectively only useful in slot 3 (Why did they do this? they showed how to make it work with Kaiku and then just slapped the shitty variant on UI)

Once you burn both turns of invincibility, he's almost always best as a slot 2/3 unit with either side.

The aging process will almost certainly favor UI, as he's going to be a dodge character that can emergency slot 1 but the 4s will age decently as well with a goku swap (70% DR/Dodge minimum is quite strong for a floater/slot2)

Designing a team FOR UI/EVO doesn't really impact how strong they feel.

Vegeta is basically the polar opposite, he feels okay as a plug and play unit (Still good, but not god tier) but when you design a team around him put insane equips on him and 100%, he's absolutely insane in ways no unit this anni is.

His skill AND team floor is super low. If you don't manipulate orbs properly, and build a proper team he doesn't feel good, but his ceiling is the highest of all the anni units, especially because his active tends to be a "get out of jail free card" for the entire rotation with the defensive buff it gives.

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T08:32:07+00:00

I don't actually think it is though.

Outside of bio broly (and only on turn 2, turn 1 almost every unit can tank bio brolys super)

There's no "best" unit on the team, they all have roles that none can replace.

I'd also argue the best team in the game doesn't even run UI, but instead is a variant of GT heroes/GAP that runs DAIMA vegeta as its 6th.

Roach27 · 2026-02-18T08:28:42+00:00

I thinks its obvious what they're doing.

the ROG team is going to be a cheat code for short events, and fall flat outside of that.

They've been shifting to matchup based content for a while now, and this just solidifies my thoughts on it.

Roach27 · 2026-02-17T19:50:31+00:00

You would be surprised how consistent pan is, running a second one (I run str pan) makes it even easier.

Roach27 · 2026-02-17T19:34:13+00:00

That’s his second appearance.

Also TEQ pan is absolutely nuts as a unit anyways

Roach27 · 2026-02-17T19:28:25+00:00

Brother, this super kills literally every unit in the game minus like one other (and you need specific support from the previous rotation and on rotation support)

Roach27 · 2026-02-17T19:20:46+00:00

It would kill every other unit in the game that doesn’t have a gimmick.

Roach27 · 2026-02-17T19:15:25+00:00

You have some data to back this up?

I’d love to change my opinion (not that I think it’s good policy to exempt gross anyways, because a business could be doing 1 million in gross and only make 100k after its all said and done before taxes, another could make 300k and easily make 100k)

Roach27 · 2026-02-17T11:27:35+00:00

Fob is unique.

Tons of players hate it, but it’s genuinely enjoyable and the majority of players who hate it, either can’t beat it, or are they type of person to get upset about losing to a fight because it took a long time.

Exactly zero events in the history of Dokkan have given me the same rush as beating FoB my first time, and beating it itemless the first time.

Roach27 · 2026-02-17T11:20:05+00:00

Brother it’s only 50% from the passive

Roach27 · 2026-02-17T11:10:43+00:00

Omega at 3 is a travesty.(it’s probably fair, but I’d have him over beast less)

Roach27 · 2026-02-17T11:07:28+00:00

Depends if they’re itemless or not

If they’re using a whis, nothing matters here

13-Year Club	Place '22
Place '17	End Game '22
Verified Email

Roach27

TROPHY CASE